Opinion of headlines / articles like the following?

[MiddleRoad]

Opinion of headlines and articles like this?


https://grist.org/ask-umbra-series/are-white-people-bad-for-the-environment/

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/09/873375416/there-is-no-neutral-nice-white-people-can-still-be-complicit-in-a-racist-society

https://time.com/6145211/white-people-tough-conversations-race/

https://www.washingtoninformer.com/muhammad-are-white-people-evil-or-do-they-just-hate-us/

What is your opinion of headlines and articles like this?

[Damocles]

Salon moment.

[TPIG]

The ramblings of a subset of cosmopolitan liberals more concerned with making white Americans feel guilty than trying to build any sort of united front against racism. This is the kind of stuff that makes the reptilian part of my brain want to watch Tucker Carlson and engage in the bitterness. Thank God for pre-frontal cortexes.

[Hammy]

It's always that same third of the country, every single polls.

It's always deeply ironic that the people who have centered their entire identity around " your feelings" and "triggering the libs" for the last decade get mad about some slightly unflattering headlines that have varying degrees of truth to them.

Light years better than what these same people who claim to be under attack are saying about, and doing against, the most vulnerable among the population.

[MiddleRoad]

It's always that same third of the country, every single polls.

It's always deeply ironic that the people who have centered their entire identity around " your feelings" and "triggering the libs" for the last decade get mad about some slightly unflattering headlines that have varying degrees of truth to them.

Light years better than what these same people who claim to be under attack are saying about, and doing against, the most vulnerable among the population.

Okay, let’s deconstruct this.

Saying things like “white men must be stopped: the future of mankind depends on it” and questioning whether “white people are bad for the environment” is only “slightly unflattering.” It’s not at all dehumanizing or perhaps encouraging bigotry? Not at all? Not in the slightest?

Also, why do you assume I personally as a white male am guilty of “saying bad things about” and doing harm to “the most vulnerable of the population”? I feel like you’re saying that from a place of disdain for white people

So I’m going to end this by saying the following

I feel bad slavery happened, but I am not responsible or guilty for it

I feel bad that Jim Crow happened, but I am not and will not be held responsible or feel guilt for it

As a worker making about 20,000k a year and subsisting on Medicaid and struggling with bills monthly, I do not see myself as being privileged. I have not gotten jobs that a minority might not have, I have not personally gotten anything for being white

I think the Klan are/were bad people, but I do not bear responsibility for their acts

I have nothing against any one of any race, and wish people of others race had nothing against me

I have never mistreated a person for any reason related to race, gender, ethnic origin, or creed (or lack thereof)

It is not me, and I will not be held guilty for the actions of others simply because my skin is the same color as theirs.

[Hammy]

It's always that same third of the country, every single polls.

It's always deeply ironic that the people who have centered their entire identity around " your feelings" and "triggering the libs" for the last decade get mad about some slightly unflattering headlines that have varying degrees of truth to them.

Light years better than what these same people who claim to be under attack are saying about, and doing against, the most vulnerable among the population.

Okay, let’s deconstruct this.

Saying things like “white men must be stopped: the future of mankind depends on it” and questioning whether “white people are bad for the environment” is only “slightly unflattering.” It’s not at all dehumanizing or perhaps encouraging bigotry? Not at all? Not in the slightest?

Also, why do you assume I personally as a white male am guilty of “saying bad things about” and doing harm to “the most vulnerable of the population”? I feel like you’re saying that from a place of disdain for white people

So I’m going to end this by saying the following

I feel bad slavery happened, but I am not responsible or guilty for it

I feel bad that Jim Crow happened, but I am not and will not be held responsible or feel guilt for it

As a worker making about 20,000k a year and subsisting on Medicaid and struggling with bills monthly, I do not see myself as being privileged. I have not gotten jobs that a minority might not have, I have not personally gotten anything for being white

I think the Klan are/were bad people, but I do not bear responsibility for their acts

I have nothing against any one of any race, and wish people of others race had nothing against me

I have never mistreated a person for any reason related to race, gender, ethnic origin, or creed (or lack thereof)

It is not me, and I will not be held guilty for the actions of others simply because my skin is the same color as theirs.

White privilege isn't simply about financial situation but a larger societal problem (and we're in similar financial situations here and I am also white, before you ask) and does not mean every single white person has it easy but rather additional challenges that are faced by minorities that whites don't.

A white man can carry an automatic weapon around in public, for instance, but a black man would instantly prompt calls to the police--even if they aren't armed.

A white man driving an expensive job or having a well paying job does not raise suspicion of how they got it like a black man would--an expensive car would automatically be assumed to be from drug profit, a well paying job would be dismissed as unearned and purely a result of affirmative action. A majority white school district that receives a failing grade would be looked at as having a few bad apples dragging down the overall score, where a black school district would receive less funding.

These are problems, and while they aren't things that literally every white person is personally contributing to, they are still race-based institutional problems (and why things like education on biases are important)

Acknowledging a problem exists, and working to remedy it within whatever capacity you're able to, is not "being held guilty", it's what a functioning society does, whether one is personally part of the problem or not--our ancestors are not here to clean up the mess they made, so it's on our generation to step in and help where we can.

Regarding the two bolded headlines: The first had more context in the sub-headline (though possibly one of the worst worded opinion headlines that's out there) and the second is nowhere to be found from what I could see so I'm not where that one came from.

[DaleCooper]

All it does it divide our country even further.

[MiddleRoad]

It's always that same third of the country, every single polls.

It's always deeply ironic that the people who have centered their entire identity around " your feelings" and "triggering the libs" for the last decade get mad about some slightly unflattering headlines that have varying degrees of truth to them.

Light years better than what these same people who claim to be under attack are saying about, and doing against, the most vulnerable among the population.

Okay, let’s deconstruct this.

Saying things like “white men must be stopped: the future of mankind depends on it” and questioning whether “white people are bad for the environment” is only “slightly unflattering.” It’s not at all dehumanizing or perhaps encouraging bigotry? Not at all? Not in the slightest?

Also, why do you assume I personally as a white male am guilty of “saying bad things about” and doing harm to “the most vulnerable of the population”? I feel like you’re saying that from a place of disdain for white people

So I’m going to end this by saying the following

I feel bad slavery happened, but I am not responsible or guilty for it

I feel bad that Jim Crow happened, but I am not and will not be held responsible or feel guilt for it

As a worker making about 20,000k a year and subsisting on Medicaid and struggling with bills monthly, I do not see myself as being privileged. I have not gotten jobs that a minority might not have, I have not personally gotten anything for being white

I think the Klan are/were bad people, but I do not bear responsibility for their acts

I have nothing against any one of any race, and wish people of others race had nothing against me

I have never mistreated a person for any reason related to race, gender, ethnic origin, or creed (or lack thereof)

It is not me, and I will not be held guilty for the actions of others simply because my skin is the same color as theirs.

White privilege isn't simply about financial situation but a larger societal problem (and we're in similar financial situations here and I am also white, before you ask) and does not mean every single white person has it easy but rather additional challenges that are faced by minorities that whites don't.

A white man can carry an automatic weapon around in public, for instance, but a black man would instantly prompt calls to the police--even if they aren't armed.

A white man driving an expensive job or having a well paying job does not raise suspicion of how they got it like a black man would--an expensive car would automatically be assumed to be from drug profit, a well paying job would be dismissed as unearned and purely a result of affirmative action. A majority white school district that receives a failing grade would be looked at as having a few bad apples dragging down the overall score, where a black school district would receive less funding.

These are problems, and while they aren't things that literally every white person is personally contributing to, they are still race-based institutional problems (and why things like education on biases are important)

Acknowledging a problem exists, and working to remedy it within whatever capacity you're able to, is not "being held guilty", it's what a functioning society does, whether one is personally part of the problem or not--our ancestors are not here to clean up the mess they made, so it's on our generation to step in and help where we can.

Regarding the two bolded headlines: The first had more context in the sub-headline (though possibly one of the worst worded opinion headlines that's out there) and the second is nowhere to be found from what I could see so I'm not where that one came from.

Ill go further. I can’t even legally buy a gun, because I am mentally ill; I have never been committed, but I take medication for anxiety, which means I will never be able to legally own a weapon

As far as your assertions about rich black people, what does it matter what a bigoted minority think? This is 2022, not 1956; the majority of people aren’t racist anymore. There is a minority that is merely loud and vocal about it. But they are a minority and dying out with time

I’ve been raised in NYC all my life. The benefit of being here is most New Yorkers aren’t black or white or any other race; we’re New Yorkers equally struggling together.

My contribution to life’s problems is to treat every person accordingly as they treat me. Being decent to people regardless of what they are, as opposed to who they are, is what I can contribute to fix things now. And that is the length and breadth of it. And that is the length and breadth of what should be expected from me.

[Mr. Reactionary]

White privilege isn't real simply about financial situation but a larger societal problem (and we're in similar financial situations here and I am also white, before you ask) and does not mean every single white person has it easy but rather additional challenges that are faced by minorities that whites don't.

[Ferguson97]

White privilege isn't real simply about financial situation but a larger societal problem (and we're in similar financial situations here and I am also white, before you ask) and does not mean every single white person has it easy but rather additional challenges that are faced by minorities that whites don't.

So do you just reject the realities about everything related to politics? How can you deny that there are disparities in how nonwhites are treated in this country compared to whites?

[Old Man Willow]

White privilege isn't real simply about financial situation but a larger societal problem (and we're in similar financial situations here and I am also white, before you ask) and does not mean every single white person has it easy but rather additional challenges that are faced by minorities that whites don't.

So do you just reject the realities about everything related to politics? How can you deny that there are disparities in how nonwhites are treated in this country compared to whites?

There are disparities, whites are treated as inferior.

[darklordoftech]

Filling in for Bronz, MiddleRoad?

[Mr. Reactionary]

White privilege isn't real simply about financial situation but a larger societal problem (and we're in similar financial situations here and I am also white, before you ask) and does not mean every single white person has it easy but rather additional challenges that are faced by minorities that whites don't.

So do you just reject the realities about everything related to politics? How can you deny that there are disparities in how nonwhites are treated in this country compared to whites?

Majoritarian privilege.

[Hammy]

Ill go further. I can’t even legally buy a gun, because I am mentally ill; I have never been committed, but I take medication for anxiety, which means I will never be able to legally own a weapon

That's pretty insane policy (not doubting you, but just baffled it's the case at all), especially given the number of people who are able to buy guns after having some kind of violent past, just because they're considered 'mentally healthy'

But goes to show how much mental illness is too often scapegoated by politicians

As far as your assertions about rich black people, what does it matter what a bigoted minority think? This is 2022, not 1956; the majority of people aren’t racist anymore. There is a minority that is merely loud and vocal about it. But they are a minority and dying out with time

It isn't simply people's thoughts, as the country would be a better place if people in general kept their hostile thoughts to themselves (on any topic really). Unfortunately they don't, and this often leads to aggression and unnecessary police encounters (police who, quite often, will automatically deem darker skin in itself suspicious)

One thing that seems to drive people insane the quickest is seeing somebody with something they deem is undeserved

[Ferguson97]

White privilege isn't real simply about financial situation but a larger societal problem (and we're in similar financial situations here and I am also white, before you ask) and does not mean every single white person has it easy but rather additional challenges that are faced by minorities that whites don't.

So do you just reject the realities about everything related to politics? How can you deny that there are disparities in how nonwhites are treated in this country compared to whites?

There are disparities, whites are treated as inferior.

Get off 4chan and go touch grass.

[GregTheGreat657]

It's borderline racist against white people