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« Reply #700 on: September 04, 2022, 04:47:32 PM »

Could've conceded a few weeks ago, would've saved everyone a lot of time which should've been put to better use.

Removing one month to the term of the crazy anti-worker lady was the best thing he could do.

Putting it off won't change the inevitable looming disaster
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« Reply #701 on: September 04, 2022, 04:48:43 PM »

Didn’t Sunak (and the rest) have to sign a pledge saying they wouldn’t withdraw without a members vote? I know it was mooted during the parliamentary stage.
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« Reply #702 on: September 05, 2022, 03:17:23 AM »

What would Nate Silver put Truss's odds at right now? >99%?
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« Reply #703 on: September 05, 2022, 06:18:41 AM »

About a quarter of an hour to go - everyone on the edge of their seats?
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« Reply #704 on: September 05, 2022, 06:38:47 AM »

81,326 Liz Truss
60,399 Rishi Sunak
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« Reply #705 on: September 05, 2022, 06:44:20 AM »

This doesn't look like the landslide everyone was expecting.
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« Reply #706 on: September 05, 2022, 06:44:50 AM »

57% isn't that strong of a mandate and a bit below late expectations, but Sunak also embarrassed himself by not even coming that close to winning after years of hype for him. He could easily fly off to California now. It is hard to see how this leadership election helped the Tories, even though Boris was so unpopular at the end.
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« Reply #707 on: September 05, 2022, 06:46:30 AM »

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"(...) and we will deliver a great victory for the Conservative Party in 2024."

So, no snap election then. (lets see how long this promise lasts)
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« Reply #708 on: September 05, 2022, 06:49:19 AM »

This doesn't look like the landslide everyone was expecting.
The media is pointing that out, that it was a somewhat disappointing result for her. It was expected a 65-66% share for her.
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« Reply #709 on: September 05, 2022, 06:50:50 AM »

She'll be gone by the locals.
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« Reply #710 on: September 05, 2022, 06:52:24 AM »

So Truss won a smaller portion of the vote than Johnson and Cameron (who got 2/3s of the vote), or IDS (who got 60%). Unlike Howard or May, she did face the party electorate - but still, not the landslide that was suggested.

If you’d asked me the margin yesterday, I’d have guessed she’d at least have cracked 60%.
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« Reply #711 on: September 05, 2022, 07:01:14 AM »


Or alternatively, not long after them.

If she does indeed intend to nick Labour's energy plan, that may provide some short term respite.
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« Reply #712 on: September 05, 2022, 07:04:56 AM »

I doubt Sunak could have won given his anti-Boris actions were poison for a substantial share of the selectorate, but I do wonder how close he could have gotten given the contest was written off as an inevitable Truss victory weeks ago.
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« Reply #713 on: September 05, 2022, 08:18:11 AM »

My calculation:

Sunak: 132
Truss: 116
Mordaunt: 108


Reality:

Sunak: 137
Truss: 113
Mordaunt: 105

To me this suggests there was no funny business.

Tbh, whilst the polls for Sunak don't look great at the moment, I think both Truss and Mordaunt are eminently beatable for him in the membership vote, particularly given a month long hustings. Mordaunt more so perhaps, as if you're on the right then there really isn't any especially good reason to vote for her over Sunak, but I don't necessarily think that Truss' right-wing posturing is the advantage that some assume it to be, given that the party membership has tended to back the more 'electable' candidate in past contests (with the exception of IDS vs Clarke in 2001).

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You lost, Cassius. The new regime will purge you and your gang.

Oh what horrors await you at a gulag in Sunderland.
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« Reply #714 on: September 05, 2022, 08:50:04 AM »

Rejoice! For now every child will know the taste of a British apple!
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« Reply #715 on: September 05, 2022, 04:10:09 PM »

My calculation:

Sunak: 132
Truss: 116
Mordaunt: 108


Reality:

Sunak: 137
Truss: 113
Mordaunt: 105

To me this suggests there was no funny business.

Tbh, whilst the polls for Sunak don't look great at the moment, I think both Truss and Mordaunt are eminently beatable for him in the membership vote, particularly given a month long hustings. Mordaunt more so perhaps, as if you're on the right then there really isn't any especially good reason to vote for her over Sunak, but I don't necessarily think that Truss' right-wing posturing is the advantage that some assume it to be, given that the party membership has tended to back the more 'electable' candidate in past contests (with the exception of IDS vs Clarke in 2001).

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You lost, Cassius. The new regime will purge you and your gang.

Oh what horrors await you at a gulag in Sunderland.


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« Reply #716 on: September 07, 2022, 09:41:56 AM »

Not that much commented on, but the number of spoiled ballots was notably low given the very vocal "show your support for BoJo" campaign in certain parts of the right wing media and Twittersphere.
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