ME-02 (UNH): Golden +11

[S019]

Why are we acting like this is Safe D with Golden at 44%, which is an awful place for an incumbent in a district that also leans well to the right of the nation. Golden also has 87% of Biden voters and 88% of Democrats in this poll. It's clear Republicans have room to grow, and I would not be surprised to see a sizable swing right late in this race (just like we're currently seeing in Ohio).

With all due respect, you've admitted openly you want Golden to lose so he's not the nominee for Senate in 2024, so I don't think your necessarily arguing objectively about this.

It's kind of annoying how the usual suspects think Democrats being Republican-lite is how you win elections when that strategy failed horribly in 2010+2014. In any case, I'd say there are too many undecideds to be useful and I of course remember 2020 when Gideon was always falling below 50%, which was an ominous sign, in hindsight (especially since Collins was never only going to get 43%).

Yeah, I'm sure progressives would have done better in states like f--king Arkansas in those years.

Lololololololololol

First off, I'm not a progressive (in some ways I'm more right wing than you). Second, there's a fine line between being moderate and sabotaging your party at every opportunity. Tom Carper is one the most moderate Democratic Senators, but you never hear about him because he is a team player and often puts his personal concerns aside to do what is best for the country.

Golden casts performative "no" votes but they are never significant and never prevent the party from passing legislation. He's never prevented legislation from coming up for a vote like Manchin and Sinema have. For a red district Democrat, he is much better than a Gottheimer, Spanberger, Lamb, Stephanie Murphy, etc. Hell even some of his nay votes have been from the left in voting against BBB because of the SALT inclusion. He fits his district well and will almost certainly shift left when elected Senator. He was a cosponsor of Medicare For All, supported bills allowing people in prison to vote, supported lowering the voting age to 16, supported the repeal of three outdated AUMFs. I'm shocked he's seen as objectionable when we could have far worse. See Elanie Luria complaining about and trashing the stock ban legislation.

Elaine Luria, unlike Golden, has not actually voted against anything important. It's easy to cast meaningless votes to repeal the AUMF (something only the far left really cares about). Also arguing someone supports Medicare for All is not going to convince me and it's a pipe dream anyways. Also Gottheimer, Spanberger, Lamb, and Murphy are at least all staunch social liberals, which can't be said about Golden. After Sinema, why should Democrats even take this risk? He's also pro gun, which should be an immediate disqualifier for Democrats seeking statewide office in blue states.

And Golden's "nay" votes matter when legislation passes anyway because??? It's completely nonsensical and shows that you're being duped just as easily as ME-02 Republicans to think Golden is actually moderate/conservative. Also, repeal of AUMF has broad appeal with Republicans supporting it as well, so maybe actually fact check first before you claim a policy position is "far left". Yes, he's pro-gun in a state and district in particular, where that issue matters and voters in 2016 voted against background checks for gun sales statewide.

It is legimately funny to see posters on here get fooled by Golden as easily as Republicans in his district are.

It doesn't matter right now because he doesn't hold the balance of power and other than Schrader, every other Democrat (yes even Cuellar) is much more of a team player. If he became a Senator, he'd hold vastly more power and could be an obstacle to removing the filibuster or passing legislation. Sinema's votes didn't matter when she was in the House either, but they very much do now.

[MT Treasurer]

It is legimately funny to see posters on here get fooled by Golden as easily as Republicans in his district are.

These are the same people who think Manchin/Sinema didn’t performatively act as spokespeople for the D caucus but actually single-handedly derailed the D agenda with respect to Court packing, EC, filibuster, etc. "Critical thinking" is a foreign concept not just to most non-Atlas posters, unfortunately.

Also, S019 has many "interesting" views like the FL races being highly competitive this year.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It is legimately funny to see posters on here get fooled by Golden as easily as Republicans in his district are.

These are the same people who think Manchin/Sinema didn’t performatively act as spokespeople for the D caucus but actually single-handedly derailed the D agenda with respect to Court packing, EC, filibuster, etc. "Critical thinking" is a foreign concept not just to most non-Atlas posters, unfortunately.

Also, S019 has many "interesting" views like the FL races being highly competitive this year.

You know alot of these close race single women, black, latino and Arabs account for 5 percent of the vote, we are not the majority but white men are but with respect to Filibuster Reform, if Tim Ryan wins, we want Voting Rights, the Crt stripped out part of the Voting Rights to Gerrymander R districts and Rs want to ask for our vote, thats why Johnson, Laxalt, Vance, Oz, and Lee and Budd whom are tied or have a slight lead are gonna lose because of the minority vote, why do you think WI, MI, and PA voted for Reagan and Bush H and then voted Clinton, Kerry, Gore, Obama, Biden because black and Latinos were content being in projects during the Reagan era and there aren't anymore public housing so they got up and started voting D. If Bobby or Teddy Kennedy were the nominee they would have won Cali from Nixon and Reagan and won MI, WI and PA