Flint water crisis charges dismissed against ex-Gov. Snyder

[PSOL]

https://apnews.com/article/health-crime-michigan-indictments-rick-snyder-ccdb4cea9e892c0a5a6f1d6bac80247e?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_07

A judge dismissed criminal charges against former Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder in the Flint water crisis, months after the state Supreme Court said indictments returned by a one-person grand jury were invalid.

Snyder, a Republican who left office in 2019, was charged with two misdemeanor counts of willful neglect of duty. He was the first person in state history to be charged for alleged crimes related to service as governor.

Snyder also is the eighth person to have a Flint water case thrown out after the Supreme Court’s unanimous June opinion.

[T'Chenka]

The lack of accountability for something so incredibly important is beyond the pale.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The lack of accountability for something so incredibly important is beyond the pale.

Outcomes like this are part of what is incrementally but relentlessly moving trust in America's justice system from greviously wounded to outright zombiehood (dead, but still gojgn through the motions).

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

How much palm greasing was needed for this one?

[Fuzzy Bear]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

[Ferguson97]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

You're going to have to provide some evidence for a claim like that.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Sure he poisoned kids, but he endorsed Biden.

[bagelman]

Rich and powerful people don't get punished. I don't actually know how responsible Snyder personally was in this case, but I don't care to know because it doesn't matter.

[dead0man]

Sure he poisoned kids, but he endorsed Biden.

he wasn't the person that switched the water away from the clean Detroit water to save money despite experts saying it was a bad idea, that was local politicians.  But they wear the correctly colored hat, so they can't be blamed.  We must blame someone wearing the wrong colored hat!

[Benjamin Frank]

One of my biases is that politicians generally receive too much blame and the public not enough.  Here in Canada right now we have one level of politicans (premiers) demanding more money from another level (federal) to deal with the 'tripledemic.' 

I'm only familiar with one person (former Conservative M.P James Moore) saying "we can assign blame later, but right now let's not forget that parents can help with a large amount of this by getting their kids vaccinated and by keeping them home if sick."

So, in the context of Flint, I know that Americans hate paying taxes which greatly constrains the ability of governments to do things. So, for Governor Snyder, I think unless there is clear evidence of intentional malfeasance, rather than simply 'horrible things happen and we need some politician to blame whenever they do' I doubt there really is a case.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

You're going to have to provide some evidence for a claim like that.

I think that the inaction speaks for itself.   

[Schiff for Senate]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

🙄

Snyder is also a conservative- particularly economically conservative - Republican. He’s from YOUR party, whether or not he endorsed Biden. We don’t claim him. LOL at your insinuation that Biden’s DOJ is political. Did you see the stuff the DOJ did under Trump? Bill Barr (but then, he’s also a RINO, I’m sure, because he couldn’t, despite his best efforts, find evidence of fraud where there was none) staunchly defended Trump’s every action and criticised legitimate and warranted investigations into him, and he sent federal law enforcement officers to violently suppress peaceful protestors, called BLM protestors Bolshevik’s, asserted fraud in 2020, and launched a which-hunt investigation into the 2020 results. BILL BARR politicised the DOJ for Donald Trump. So you’re not fooling anyone when you project and act like Merrick Garland (who, btw, would be on the Supreme Court right now if the brazenly partisan Mitch McConnell didn’t blatantly block his confirmation for no good reason) and his DOJ are the hacks here.

[Schiff for Senate]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

You're going to have to provide some evidence for a claim like that.

I think that the inaction speaks for itself.   

Again, the projection here is just way too much. I can name several dozen brazenly political actions Barr and his DOJ took to politicise the Department of Justice - his Wikipedia page, I think, says it all. Just because your side made the DOJ more hackish and partisan than it had been in a long, long time, doesn’t mean that our side is as hackish or as bad. You refuse to acknowledge all that Trump’s DOJ did to politicise that department, but you’re willing to spout absolutely baseless conspiracy theories that Biden’s DOJ is the one that’s political. Get over yourself. Present evidence that Biden/Garland’s DOJ is political. And stop closing your eyes to or denying the mountains of evidence that it was Trump/Barr’s DOJ that was brazenly political every single step of the way (now granted that Barr couldn’t procure/falsify evidence that wasn’t there, so I guess he’s just a “RINO” now, but before that he was the biggest political hack to serve as AG in a long time - and pretty much every single action he took and decision he made proves it, unlike with Garland, where you’re doing your best to make a mountain ⛰ out of a few scraps of molehill).

[Fuzzy Bear]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

You're going to have to provide some evidence for a claim like that.

I think that the inaction speaks for itself.   

Again, the projection here is just way too much. I can name several dozen brazenly political actions Barr and his DOJ took to politicise the Department of Justice - his Wikipedia page, I think, says it all. Just because your side made the DOJ more hackish and partisan than it had been in a long, long time, doesn’t mean that our side is as hackish or as bad. You refuse to acknowledge all that Trump’s DOJ did to politicise that department, but you’re willing to spout absolutely baseless conspiracy theories that Biden’s DOJ is the one that’s political. Get over yourself. Present evidence that Biden/Garland’s DOJ is political. And stop closing your eyes to or denying the mountains of evidence that it was Trump/Barr’s DOJ that was brazenly political every single step of the way (now granted that Barr couldn’t procure/falsify evidence that wasn’t there, so I guess he’s just a “RINO” now, but before that he was the biggest political hack to serve as AG in a long time - and pretty much every single action he took and decision he made proves it, unlike with Garland, where you’re doing your best to make a mountain ⛰ out of a few scraps of molehill).

Two (2) posts in a row of whataboutisms,  to the point of spamming the thread, and no outrage from red avatars or ProudModerate2.   Just sayin'.

[Schiff for Senate]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

You're going to have to provide some evidence for a claim like that.

I think that the inaction speaks for itself.  

Again, the projection here is just way too much. I can name several dozen brazenly political actions Barr and his DOJ took to politicise the Department of Justice - his Wikipedia page, I think, says it all. Just because your side made the DOJ more hackish and partisan than it had been in a long, long time, doesn’t mean that our side is as hackish or as bad. You refuse to acknowledge all that Trump’s DOJ did to politicise that department, but you’re willing to spout absolutely baseless conspiracy theories that Biden’s DOJ is the one that’s political. Get over yourself. Present evidence that Biden/Garland’s DOJ is political. And stop closing your eyes to or denying the mountains of evidence that it was Trump/Barr’s DOJ that was brazenly political every single step of the way (now granted that Barr couldn’t procure/falsify evidence that wasn’t there, so I guess he’s just a “RINO” now, but before that he was the biggest political hack to serve as AG in a long time - and pretty much every single action he took and decision he made proves it, unlike with Garland, where you’re doing your best to make a mountain ⛰ out of a few scraps of molehill).

Two (2) posts in a row of whataboutisms,  to the point of spamming the thread, and no outrage from red avatars or ProudModerate2.   Just sayin'.

What “whataboutism?” You’re baselessly asserting political hackery by the Garland DOJ, as usual without offering a shred of evidence, just your own random and proof-lacking musings. I’m just pointing out where the real partisan hackery came from (and I notice you’ve not bothered to address that).

Besides, even if my posts ARE somehow moderation-worthy “whataboutism,” the mods aren’t available 24/7 and just because you replied to my post within 3 minutes doesn’t mean they saw it that quickly. At the very least give it a day or so before you return to victimising yourself and crying “Bias! Bias!” on the part of the mods. More than my statement of facts, IMO, you baselessly spouting new conspiracy theories should be worthy of moderation, but if the mods don’t delete your post within 5 minutes (or even if they don’t remove it at all), you won’t here me whining and complaining about it.


Btw, how goes your search to find the evidence that isn’t there regarding Trump’s 2020 win? I know you operate at a higher level in trotting out multiple different lies at the same time.

Now unlike you, I can always offer actual evidence to back up my assertions, in this case that Bill Barr's Department of Justice was intensely political and much more closely tied to the presidency than past DOJs. All you have to do is ask for evidence, and I'll be happy to supply in one big wall of text.

[Schiff for Senate]

Snyder should be in a cell and it's a disgrace that he isn't and that he hasn't been for years now.

Flint and Jackson are signs of how broken America's government is when it comes to solving problems. Seems like if there's no profit or celebrity in stopping it, our politicians are happy to let communities be poisoned in a dozen ways. It's savage and would inevitably be abused, but it sure seems like we'd have less dereliction of duty and corruption by our scumbag politicians if we penalized them by seizing their entire net worth and locking them in a pillory.

Everyone stop replying to the absolute clown who supports terminating the constitution.

Agreed with the first two paragraphs. Regarding the last line...now where did Fuzzy say that? Not saying that he didn't, and if his Cult Hero said it (which he did), not difficult to believe Fuzzy nodded along, but I'd still like to see a post with Fuzzy indicating as such.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Snyder should be in a cell and it's a disgrace that he isn't and that he hasn't been for years now.

Flint and Jackson are signs of how broken America's government is when it comes to solving problems. Seems like if there's no profit or celebrity in stopping it, our politicians are happy to let communities be poisoned in a dozen ways. It's savage and would inevitably be abused, but it sure seems like we'd have less dereliction of duty and corruption by our scumbag politicians if we penalized them by seizing their entire net worth and locking them in a pillory.

Everyone stop replying to the absolute clown who supports terminating the constitution.

Agreed with the first two paragraphs. Regarding the last line...now where did Fuzzy say that? Not saying that he didn't, and if his Cult Hero said it (which he did), not difficult to believe Fuzzy nodded along, but I'd still like to see a post with Fuzzy indicating as such.

Fuzzy expressed disapproval of Trump saying this.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Snyder should be in a cell and it's a disgrace that he isn't and that he hasn't been for years now.

Flint and Jackson are signs of how broken America's government is when it comes to solving problems. Seems like if there's no profit or celebrity in stopping it, our politicians are happy to let communities be poisoned in a dozen ways. It's savage and would inevitably be abused, but it sure seems like we'd have less dereliction of duty and corruption by our scumbag politicians if we penalized them by seizing their entire net worth and locking them in a pillory.

Everyone stop replying to the absolute clown who supports terminating the constitution.

Agreed with the first two paragraphs. Regarding the last line...now where did Fuzzy say that? Not saying that he didn't, and if his Cult Hero said it (which he did), not difficult to believe Fuzzy nodded along, but I'd still like to see a post with Fuzzy indicating as such.

Fuzzy expressed disapproval of Trump saying this.

He said he wouldn't sign off on the comment, then he repeated the lies created to justify the coup, tried to deflect from and dismiss the attack on the constitution and the United States ("the REAL threat is..."), and then ignored posters asking him if he'd rule out voting for the man who made it.

He said:

And, no, suspending the Constitution is not something that is ever good.  That being said,

No matter how you read it, he expressed disapproval towards Trump floating this idea, or at the very least, towards the idea itself - though if there is any difference between these two things, it is practically splitting hairs.
I posted that comment having read that post when he posted it. You don't need to tell me what it contains.

[Ferguson97]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

You're going to have to provide some evidence for a claim like that.

I think that the inaction speaks for itself.   

So no, you don't.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Snyder was a NeverTrump Republican  who endorsed Biden in 2020.  Just in case you were wondering about the DOJ sleeping through this.

You're going to have to provide some evidence for a claim like that.

I think that the inaction speaks for itself.   

So no, you don't.

Someone should bring this up at the next Presser that Karine Jean-Pierre puts on.  Meanwhile,  such inaction and silence on this issue,  which is pre-Trump, for God's sake, speaks loudly enough for someone to ask what the deal is.

[darklordoftech]

Sure he poisoned kids, but he endorsed Biden.

he wasn't the person that switched the water away from the clean Detroit water to save money despite experts saying it was a bad idea, that was local politicians.  But they wear the correctly colored hat, so they can't be blamed.  We must blame someone wearing the wrong colored hat!

I’ve seen a bunch of tweets saying that “online leftists” wrongly blame Biden and Democrats in general for the Flint water crisis.

[dead0man]

Sure he poisoned kids, but he endorsed Biden.

he wasn't the person that switched the water away from the clean Detroit water to save money despite experts saying it was a bad idea, that was local politicians.  But they wear the correctly colored hat, so they can't be blamed.  We must blame someone wearing the wrong colored hat!

I’ve seen a bunch of tweets saying that “online leftists” wrongly blame Biden and Democrats in general for the Flint water crisis.

I don't know what this means in relation to my post.  Anyone who blames Biden or Dems in general for Flint's water problem is wrong.  It was the locally elected Democrats that made the horribly stupid choice.  There are a million things to blame Democrats/Biden for, this ain't it.  (other than maybe trying to tie it all as a fault of Republicans, which is dumber than blaming Democrats, but as this thread shows, idiots fall for it because they want to.  If someone says "Republicans did it", there is never a reason to look into it any deeper than that.)