is Tucker Carlson secretly a 9/11 truther

[freepcrusher]

i think out of any of the fox news guys - he's the one most likely to be.

[Blow by blow, the passion dies]

There's a high chance, but given his early support for the Iraq War, that would be unlikely

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

It would surprise me given that he came up in the Bush era and was a strident defender of the war on terror, then again he is besties with Alex Jones now and has taken a noticeably more conspiratorial tone on his show. I'm not sure. I don't think Tucker actually believes 90% of what he says regardless.

[Mr. Smith]

Only if he's paid to be, otherwise he remains not, or he becomes an open 9/11 Truther.

[Suburbia]

It would surprise me given that he came up in the Bush era and was a strident defender of the war on terror, then again he is besties with Alex Jones now and has taken a noticeably more conspiratorial tone on his show. I'm not sure. I don't think Tucker actually believes 90% of what he says regardless.

This.

So, you don't believe he feels the things he says? Who then, is the most principled right wing TV commentator out there who actually believes the stuff they say?

[Meclazine for Israel]

No.

Tucker is the average man's voice to everything stupid in the world.

He laughs at anything that is new and unnecessary to the average American. Things like the woke agenda, the BLM money going missing, criminals out free committing more crime.

Just basic stupid stuff. He then voices an argument from a personal level, be it correct or not, that challenges these situations.

[Middle-aged Europe]

There's a high chance, but given his early support for the Iraq War, that would be unlikely

Well, Tucker could believe that the U.S. government was behind 9/11 and support it as a false-flag operation to create a pretext justifying the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

[Mr. Smith]

No.

Tucker is the average man's voice to everything stupid in the world.

He laughs at anything that is new and unnecessary to the average American. Things like the woke agenda, the BLM money going missing, criminals out free committing more crime.

Just basic stupid stuff. He then voices an argument from a personal level, be it correct or not, that challenges these situations.

No one cares about the M&M ladies that much, literally no one.

[freepcrusher]

in case you guys are wondering - I myself am a truther (look up PNAC, or lucky larry, it's all right there). I feel if Tucker could come out of that closet, it might allow for more people to do so. If it's ok to be a JFK truther (most americans never agreed with warren commission findings) how come we can't do the same on 9/11?

[Suburbia]

in case you guys are wondering - I myself am a truther (look up PNAC, or lucky larry, it's all right there). I feel if Tucker could come out of that closet, it might allow for more people to do so. If it's ok to be a JFK truther (most americans never agreed with warren commission findings) how come we can't do the same on 9/11?

You really think Bush and Cheney would allow such carnage like that on 9/11? Come on.

[Alben Barkley]

If he's talking about "Deep State" conspiracies to assassinate Kennedy and oust Nixon (and possibly even Biden, bizarrely), then I would be surprised if he remains just a "secret" truther for much longer.

[Alben Barkley]

in case you guys are wondering - I myself am a truther (look up PNAC, or lucky larry, it's all right there). I feel if Tucker could come out of that closet, it might allow for more people to do so. If it's ok to be a JFK truther (most americans never agreed with warren commission findings) how come we can't do the same on 9/11?

Schizophrenia is a devastating and difficult disorder, but there is treatment. Please consult a mental health professional immediately.

I'm not joking, by the way. Your posts have consistently shown a strong paranoid schizophrenic pattern and this is just the icing on the cake. You are not well. You need help. Please seek it ASAP.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

in case you guys are wondering - I myself am a truther (look up PNAC, or lucky larry, it's all right there). I feel if Tucker could come out of that closet, it might allow for more people to do so. If it's ok to be a JFK truther (most americans never agreed with warren commission findings) how come we can't do the same on 9/11?

If you're being serious here, no one was wondering.

[Benjamin Frank]

I don't know what's the big deal of being a 9/11 truther. I'm not personally, but I find it odd people making a big deal out of that when there are millions of people (especially in America) who are global warming deniers, Covid deniers, Trump lost the election deniers and 'CRT' fearmongers including people on this board, including some seemingly well respected people on this board. All of those conspiracy theories are much more important and much more harmful than 9/11 conspiracy theories.

[SWE]

He isn't "secretly" anything because he doesn't have beliefs, he just says what he's paid to

[freepcrusher]

in case you guys are wondering - I myself am a truther (look up PNAC, or lucky larry, it's all right there). I feel if Tucker could come out of that closet, it might allow for more people to do so. If it's ok to be a JFK truther (most americans never agreed with warren commission findings) how come we can't do the same on 9/11?

You really think Bush and Cheney would allow such carnage like that on 9/11? Come on.

I don't think they knew but I think a lot of people in the intelligence and foreign policy communities knew about it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I don't know what's the big deal of being a 9/11 truther. I'm not personally, but I find it odd people making a big deal out of that when there are millions of people (especially in America) who are global warming deniers, Covid deniers, Trump lost the election deniers and 'CRT' fearmongers including people on this board, including some seemingly well respected people on this board. All of those conspiracy theories are much more important and much more harmful than 9/11 conspiracy theories.

People select positions on the basis of what their identity group dictates, then fit in "facts" and misinformation as necessary to justify these positions.

To the extent that any exertions of this dynamic, or facilitating of such lends people to be predisposed towards conspiracy and misinformation, then all of them are problematic to some extent.

Republicans don't have a good answer on climate that doesn't in some way violate a philosophical principle, irritate a special interest group, or both. Rather than acknowledge this, it is just easier to deny the problem exists, then admitting to not having any answers.

Trump's desire to maintain control and inability to admit to losing, led to the stolen election conspiracy, both to preserve his own ego as well as control over the party.

Covid dictated a lot of people be taken out of their comfort zones, in many different ways, as well as causing a lot of financial damage. There are multiple avenues with which to embrace conspiracy as a means to deny the necessity of the disruption or discomfort. Vaccines, lockdowns, business closures, etc etc.

Libertarians tend to be anti-war because they hate government. Many on the left are anti-war because they are pacifists. In some cases, the more devout of both groups are predisposed towards conspiracy because the incentive is disprove that any given war was "necessary" or "unavoidable" and there is no better way than a conspiracy theory about why it was started. Pearl Harbor and 911 fall into this category.

There are many different conspiracy theories surrounding JFK, all with different origins based on political and tribal dispositions. The far right tended to blame the commies, a number of liberals, libertarians and leftists tended to blame it on the MIC, and still others tended to blame it on the mafia.

Now of course you have motivations in some cases that run contrary to such neat groupings, as you do with everything.

As for CRT, I would not lump that in here. Sure, the issue is being abused by small brain legislatures seeking to appease the mobs whipped up by media sh@$t stirrers, leading to any number of problems, overreach etc. On the other hand, there is a great deal of historical revisionism, biased framing and similar such damage occurring in the name of critical theory. You can acknowledged a problem and push back against it, while at the same time criticizing many of the bone headed attempts to intercede with state force to address such (as I have). Even if one is to argue that the problem is exaggerated, mere exaggeration and incompetent response, is not the same as these other cases where a situation is being denied for the sake of preserving someone's comfort zone ideological, tribal, material or otherwise.

[Benjamin Frank]

I don't know what's the big deal of being a 9/11 truther. I'm not personally, but I find it odd people making a big deal out of that when there are millions of people (especially in America) who are global warming deniers, Covid deniers, Trump lost the election deniers and 'CRT' fearmongers including people on this board, including some seemingly well respected people on this board. All of those conspiracy theories are much more important and much more harmful than 9/11 conspiracy theories.

People select positions on the basis of what their identity group dictates, then fit in "facts" and misinformation as necessary to justify these positions.

To the extent that any exertions of this dynamic, or facilitating of such lends people to be predisposed towards conspiracy and misinformation, then all of them are problematic to some extent.

Republicans don't have a good answer on climate that doesn't in some way violate a philosophical principle, irritate a special interest group, or both. Rather than acknowledge this, it is just easier to deny the problem exists, then admitting to not having any answers.

Trump's desire to maintain control and inability to admit to losing, led to the stolen election conspiracy, both to preserve his own ego as well as control over the party.

Covid dictated a lot of people be taken out of their comfort zones, in many different ways, as well as causing a lot of financial damage. There are multiple avenues with which to embrace conspiracy as a means to deny the necessity of the disruption or discomfort. Vaccines, lockdowns, business closures, etc etc.

Libertarians tend to be anti-war because they hate government. Many on the left are anti-war because they are pacifists. In some cases, the more devout of both groups are predisposed towards conspiracy because the incentive is disprove that any given war was "necessary" or "unavoidable" and there is no better way than a conspiracy theory about why it was started. Pearl Harbor and 911 fall into this category.

There are many different conspiracy theories surrounding JFK, all with different origins based on political and tribal dispositions. The far right tended to blame the commies, a number of liberals, libertarians and leftists tended to blame it on the MIC, and still others tended to blame it on the mafia.

Now of course you have motivations in some cases that run contrary to such neat groupings, as you do with everything.

As for CRT, I would not lump that in here. Sure, the issue is being abused by small brain legislatures seeking to appease the mobs whipped up by media sh@$t stirrers, leading to any number of problems, overreach etc. On the other hand, there is a great deal of historical revisionism, biased framing and similar such damage occurring in the name of critical theory. You can acknowledged a problem and push back against it, while at the same time criticizing many of the bone headed attempts to intercede with state force to address such (as I have). Even if one is to argue that the problem is exaggerated, mere exaggeration and incompetent response, is not the same as these other cases where a situation is being denied for the sake of preserving someone's comfort zone ideological, tribal, material or otherwise.

I disagree on CRT, especially since there are tie ins between fearmongering over CRT and the Great Replacement Theory conspiracy.

CRT is probably the biggest of people having their comfort zones challenged because it ties in directly with notions of privilege. I think the evidence of the reality of institutional and implicit (or explicit) bias is overwhelming, though certainly there is also a lot of evidence that its as much to do with class bias (poor bashing) as bias against minorities or women.

[freepcrusher]

he mentions 9/11 and the government lying to us on his new show. Maybe he'll finally mainstream the position.