MS Gov. Reeves- privization on the table following Jackson water crisis
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« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2022, 01:24:00 PM »

Private profits over human lives is a hell of a philosophy.

Private enterprise serves consumers better.

Hardly. Not about water, but there are lots of places with lousy or even non-existent internet service but community broadband that is cheaper, faster and less frustrating than private offerings.

Private industry can be even worse for consumers if it balloons into a monopoly with no incentive whatsoever to provide good, affordable service.

I said that private enterprise serves consumers better, not that it guarantees internet access anywhere, anytime. The cost of providing the internet service in, say, rural Alaska (pre-Starlink type technologies) may simply not be worth it.

Monopolies can only exist as the consequence of force, whether government or private, which is anathema to the capitalist belief in free exchange.

We're talking about a water system. Do you seriously think having multiple networks of pipes and sewers run by different companies going to every house/building is a feasible situation or that any sane enterprise would build a whole new water system parallel to an existing one?
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« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2022, 06:50:46 PM »

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« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2022, 08:12:19 PM »



I live in Roseville CA, a city that has their own electricity, and own water system.

While PG and E pushed rolling black outs, Roseville Electric stayed strong even through heat waves.


The electrical rates are lower than the PG and E.

And the Water’s great !

SMUD has been doing well too! Here’s hoping SMUD and Roseville Electric do well for the rest of the week.

And speaking of which; Nearby Rocklin uses PG and E. They just had a power shutoff. Roseville ? Still running. Sacramento ? Still running.
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« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2022, 08:18:18 PM »

Private profits over human lives is a hell of a philosophy.

Private enterprise serves consumers better.

If you pay enough, sure. If you don't have the money, it's not better by any means.

There is no right to someone else's labor.
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« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2022, 08:22:55 PM »

It is shocking how much people are capable of binding themselves to doctrine and then parroting that orthodoxy without a second thought.

Right. Absolutely insane to see all the people here rejecting privatization even as a government run system fails before their eyes.
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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2022, 12:58:23 AM »

It is shocking how much people are capable of binding themselves to doctrine and then parroting that orthodoxy without a second thought.

Right. Absolutely insane to see all the people here rejecting privatization even as a government run system fails before their eyes.

If privatizing Jackson's water would somehow fix it, fine. I don't know enough about the problem to be able to say for sure that it wouldn't. The arguments you're making in this thread go much, much further than this one particular crisis, though.
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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2022, 03:29:31 AM »

Flint never had a private company in charge of their water.  Nope, that was all a govt screw up, and it all started because Flint didn't have enough money to keep paying Detroit for their water because of underfunded pensions for city workers.  And so the local elected representatives (Democrats), made a HORRIBLE decision to use old pipes and make their own water to save some money.  I understand some people just want to blame the state of Michigan, and they certainly played their role poorly after the situation was created, but it was the local govt that initiated the fiasco.
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