Canada Vs USA

[English]

If Canada had the same political parties as the US how would it vote (and vice versa)?

BC- Dem
Alb- GOP
Sas- Dem
Man- Dem
Ont- Dem
Que- (??)
YT- Dem
NWT- Dem
Nun- Dem
New- Dem
NS- Dem
NB- Dem
PEI- Dem

Landslide for the Dems!

WA- Lib
OR- Lib
CA- Lib
ID- CPC
MT- CPC
AZ- CPC
NV- Lib
UT- CPC
NM- Lib
WY- CPC
CO- CPC
ND- NDP
SD- CPC
IA- NDP
MN- Lib
NE- CPC
KS- CPC
OK- CPC
TX- CPC
WI- Lib
IL- Lib
MO- CPC
AR- Lib
LA- CPC
MI- Lib
IN- CPC
KY- CPC
TN- CPC
MS- CPC
AL- CPC
GE- CPC
FL- CPC
SC- CPC
NC- CPC
VA- CPC
WV- NDP
PA- Lib
OH- Lib
MD- Lib
DE- Lib
NJ- Lib
NY- Lib
VT- NDP
NH- CPC
ME- Lib
MA- Lib
RI- Lib
CT- Lib
HI- Lib
AK- CPC

[Filuwaúrdjan]

If Canada had the same political parties as the US how would it vote (and vice versa)?

BC- Dem
Alb- GOP
Sas- Dem
Man- Dem
Ont- Dem
Que- (??)
YT- Dem
NWT- Dem
Nun- Dem
New- Dem
NS- Dem
NB- Dem
PEI- Dem

Landslide for the Dems!

WA- Lib
OR- Lib
CA- Lib
ID- CPC
MT- CPC
AZ- CPC
NV- Lib
UT- CPC
NM- Lib
WY- CPC
CO- CPC
ND- NDP
SD- CPC
IA- NDP
MN- Lib
NE- CPC
KS- CPC
OK- CPC
TX- CPC
WI- Lib
IL- Lib
MO- CPC
AR- Lib
LA- CPC
MI- Lib
IN- CPC
KY- CPC
TN- CPC
MS- CPC
AL- CPC
GE- CPC
FL- CPC
SC- CPC
NC- CPC
VA- CPC
WV- NDP
PA- Lib
OH- Lib
MD- Lib
DE- Lib
NJ- Lib
NY- Lib
VT- NDP
NH- CPC
ME- Lib
MA- Lib
RI- Lib
CT- Lib
HI- Lib
AK- CPC

Interesting idea... I'll have a close look at it later. My initial guess would be that the Dippers would do well in MN, ND (locally at least. Nationally it'd be about personalities), MI, WV, Western PA, probably Rhode Island... more soon.
Oh and Louisiana would be ultra-Grit. Remember the Cajun's...

[English]

Yes, I reckon ND and IA would vote similar to Saskatchewan, NDP. All those farmers and blue collar workers. They might do well in VT too, which has a strong Independent streak.

I think seriously speaking the only province in Canada the GOP could and indeed would win is Alberta. They might do fairly well in BC, Sask and Manitoba but not in the face of a moderate Democrat.

[Siege40]

Very interesting. I think that Quebec would still have the Bloc though. Seperatists.... But if you wanted to eliminate that it would go largely Dem. They're pretty Liberal out there.

Siege

[© tweed]

Quebec would vote Dem and would be very anti-gay marraige amendment.  They could form their own party, like a Goerge Wallace party.

[English]

I love Quebec, I'd like to live there.

[cwelsch]

Vermont doesn't have an independent streak, it has a libertarian streak and a socialist streak that can only manifest -especially when thrown together- as an independent streak.  This is distinct from say, certain Southern demographics which have regionalist, nationalist and authoritarian tendencies that manifest as independent streaks.  Vermont has the weakest gun control laws in the entire country, and most of the Western world.

Vermont would likely be an NDP-CPC split with the Ben and Jerry's folks going NDP and the Ethan Allen types going CPC for lack of any decent options, or maybe going minor party (which Vermont has a tendency to do, both in state legislature and with Jeffords and Sanders).


Anyway, ultimately a two-party system would re-emerge because we're Presidential and not Parliamentary.  Only one group can win the office so you maximize your chances by pooling into the biggest possible groups - ending with two.  In Canada the Libs and NDP can come together to form a government.  There'd have to be same big change like fusion voting or IRV to make it viable in the long term.


ND - Last two times it went Democrat for President were '64 and '36, two major landslides.  It voted against FDR twice, that's somewhat exceptional.  Sure, the Scandinavians inhabit the area and fuss up the politics, but that's mostly MN and WI.  WI would be very likely to go NDP and so would MN.


I struggle within this system because ultimately the Canadian parties don't account for the big gap in ideologies between Westerners and Southerners, who are actually pretty different despite voting for the same candidates of late.  They'd be stuck in a CPC that probably better fits the Midwestern Republicans while keeping space open for northeastern GOPers (like the US version of Red Tories).