Is there a significant chance Brazil’s economic and political situation soon mirrors Venezuala’s?
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  Is there a significant chance Brazil’s economic and political situation soon mirrors Venezuala’s?
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2022, 05:37:12 AM »
« edited: November 05, 2022, 05:42:42 AM by Middle-aged Europe »

"1940s Clement Atlee was just like 2000s Hugo Chavez therefore 2020s Lula is just like 2000s Hugo Chavez and therefore Brazil will be bankrupt soon" probably counts as a form of insane troll logic.

Also, I have to repeat myself because it apparently didn't work first time around:


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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2022, 08:28:53 AM »

"1940s Clement Atlee was just like 2000s Hugo Chavez therefore 2020s Lula is just like 2000s Hugo Chavez and therefore Brazil will be bankrupt soon" probably counts as a form of insane troll logic.

Stop misrepresenting my argument. I’m saying that the Chavez regime wasn’t that radical (no, nationalization of some companies is not radical, lest one considers Clement Attlee “radical”) in the policies they implemented, so the idea that Lula “not being radical” means that there cannot be any economic collapse is a non sequitur.
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2022, 08:57:22 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2022, 09:07:59 AM by Middle-aged Europe »

"1940s Clement Atlee was just like 2000s Hugo Chavez therefore 2020s Lula is just like 2000s Hugo Chavez and therefore Brazil will be bankrupt soon" probably counts as a form of insane troll logic.

Stop misrepresenting my argument. I’m saying that the Chavez regime wasn’t that radical (no, nationalization of some companies is not radical, lest one considers Clement Attlee “radical”) in the policies they implemented, so the idea that Lula “not being radical” means that there cannot be any economic collapse is a non sequitur.

Whether I "misrepresent" your argument is completely immaterial to the topic at hand, as is also your Atlee reference.


There are probably only three relevant questions here:

1) What economic policies had Hugo Chavez implemented?

2) Did those economic policies lead to an economic downturn in Venezuela and how?

3) Is it a reasonable assumption to make - based on his previous conduct as President between 2003 and 2010, the campaign promises he made in 2022, and the current political makeup of the Congress of Brazil - that Lula would implement similar policies as Chavez did?
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2022, 05:10:30 PM »

2000s Venezuela or 2022 Venezuela? 2000s Venezuela was doing very well because of oil revenues...
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