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« on: April 18, 2007, 03:45:07 PM »

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court's conservative majority upheld a nationwide ban Wednesday on a controversial abortion procedure in a decision that sets the stage for additional restrictions on a woman's right to choose.
 
For the first time since the court established a woman's right to an abortion in 1973, the justices said the Constitution permits a nationwide prohibition on a specific abortion method. The court's liberal justices, in dissent, said the ruling chips away at abortion rights.

The 5-4 decision written by Justice        Anthony Kennedy said the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act that Congress passed and        President Bush signed into law in 2003 does not violate a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.

The law is constitutional despite not containing an exception that would allow the procedure if needed to preserve a woman's health, Kennedy said. "The law need not give abortion doctors unfettered choice in the course of their medical practice," he wrote in the majority opinion.

Doctors who violate the law face up to two years in federal prison. The law has never taken effect, pending the outcome of the legal fight.

Kennedy's opinion, joined by Bush's two appointees, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice        Samuel Alito, was a long-awaited resounding win that abortion opponents expected from the more conservative bench.

In dissent, Justice        Ruth Bader Ginsburg said the ruling "cannot be understood as anything other than an effort to chip away at a right declared again and again by this court."

The administration defended the law as drawing a bright line between abortion and infanticide.

Reacting to the ruling, Bush said that it affirms the progress his administration has made to defend the "sanctity of life."

"I am pleased that the Supreme Court has upheld a law that prohibits the abhorrent procedure of partial birth abortion," he said. "Today's decision affirms that the Constitution does not stand in the way of the people's representatives enacting laws reflecting the compassion and humanity of America."

Justices        Clarence Thomas and        Antonin Scalia also were in the majority.

It was the first time the court banned a specific procedure in a case over how — not whether — to perform an abortion.

Abortion rights groups as well as the leading association of obstetricians and gynecologists have said the procedure sometimes is the safest for a woman. They also said that such a ruling could threaten most abortions after 12 weeks of pregnancy, although Kennedy said alternate, more widely used procedures remain legal.

The outcome is likely to spur efforts at the state level to place more restrictions on abortions.

"I applaud the Court for its ruling today, and my hope is that it sets the stage for further progress in the fight to ensure our nation's laws respect the sanctity of unborn human life," said Rep. John Boehner (news, bio, voting record) of Ohio, Republican leader in the House of Representatives.

Jay Sekulow, a prominent abortion opponent who is chief counsel for the conservative American Center for Law and Justice, said, "This is the most monumental win on the abortion issue that we have ever had."

Said Eve Gartner of the        Planned Parenthood Federation of America: "This ruling flies in the face of 30 years of Supreme Court precedent and the best interest of women's health and safety. ... This ruling tells women that politicians, not doctors, will make their health care decisions for them." She had argued that point before the justices.

More than 1 million abortions are performed in the United States each year, according to recent statistics. Nearly 90 percent of those occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, and are not affected by Wednesday's ruling. The Guttmacher Institute says 2,200 dilation and extraction procedures — the medical term most often used by doctors — were performed in 2000, the latest figures available.

Six federal courts have said the law that was in focus Wednesday is an impermissible restriction on a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.

"Today's decision is alarming," Ginsburg wrote in dissent for the court's liberal bloc. She said the ruling "refuses to take ... seriously" previous Supreme Court decisions on abortion.

Ginsburg said the latest decision "tolerates, indeed applauds, federal intervention to ban nationwide a procedure found necessary and proper in certain cases by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists."

Ginsburg said that for the first time since the court established a woman's right to an abortion in 1973, "the court blesses a prohibition with no exception safeguarding a woman's health."

She was joined by Justices        Stephen Breyer,        David Souter and        John Paul Stevens.

The procedure at issue involves partially removing the fetus intact from a woman's uterus, then crushing or cutting its skull to complete the abortion.

Abortion opponents say the law will not reduce the number of abortions performed because an alternate method — dismembering the fetus in the uterus — is available and, indeed, much more common.

In 2000, the court with key differences in its membership struck down a state ban on partial-birth abortions. Writing for a 5-4 majority at that time, Justice Breyer said the law imposed an undue burden on a woman's right to make an abortion decision in part because it lacked a health exception.

The Republican-controlled Congress responded in 2003 by passing a federal law that asserted the procedure is gruesome, inhumane and never medically necessary to preserve a woman's health. That statement was designed to overcome the health exception to restrictions that the court has demanded in abortion cases.

But federal judges in California, Nebraska and New York said the law was unconstitutional, and three appellate courts agreed. The Supreme Court accepted appeals from California and Nebraska, setting up Wednesday's ruling.

Kennedy's dissent in 2000 was so strong that few court watchers expected him to take a different view of the current case.

Kennedy acknowledged continuing disagreement about the procedure within the medical community. In the past, courts have cited that uncertainty as a reason to allow the disputed procedure.

"The medical uncertainty over whether the Act's prohibition creates significant health risks provides a sufficient basis to conclude ... that the Act does not impose an undue burden," Kennedy said Wednesday.

While the court upheld the law against a broad attack on its constitutionality, Kennedy said the court could entertain a challenge in which a doctor found it necessary to perform the banned procedure on a patient suffering certain medical complications.

The law allows the procedure to be performed when a woman's life is in jeopardy.

The cases are Gonzales v. Carhart, 05-380, and Gonzales v. Planned Parenthood, 05-1382.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070418/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_abortion

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What do you guys think? Of course, I believe that the proponents of this ban are putting politics above women's health.

The National Organization for Women calls the decision "Most Political Since Bush v. Gore".
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2007, 04:10:38 PM »


I was reading some of the remarks from various politicians and groups (both for and against the ruling), and one of the common remarks from those against the rulings is that this will endanger the health of the woman.  The last time I checked, partial-birth abortions were less common than internal dismemberment (which is the preferred and safer procedure).  Their follow-up argument is that it removes the mothers choice for an abortion, which isn't really correct.  It removes a procedure which a doctor may use, but it doesn't limit the ability for the mother to have an abortion at that stage in her pregnancy.  Instead of having the baby partially born, crushing the skull, and then extracting the rest of the child, the child will be dismembered internally and removed in smaller pieces.  I'm not sure if their remarks are more of a talking point or from lack of knowledge on the multiple forms of abortions.  In any case, that's my two-cents worth of what the pols have said so far.
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2007, 05:48:14 PM »

My main issue with the Partial Birth Abortion Ban is that it doesn't have any exception for the woman's health involved and makes partial birth abortion completely illegal, which could set a ban precedent if later third trimester, second trimester, or even abolition of abortion laws are brought before the court.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2007, 06:52:00 PM »

Well, as long as you can still brutally tear apart the precious gift of life while it's still in the uterus, I don't see the problem.

Banning just one type of abortion procedure makes so much sense!

Anyway, it's fairly clear that the Supreme Court hates women.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2007, 07:47:11 PM »

The religious person in me is fairly glad with the result...at the same time I share Colin's concerns and one of my own...

Much of abortion jurisprudence is based upon "right to privacy" rulings...I'm concerned that steps to ban abortion (or restrict it) may lead to a dimunition of this right.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2007, 09:31:38 PM »

Applause for Justice Kennedy.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2007, 01:36:24 AM »


^^
I agree with this ruling, though I think the ban is unconstitutional on enumerated power grounds.
That said, I hope Kennedy takes this conservative stride to Parker v DC.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007, 02:36:47 AM »

The constitution lies in tatters!
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 09:24:26 AM »

The constitution lies in tatters!

Interesting that "strict constructionist" means a federal abortion ban.  I mean, I thought these yokels wanted the issue to be returned to the states or something like that.
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 09:29:39 AM »

The constitution lies in tatters!

Interesting that "strict constructionist" means a federal abortion ban.  I mean, I thought these yokels wanted the issue to be returned to the states or something like that.

Much like different forms of the death penalty have been ruled out over the ages without an impact to the Constitution, this ruling doesn't either.  All the ruling says is this particular form of abortion has not been shown to be medically necessary nor superior in preserving the health of a mother compared to the other forms of abortion which can be conducted at this stage in the pregnancy.  And since this method of abortion is the lesser practiced form, it doesn't make a large impact in the medical practice.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 09:32:31 AM »

Is this the place to point out that, as far as the DoH is aware, a "partial-birth abortion" has never taken place in the U.K?
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 09:42:05 AM »

All the ruling says is this particular form of abortion has not been shown to be medically necessary nor superior in preserving the health of a mother compared to the other forms of abortion which can be conducted at this stage in the pregnancy.  And since this method of abortion is the lesser practiced form, it doesn't make a large impact in the medical practice.

Well, perhaps I'm just nosing around in places I shouldn't, but it seems to me that by saying that a ban on D&X doesn't violate a woman's 'constitutional right to choose an abortion,' Thomas and Scalia are thus acknowledging such a right exists to begin with, something which I think they would dispute if given the chance.

However, if the strict constructionists are willing to put that aside to uphold this D&X ban, they have to resort to as you say making some sort of medical determination that the procedure would never be necessary.  There are a couple problems with this, though.  The bill in question contains a provision allowing the D&X procedure to be performed if the life of the pregnant woman is at risk.  If D&X is never medically necessary, why is that provision in place?  The provision seems to imply that there would be circumstances in which D&X would potentially be a safer method after all.  If that is the case, why is this limited to protecting the life of the mother, when other abortion procedures aren't given the same scrutiny?

This idea that this is OK because other procedures (i.e. D&E) are still legal sets a dangerous precedent.  The doctor should be able to make the determination as to what procedure is the safest for the woman.  Whimsically deciding that one kind of abortion is fine but another isn't because a woman can still get the other kind does in fact endanger the woman's health if the banned procedure is safer.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2007, 10:24:37 AM »


Not being a doctor, I cannot come up with a case where a partial birth abortion would be more beneficial to a mother than dismembering the child internally and removing the parts.  The latter requires less dilation on the mothers part and likely less pressure on the diaphragm.  This is probably part of the reason why the proponents lost their case since they couldn't prove the medical superiority of the procedure.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2007, 10:47:45 AM »

I am also torn on this issue.  My gut tells me that this ban is a good thing, but I support a woman's right to choose.

I agree with the ban on the grounds that it's not superior to other methods.  Abortion is a rough spot for me.  We need to work harder at preventing these pregnancies in the first place and offering alternatives to women.  Safe, legal, and rare.. Dodd said it best.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2007, 02:19:19 PM »

Is this the place to point out that, as far as the DoH is aware, a "partial-birth abortion" has never taken place in the U.K?

How do you know? Partial-birth abortion is not a medical term.
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2007, 05:02:35 PM »

My main issue with the Partial Birth Abortion Ban is that it doesn't have any exception for the woman's health involved and makes partial birth abortion completely illegal, which could set a ban precedent if later third trimester, second trimester, or even abolition of abortion laws are brought before the court.

Actually it does, however instead of the fuzzy "health of the mother" exception that effectively allows all abortions by allowing a nebulous claim of mental anguish as being sufficient, it uses a narrower "life of the mother" exception, which to my mind is about the only reason a third trimester abortion should ever be allowed.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2007, 06:11:16 PM »

Could not have asked for a better birthday gift Smiley (BTW, now I'm a hard-right 16 year old)
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2007, 09:12:41 PM »

I would agree with it, as Colin said, if there was a life/health exception.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2007, 10:41:38 PM »

it uses a narrower "life of the mother" exception, which to my mind is about the only reason a third trimester abortion should ever be allowed.

D&X can take place in the second trimester.
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2007, 04:35:46 AM »

Is this the place to point out that, as far as the DoH is aware, a "partial-birth abortion" has never taken place in the U.K?

How do you know? Partial-birth abortion is not a medical term.

A question was asked in Parliament (House of Lords IIRC) around the time this legislation was passed. And yes, I know that; that's why I used "these".
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2007, 05:50:04 AM »

I will bear Al out on this:

Here is the Lords Q&A - of course, the lack of a formal definition of partial birth abortion in the medical community means that the Minister may have been understood the question different to questioner. It would however appear that from his answer it would be legal to perform D&X in the UK.

I took the liberty of reading the RCOG clinical guidance (pdf warning; 1Mb) however. See Pg 60.

It would appear that D&E is the preferred method of abortion in later term cases in the UK. The guidance also notes that it does not know of any use of D&X in the UK (it recommends against its use), though the text does leave some leeway which means it could be taking place.
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2007, 06:56:47 AM »
« Edited: April 20, 2007, 09:03:37 AM by Sibboleth »

My memory still works fairly well then Smiley

The legal status of D&X (and IIRC several other abortion methods) is interesting in that while it's not technically illegal, it's basically banned to all (or at least most) intents and purposes as a result of RCOG disapproval. Not that many (probably verging on any) doctors would have any interest in doing it even if this wasn't the case (or so I'd hope anyway).

Edit: the reason why I brought this up is to make the point that this particular procedure is not medically necessary. One thing I can't understand is why any doctor would be happy to perform it.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2007, 09:50:55 PM »

I would agree with it, as Colin said, if there was a life/health exception.

It's hardly ever recommended by doctors in situations where the mother's life or health is not at risk.
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2007, 09:52:13 PM »

I would agree with it, as Colin said, if there was a life/health exception.

It's hardly ever recommended by doctors in situations where the mother's life or health is not at risk.

And where do you stand on banning it in those limited situations?
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2007, 05:41:38 AM »

Here's an article written by a woman who had a "partial-birth" abortion.
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