How would a Trump trifecta in 2025 be different from Trump with a Democratic house?
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« on: September 17, 2023, 09:31:16 PM »

How would Trump having a trifecta in 2025 be different from Trump having a Democratic house?
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2023, 10:18:18 PM »

There would be no repeat of the 2017 tax cuts.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2023, 11:52:41 PM »

A trifecta might have a very narrow House majority, like the current one, so could still be pretty unproductive and chaotic. The Senate will be a lot easier with confirmations because the majority will be a big one. Republicans might just stick to legislation they can use reconciliation for, so just some tax cuts.

There will be a third impeachment in a second term imo because Trump will do something brazenly criminal again.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2023, 09:46:58 AM »

A trifecta might have a very narrow House majority, like the current one, so could still be pretty unproductive and chaotic. The Senate will be a lot easier with confirmations because the majority will be a big one. Republicans might just stick to legislation they can use reconciliation for, so just some tax cuts.

There will be a third impeachment in a second term imo because Trump will do something brazenly criminal again.

Agreed, though Trump could still make a push to end the filibuster in a trifecta situation to pass more restrictive immigration laws and alike. I think there would be less resistance in the senate for such a change this time around since a lot more senators now owe their seats to a Trump (primary) endorsement. That's a different situation from 2017.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2023, 09:50:03 AM »

Higher probability of him attempting to repeal the 22nd amendment to stay in office forever and making it illegal to be a Democrat if Republicans control both houses
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2023, 10:01:46 AM »

Higher probability of him attempting to repeal the 22nd amendment to stay in office forever and making it illegal to be a Democrat if Republicans control both houses
Not just attempting, but it would pass with a large enough GOP majority.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2023, 02:28:30 PM »

Higher probability of him attempting to repeal the 22nd amendment to stay in office forever and making it illegal to be a Democrat if Republicans control both houses
Not just attempting, but it would pass with a large enough GOP majority.

No it wouldn’t, it needs a two-thirds majority of both the House and the Senate to pass, and must be ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures, which is nearly impossible.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2023, 02:31:58 PM »

Higher probability of him attempting to repeal the 22nd amendment to stay in office forever and making it illegal to be a Democrat if Republicans control both houses
Not just attempting, but it would pass with a large enough GOP majority.

No it wouldn’t, it needs a two-thirds majority of both the House and the Senate to pass, and must be ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures, which is nearly impossible.
Like they wouldn’t just change the rules for congress lol. While state will be more trick that’s what the  army is for
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2023, 02:42:13 PM »

It won't be a Trump Trifecta because Baldwin, Slotkin and Casey are gonna win and Brown , Kunce and ALLRED can win in the S


Users think we are gonna lose 270
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2023, 02:46:03 PM »

Higher probability of him attempting to repeal the 22nd amendment to stay in office forever and making it illegal to be a Democrat if Republicans control both houses


I still don't see why people think they'd even bother repealing the 22nd. Just ignore it, like the Emoluments clauses, the Hatch Act, the Oath of Office, etc. Any legal cases can be either delayed for ever, or routed to a cultist judge who can dismiss them. If anyone objects more directly, he can go the same route he'd planned on going post-January 6th if his coup had succeeded: deploy loyal military units against anyone complaining.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2023, 02:51:01 PM »

Higher probability of him attempting to repeal the 22nd amendment to stay in office forever and making it illegal to be a Democrat if Republicans control both houses
Not just attempting, but it would pass with a large enough GOP majority.

No it wouldn’t, it needs a two-thirds majority of both the House and the Senate to pass, and must be ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures, which is nearly impossible.
Like they wouldn’t just change the rules for congress lol. While state will be more trick that’s what the  army is for

No they can’t. The requirements for amending the constitution are literally written into the constitution.


Higher probability of him attempting to repeal the 22nd amendment to stay in office forever and making it illegal to be a Democrat if Republicans control both houses


I still don't see why people think they'd even bother repealing the 22nd. Just ignore it, like the Emoluments clauses, the Hatch Act, the Oath of Office, etc. Any legal cases can be either delayed for ever, or routed to a cultist judge who can dismiss them. If anyone objects more directly, he can go the same route he'd planned on going post-January 6th if his coup had succeeded: deploy loyal military units against anyone complaining.

Which will get shot down by SCOTUS immediately.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2023, 05:40:53 PM »
« Edited: September 18, 2023, 08:22:52 PM by Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin »

I still don't see why people think they'd even bother repealing the 22nd. Just ignore it, like the Emoluments clauses, the Hatch Act, the Oath of Office, etc. Any legal cases can be either delayed for ever, or routed to a cultist judge who can dismiss them. If anyone objects more directly, he can go the same route he'd planned on going post-January 6th if his coup had succeeded: deploy loyal military units against anyone complaining.

Which will get shot down by SCOTUS immediately.

I'm skeptical, but even if it was, so what? Congress isn't going to impeach Trump over ignoring the Supreme Court. There are no formal enforcement mechanisms to bring a President-Tyrant to heel when Congress betrays the United States with him and rejects their own oaths.

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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2023, 01:44:44 AM »

Tax cuts
Investigations
Prevent the use of reconciliation from undoing some of Biden’s climate, healthcare, infrastructure, and other legislative accomplishments.

As well as a a general deterrent to some weird one-off legislative ideas that might actually pass. As well as a deterrent to a future January 6th during transition of power.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2023, 04:16:19 AM »

Biden only has to get 270 not 303 a D we have that, there won't be any R TRIFECTA
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