CNN: Germany plans to destroy this village for a coal mine. Thousands are gathering to stop it

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Germany plans to destroy this village for a coal mine. Thousands are gathering to stop it

Hard to believe this. Even the greens are in the government of Germany. People call me crazy that i don't vote green because i don't believe they're green enough or genuine. Well lol, here's the evidence. Black on white. The German government is currently Grünen, SPD, FDP and i'm sure CDU also has a role in this nonsense. All parties part of the so-called reasonable center or center-left. It's why i don't vote for them.

I read thousands of articles of climate change in newspapers, sometimes alarmists. And what do we get, we do nothing at all. All we do is talk, and don't take actions. Maybe we do say climate change is real and man-made and is a threatening issue, but we don't do anything about it. It's so disappointing, frustrating and makes me feel angered.

It's why i don't vote for so-called reasonable centrist parties if they continue to be in the picture like this.

The greens need to stop being GINO and do some actual work.

[Middle-aged Europe]

It's a little more complex than that, although at the same time I also have some sympathies for the protests.

For starters, it's an village that has been evacuated for years now.

Second, according to a higher court ruling energy company RWE has the right to mine coal in Lützerath and five other villages (which unlike Lützerath are still inhabited) in the area. Last year, Green economics minister Robert Habeck negotiated them down to only Lützerath and got them to agree to stop coal mining in North Rhine-Westphalia altogether by 2030 instead of the previously scheduled year 2038. Legally, RWE wasn't actually bound to accept that deal, although it had better optics PR-wise, I guess (and coal is a dying industry where you are eventuallly bound to lose money anyway).

Now I have already read statements by supporters of the protests who argued that climate change constitutes such a grave danger for humanity that it justifies ignoring the court ruling and the laws. They are certainly free to believe that, but IMO it's kind of unrealistic to expect that the Greens as a current governing party would suspend the rule of law over Lützerath.

[Virginiá]

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[CumbrianLefty]

It's a little more complex than that

It usually is, but that the Greens in particular look foolish over this cannot be denied.

[Isaak]

It's a little more complex than that

It usually is, but that the Greens in particular look foolish over this cannot be denied.

Why? They got a pretty great deal – RWE could have played hardball and insisted on clearing much more than just this ghost village. And if the Greens had positioned themselves against a court ruling, they would have given their opponents much more dangerous ammunition.

[Middle-aged Europe]

It's a little more complex than that

It usually is, but that the Greens in particular look foolish over this cannot be denied.

There probably wasn't a scenario where they wouldn't have looked foolish in some way. A no-win situation, really.

[Estrella]

You wanted an Atomausstieg? Here's your damn Atomausstieg.

[Tintrlvr]

It's a little more complex than that

It usually is, but that the Greens in particular look foolish over this cannot be denied.

The German Greens have been looking like fools for decades on this issue, ever since they decided coal was preferable to nuclear power.

[Middle-aged Europe]

It's a little more complex than that

It usually is, but that the Greens in particular look foolish over this cannot be denied.

The German Greens have been looking like fools for decades on this issue, ever since they decided coal was preferable to nuclear power.

Well, there is at least one issue where coal is indeed preferable to nuclear power.

Nuclear power plants aren't something you can simply shut down and reboot at will. They have to be operated continuously. As such you are also continuously injecting electricity from nuclear power plants into the grids, saturating and sometimes oversaturating them. The oversaturation of power grids through nuclear power is regarded as one of the main factors in hindering the effective expansion of the renewables, because then you have wind turbines who have to remain in standby despite the fact that the wind is blowing, rendering renewables unprofitable in the process.

You don't face a similar problem with coal (or gas for that matter), because these plants can in fact be powered down in a way nuclear plants can't so easily. You have an advantage that you don't have with nuclear power: Flexibility. At times when the power grid can almost entirely be saturated through renewables - in the summers mostly - you can shut coal down and keep it in reserve for the times when you need it.

Whether this downside of nuclear energy really outweighs the upsides must everyone decide for themselves. But, when you look at the dire situation in France this winter you see that nuclear power isn't always a universal remedy either.

[Zinneke]

It's a little more complex than that

It usually is, but that the Greens in particular look foolish over this cannot be denied.

The German Greens have been looking like fools for decades on this issue, ever since they decided coal was preferable to nuclear power.

It's a psyop. before they were Green they were anti-Nuclear. The TV series Dark is part of the psy-op, now all those techno dweebs off their faces on crystal meth think nuclear power makes you time travel. All of this is funded by Gazprom and the FSB. Follow the money, folks.

[DavidB.]

Whether this downside of nuclear energy really outweighs the upsides must everyone decide for themselves. But, when you look at the dire situation in France this winter you see that nuclear power isn't always a universal remedy either.

That's just a consequence of the unbelievably bad choice by various French administrations to never allocate sufficient funds for the maintenance of the power plants. Any power plant is going to be out of order sooner or later if you don't maintain it properly. This is not something that's inherent to nuclear power at all and could have been avoided easily.

[Logical]

The real Ampelkoalition

[Middle-aged Europe]

Greta Thunberg got carried away today. She seems happy so far.

[It’s so Joever]

Greta Thunberg got carried away today. She seems happy so far.

Far right wing icons get arrested for literal human trafficking, far left icons get arrested for peacefully protesting the destruction of an entire village for a dying industry’s last gasp. As you can see both sides are the same.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Greta Thunberg got carried away today. She seems happy so far.

Far right wing icons get arrested for literal human trafficking, far left icons get arrested for peacefully protesting the destruction of an entire village for a dying industry’s last gasp. As you can see both sides are the same.

Don't know what you try to say, but I wouldn't call Thunberg a far left icon. Yes, she's maybe an idol of me, but i'm honestly to the left of her. However at the very least, she tries to do something about, while I prefer to stay home because I don't have the energy to be like her.

Maybe it's far left for US standards, but IIRC she didn't vote for the far-left party in her country. And some Belgian equivalents of Thunberg even voted for liberal parties (as opposed to green) which is considered center right.

The climate crisis cannot be solved in a capitalist system, and they don't acknowledge that fact. They also fail to see that the meat industry is a big factor in the climate crisis, something that isn't accentuated enough or plain ignored by climate guru's / frauds like Al Gore.

Even the greens in European countries fail to see this issue, and claim to be climate / environmental activists but really are not consistently so, some of them can easily be called GINOs.

The only way to get a way out of this crisis while keeping the current economical system is technological advancements to be honest, whether it be market-led/market-stimulated/government stimulated idk, but as long revenue is the sole goal, exploitation will always happen.

[MaxQue]

Whether this downside of nuclear energy really outweighs the upsides must everyone decide for themselves. But, when you look at the dire situation in France this winter you see that nuclear power isn't always a universal remedy either.

That's just a consequence of the unbelievably bad choice by various French administrations to never allocate sufficient funds for the maintenance of the power plants. Any power plant is going to be out of order sooner or later if you don't maintain it properly. This is not something that's inherent to nuclear power at all and could have been avoided easily.

French administration? EDF is run like a private business and it was more busy seeking profits quick profit on other continents than maintaning their assets. Don't blame governments for failures of capitalism.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

With the Greens and SPD being bad why is the FDP also falling in the polls?

[Isaak]

With the Greens and SPD being bad why is the FDP also falling in the polls?

Because many of its voters are fed up with the FDP being a fig leaf in a leftist government. And because Friedrich Merz does a pretty good job so far.