Anti-Trans bill defeated in Missouri Senate

[MarkD]

An amendment to SB718, which was called "Save Women Sports," was defeated 11 "yes" to 16 "no," with 7 absences.

All 10 Democrats voted "no," while among the 24 Republicans, 11 voted "yes," 6 voted "no," and 7 were absent. If all 7 of the absent Republicans had been present and they all voted "yes," they would have passed the amendment 18 to 16. (The Facebook post below inaccurately says that 6 were absent.)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=566224921726882&set=p.566224921726882&type=3

Among the 6 GOP who voted "no" with the Dems were Lincoln Hough (Springfield) and Bill White (Joplin), both of whom have a female opponent running against them in the Republican primary this year (August 2). Jeanie Riddle (Callaway County) is forced out this year by term limits. Elaine Gannon (DeSoto) and Holly Rehder (Scott County) are first-termers eligible to run for reelection in 2024. Caleb Rowden (Columbia) (the only Republican Senator from a Democratic-leaning district) will be term-limited out in 2024. Rowden's vote does not surprise me, but all five of the others surprise the hell out of me.

(The underlying bill designates the third week of September as "Historically Black College and University Week.")

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

Oh, sweet. Watch them turn around and ban HRT for all under-25s.

[Alben Barkley]

What were the details of this bill?

Considering, as the previous poster pointed out, MO is set to enact some of the harshest restrictions on gender transition in the country, I find it hard to believe it would be shot down by Republicans unless it was VERY extreme and went way beyond just the kind of blanket ban on biological males in women's sports we've seen in other states.

[Schiff for Senate]

What were the details of this bill?

Considering, as the previous poster pointed out, MO is set to enact some of the harshest restrictions on gender transition in the country, I find it hard to believe it would be shot down by Republicans unless it was VERY extreme and went way beyond just the kind of blanket ban on biological males in women's sports we've seen in other states.

Yeah that makes sense. Maybe a few GOP defections make sense but these are a lot. This bill might have been very extreme, given the number of defections it got. Either that or for whatever reason the MOGOP is much more moderate on social issues than, say, the INGOP, UTGOP and AZGOP.

[JGibson]

Oh, sweet. Watch them turn around and ban HRT for all under-25s.

They stopped that (for now).

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hopefully, this help our S candidate Ds defeat Greitans it's a long shot but as I said in another thread the 303 map isn't enshrined in the Constitution, we can win wave insurance seats especially in Midterms

2018 and we won far fewer than 80 M votes it was close to 65/60 M as in 2016 which is what I expect this yr, but you never know we are tied in NC and we won a bunch of H races in NC and KS in 2018 with 65)60 M votes

[MarkD]

What were the details of this bill?

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I've researched the answer to your question and I finally found this: Senator Moon (SD 29 - Republic) offered Section 167.780 as an amendment to SB 718 -- although this amendment also has a designation as SB 781 -- and this amendment was worded as follow:
SS/SCS/SB 781 - This act establishes the "Save Women's Sports Act."
No athletic team or sport designated for biological females, as defined in the act, shall be open to students that are biological males, as defined in the act.
No governmental entity, licensing or accrediting organization, or athletic association or organization shall take any adverse action, as described in the act, against a school for maintaining separate interscholastic or intramural athletic teams or sports for students that are biological females.
No public or private middle school or high school or a public or private institution of postsecondary education that has biological males playing biological female’s sports shall be eligible for money appropriated by the General Assembly.
For the purposes of this section, the following terms shall mean:
(1) "Biological females", persons with the biological indicators of a female in the context of reproductive potential or capacity, such as the absence of a Y chromosome, naturally occurring sex hormones, gonads, and nonambiguous internal and external genetalia present at birth, without regard to an individual's psychological, chosen, or subjective experience of gender:
(2) "Biological males", persons with the biological indicators of a male in the context of reproductive potential or capacity, such as the presence of a Y chromosome, naturally occurring sex hormones, gonads, and nonambiguous external genetalia present at birth, without regard to an individual's psychological, chosen, or subjective [experience] of gender.
This act is similar to SB 503 (2021).

https://www.senate.mo.gov/22info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=71259890
https://www.senate.mo.gov/22info/BTS_Amendments/?SessionType=R&BillID=71259890

[DaleCooper]

I'm guessing it's the part that revokes all money from institutions that have males and females on the same team that ended up sinking it. That's over-the-top and un-nuanced.

[Stranger in a strange land]

I'm guessing it's the part that revokes all money from institutions that have males and females on the same team that ended up sinking it. That's over-the-top and un-nuanced.

Also it looks like it would require chromosome tests and genital inspections to even be enforceable, which wouldn't be so fun for right-wing transphones if it happened to them.

[DaleCooper]

I'm guessing it's the part that revokes all money from institutions that have males and females on the same team that ended up sinking it. That's over-the-top and un-nuanced.

Also it looks like it would require chromosome tests and genital inspections to even be enforceable, which wouldn't be so fun for right-wing transphones if it happened to them.

Would it?

[Stranger in a strange land]

I'm guessing it's the part that revokes all money from institutions that have males and females on the same team that ended up sinking it. That's over-the-top and un-nuanced.

Also it looks like it would require chromosome tests and genital inspections to even be enforceable, which wouldn't be so fun for right-wing transphones if it happened to them.

Would it?

Read how the bill defines gender. There's no other way to enforce it. One of the main problems with bathroom bills is that a cis woman with short hair or wearing baggy clothes might have the cops called on her for using the women's' restroom, as might a passing trans person for using the bathroom of their sex assigned at birth, and this would have the same problem to a much greater degree. This is even more unrealistic and creepy than terminally online gender studies grad students who talk like they're from an alien species that either doesn't have a concept of gender at all or that has a totally different one from humans (i.e. "birthing bodies", "chestfeeding", "mensutrator/person who mensturates", etc)

[DaleCooper]

I'm guessing it's the part that revokes all money from institutions that have males and females on the same team that ended up sinking it. That's over-the-top and un-nuanced.

Also it looks like it would require chromosome tests and genital inspections to even be enforceable, which wouldn't be so fun for right-wing transphones if it happened to them.

Would it?

Read how the bill defines gender. There's no other way to enforce it. One of the main problems with bathroom bills is that a cis woman with short hair or wearing baggy clothes might have the cops called on her for using the women's' restroom, as might a passing trans person for using the bathroom of their sex assigned at birth, and this would have the same problem to a much greater degree. This is even more unrealistic and creepy than terminally online gender studies grad students who talk like they're from an alien species that either doesn't have a concept of gender at all or that has a totally different one from humans (i.e. "birthing bodies", "chestfeeding", "mensutrator/person who mensturates", etc)

It doesn't define gender. It defines biological sex in what looks like a pretty reasonable way, and this is about sports teams not gendered facilities (unless they've snuck that into it through an amendment I haven't heard about). The liberal fear-mongering about locker room genital inspections by school officials is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will.

[T'Chenka]

The liberal fear-mongering about locker room genital inspections by school officials is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will.

Just wait.

[HAnnA MArin County]

An amendment to SB718, which was called "Save Women Sports," was defeated 11 "yes" to 16 "no," with 7 absences.

All 10 Democrats voted "no," while among the 24 Republicans, 11 voted "yes," 6 voted "no," and 7 were absent. If all 7 of the absent Republicans had been present and they all voted "yes," they would have passed the amendment 18 to 16. (The Facebook post below inaccurately says that 6 were absent.)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=566224921726882&set=p.566224921726882&type=3

Among the 6 GOP who voted "no" with the Dems were Lincoln Hough (Springfield) and Bill White (Joplin), both of whom have a female opponent running against them in the Republican primary this year (August 2). Jeanie Riddle (Callaway County) is forced out this year by term limits. Elaine Gannon (DeSoto) and Holly Rehder (Scott County) are first-termers eligible to run for reelection in 2024. Caleb Rowden (Columbia) (the only Republican Senator from a Democratic-leaning district) will be term-limited out in 2024. Rowden's vote does not surprise me, but all five of the others surprise the hell out of me.

(The underlying bill designates the third week of September as "Historically Black College and University Week.")

Wow. For once I can be proud of my state senator! She's just as deplorable as the rest of the fascists but give credit where credit is due for doing the right thing. 

[Ferguson97]

The liberal fear-mongering about locker room genital inspections by school officials is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will.

"The liberal fear-mongering about Republicans trying to overturn the 2020 election if they lose is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about investigating parents of trans kids for abuse is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about teachers being fired for their sexual orientation is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about charging women with murder if they miscarry is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

How many times are we going to do this?

[DaleCooper]

The liberal fear-mongering about locker room genital inspections by school officials is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will.

"The liberal fear-mongering about Republicans trying to overturn the 2020 election if they lose is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about investigating parents of trans kids for abuse is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about teachers being fired for their sexual orientation is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about charging women with murder if they miscarry is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

How many times are we going to do this?

None of that was fear-mongering. It all seemed like obvious stuff Republicans wanted to do. 

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

The liberal fear-mongering about locker room genital inspections by school officials is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will.

"The liberal fear-mongering about Republicans trying to overturn the 2020 election if they lose is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about investigating parents of trans kids for abuse is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about teachers being fired for their sexual orientation is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about charging women with murder if they miscarry is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

How many times are we going to do this?

None of that was fear-mongering. It all seemed like obvious stuff Republicans wanted to do. 

https://www.acluwv.org/en/cases/michael-critchfield

[Ferguson97]

The liberal fear-mongering about locker room genital inspections by school officials is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will.

"The liberal fear-mongering about Republicans trying to overturn the 2020 election if they lose is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about investigating parents of trans kids for abuse is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about teachers being fired for their sexual orientation is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

"The liberal fear-mongering about charging women with murder if they miscarry is silly and disingenuous; it's not happening and likely never will."

How many times are we going to do this?

None of that was fear-mongering. It all seemed like obvious stuff Republicans wanted to do. 

... Yes, that's literally the point of my post.

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

Why would trans men want to compete in women's sports?