What about my views on abortion that is it not Pro Life enough ?

[jojoju1998]

I can literally reference 20 different catholic documents, scriptures, that talk about a seamless garment, protecting ALL life, from conception to natural death.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

I can literally reference 20 different catholic documents, scriptures, that talk about a seamless garment, protecting ALL life, from conception to natural death.

It's not the beliefs you profess; it's the primacy you attach to them.

You will unreservedly criticize someone like me for being pro-life, but opposed to a wide range of social welfare spending that you claim affirms life at all stages.  (Actually, I am FOR many of those proposals, but that's beside the point here.)  Yet you never rebuke advocates of social welfare spending by people who are OK with abortion unreservedly.  This is a consistent pattern and it convinces me that, if you were a legislator, you would choose to compromise on the abortion issue to get the social spending, but you would be unyielding in advocacy for your favorite social programs to where.

I believe that you attach far more importance to the enactment of social programs as opposed to the ceasing of abortion.  One believing an unborn child is a fully human life ought to lead one to support the advocacy of abortion opponents if that's what you truly believe. 

I should say that I'm not saying that you are some kind of HP.  But I don't think you see how soft your adovcacy is for the unborn vs. your advocacy for those who push social programs.

[Hermit For Peace]

I can literally reference 20 different catholic documents, scriptures, that talk about a seamless garment, protecting ALL life, from conception to natural death.

Society is not up there where you are yet. It's okay for there to be more guns in society than people, but we're not quite there when it comes to human life and the right to life. You want a tamer society and so do most people, but a revolution is what you are advocating and I don't think it's going to happen for a long time. We are still living in the barbaric age where guns and money are gods.

[jojoju1998]

I can literally reference 20 different catholic documents, scriptures, that talk about a seamless garment, protecting ALL life, from conception to natural death.

It's not the beliefs you profess; it's the primacy you attach to them.

You will unreservedly criticize someone like me for being pro-life, but opposed to a wide range of social welfare spending that you claim affirms life at all stages.  (Actually, I am FOR many of those proposals, but that's beside the point here.)  Yet you never rebuke advocates of social welfare spending by people who are OK with abortion unreservedly.  This is a consistent pattern and it convinces me that, if you were a legislator, you would choose to compromise on the abortion issue to get the social spending, but you would be unyielding in advocacy for your favorite social programs to where.

I believe that you attach far more importance to the enactment of social programs as opposed to the ceasing of abortion.  One believing an unborn child is a fully human life ought to lead one to support the advocacy of abortion opponents if that's what you truly believe. 

I should say that I'm not saying that you are some kind of HP.  But I don't think you see how soft your adovcacy is for the unborn vs. your advocacy for those who push social programs.

You’re not Pro Life. You’re anti abortion. To be pro life means to protect all life, where it is most vulnerable, and to promote policies that will sustain that consistent ethic.


Life is precious. And I believe in our hyper individualistic me culture, it is being forgotten by all sides.

The hyper consumerist, choice only culture breeds no choice at all. But only hyper individualism. Which is a cancer in my view.


My Body my Choice.

Or my Guns my choice.





Or my Business my choice.


Quite frankly, I’m starting to question the American republic as a whole. It breeds in my view the type of Hyper individualism that Most Christian leaders have used to reject.  

There’s a reason why the French Revolution was so destabilizing.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I can literally reference 20 different catholic documents, scriptures, that talk about a seamless garment, protecting ALL life, from conception to natural death.

It's not the beliefs you profess; it's the primacy you attach to them.

You will unreservedly criticize someone like me for being pro-life, but opposed to a wide range of social welfare spending that you claim affirms life at all stages.  (Actually, I am FOR many of those proposals, but that's beside the point here.)  Yet you never rebuke advocates of social welfare spending by people who are OK with abortion unreservedly.  This is a consistent pattern and it convinces me that, if you were a legislator, you would choose to compromise on the abortion issue to get the social spending, but you would be unyielding in advocacy for your favorite social programs to where.

I believe that you attach far more importance to the enactment of social programs as opposed to the ceasing of abortion.  One believing an unborn child is a fully human life ought to lead one to support the advocacy of abortion opponents if that's what you truly believe. 

I should say that I'm not saying that you are some kind of HP.  But I don't think you see how soft your adovcacy is for the unborn vs. your advocacy for those who push social programs.

You’re not Pro Life. You’re anti abortion. To be pro life means to protect all life, where it is most vulnerable, and to promote policies that will sustain that consistent ethic.


Life is precious. And I believe in our hyper individualistic me culture, it is being forgotten by all sides.

The hyper consumerist, choice only culture breeds no choice at all. But only hyper individualism. Which is a cancer in my view.


My Body my Choice.

Or my Guns my choice.





Or my Business my choice.


Quite frankly, I’m starting to question the American republic as a whole. It breeds in my view the type of Hyper individualism that Most Christian leaders have used to reject. 

There’s a reason why the French Revolution was so destabilizing.

Joju , something you fail to understand is American culture has always been both extremely individualistic as well as religious which is why you can’t make comparisons with other societies as most other societies are one or the other while the US has always been both .

[Ferguson97]

Joju , something you fail to understand is American culture has always been both extremely individualistic as well as religious which is why you can’t make comparisons with other societies as most other societies are one or the other while the US has always been both .

Honestly, that's the worst of both worlds. The one good thing about religion is that it creates a sense of community. Mix that in with individualism, and there's no benefit.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I can literally reference 20 different catholic documents, scriptures, that talk about a seamless garment, protecting ALL life, from conception to natural death.

It's not the beliefs you profess; it's the primacy you attach to them.

You will unreservedly criticize someone like me for being pro-life, but opposed to a wide range of social welfare spending that you claim affirms life at all stages.  (Actually, I am FOR many of those proposals, but that's beside the point here.)  Yet you never rebuke advocates of social welfare spending by people who are OK with abortion unreservedly.  This is a consistent pattern and it convinces me that, if you were a legislator, you would choose to compromise on the abortion issue to get the social spending, but you would be unyielding in advocacy for your favorite social programs to where.

I believe that you attach far more importance to the enactment of social programs as opposed to the ceasing of abortion.  One believing an unborn child is a fully human life ought to lead one to support the advocacy of abortion opponents if that's what you truly believe. 

I should say that I'm not saying that you are some kind of HP.  But I don't think you see how soft your adovcacy is for the unborn vs. your advocacy for those who push social programs.

You’re not Pro Life. You’re anti abortion. To be pro life means to protect all life, where it is most vulnerable, and to promote policies that will sustain that consistent ethic.


Life is precious. And I believe in our hyper individualistic me culture, it is being forgotten by all sides.

The hyper consumerist, choice only culture breeds no choice at all. But only hyper individualism. Which is a cancer in my view.


My Body my Choice.

Or my Guns my choice.





Or my Business my choice.


Quite frankly, I’m starting to question the American republic as a whole. It breeds in my view the type of Hyper individualism that Most Christian leaders have used to reject. 

There’s a reason why the French Revolution was so destabilizing.

Joju , something you fail to understand is American culture has always been both extremely individualistic as well as religious which is why you can’t make comparisons with other societies as most other societies are one or the other while the US has always been both .

Individualism used to be controlled and mediated and moderated by social institutions. Those institutions decayed, and so, the individualism, unrestrained, runs amock.

[Person Man]

As you can see, everyone here has a well-developed sense of right and wrong. How we get there or even if we can is a total mystery. A just society may not be a functional society. Original Sin and all. At least not until the very end.