5 uncalled House races

[sethm0]

 Louisiana 2: A Dem hold, of course. Are we sure that Jefferson is toast?

 Texas 23: Could Democrats steal this one? This race seems like the biggest remaining question mark.

 Florida 13: When are the recount results due? Any chance of a Dem miracle?

 Ohio 2 and 15: Is it merely formality at this point? Two defininte GOP holds? When will these be certified?
 

[sethm0]

 LA 2 and TX 23 are runoffs.

 And arent the Ohio races autmoatic recounts?

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OH-02 is over.
OH-15 is probably close to over.
TX-23, and LA-02 are runoffs.
FL-13 was stolen.

[Sam Spade]

OH-02 and OH-15 are having automatic recounts that are going on right now, but the chances of them changing anything is pretty much nil.

FL-13 is going to court.

TX-23 is pretty much all about turnout.  There has to be much greater turnout out of South Side Bexar than I would normally expect in a runoff in order for Ciro to stand a chance.  Basically, Ciro has to win Bexar County (and probably by say a 55%-45% margin) in order to win, because I can pretty much guarantee that Ciro isn't going to win in the rural border counties, he's just not a good candidate for out there, whereas Bonilla is probably about the best Republican candidate you can put out there for those areas.

LA-02:  I have no idea about this one.

[Adlai Stevenson]

I think Karen Carter is likely to beat Jefferson in the LA-2 runoff. 

[Deano963]

 Louisiana 2: A Dem hold, of course. Are we sure that Jefferson is toast?

 Texas 23: Could Democrats steal this one? This race seems like the biggest remaining question mark.

 Florida 13: When are the recount results due? Any chance of a Dem miracle?

 Ohio 2 and 15: Is it merely formality at this point? Two defininte GOP holds? When will these be certified?
 

this is what  makes me angry about dems.. i didn't see any republicans contest close results where a DEM won this year.

Good job propagating the myth that Dems challenge elections results just b/c they don't like them james. Very intelligent.

LA-2 and TX-23 are runoffs......

Both OH-02 and OH-15 triggered automatic recounts, the Democrats in each race had nothing to do with it.......

And finally in FL-13 in case you haven't heard there are actually a lot of really good legitimate resoans for Jennings to be contesting the results, namely 18,000 "undervotes" which all mysteriously happened to come from the district's largest population base which voted for Jennings, and a ballot that was so terribly designed that I looked at it and didn't even see where to actually vote for the Congressional race the first couple of times. There were also many reports of people who tried to vote for Jennings but the voting machine would not accept the selection of her name.

It's important to note tha neither Jennings nor any Democrats at all for that matter are claiming that the race was intentionally stolen or "fixed", just that the massive, undeniable voting machine problems and ridiculously bad ballot design and highly suspicious number of "undervotes" which would have gone in Jennings favor require that an entirely new vote take place. Any rational-minded person who cares about the integrity of the electoral process in this country who isn't a right-wing partsian hack would agree there is nothing wrong with any of these objections. If the Republicans truly feel that the people of this district voted for Buchanan, I don't understand why they are so scared of holding a new election.

[Verily]

 Louisiana 2: A Dem hold, of course. Are we sure that Jefferson is toast?

No, unfortunately, as the third-place Dem finisher has backed him. (He's bitter that Carter stole his show against Jefferson.)

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Maybe, but that's a big maybe. The combined Dem total did beat Bonilla's vote (and he was the only Republican running, along with an Independent).

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Probably not until 2007. This one is going to court because of very blatant voting irregularities.

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Automatic recounts, and Ohio is painfully slow at doing those. I don't understand why; Connecticut went plenty fast enough in CT-02, and that was closer.


Also, jamespol, none of these races are Dems being sore losers; good job sounding like an idiot.

[True Democrat]

I think one of the OH recounts was put off because of the Ohio State - Michigan game or something.  I think that's what I heard.

[HardRCafé]

There were also many reports of people who tried to vote for Jennings but the voting machine would not accept the selection of her name.

Always a good idea to wait for the election result to report this sort of thing.

If the Republicans truly feel that the people of this district voted for Buchanan, I don't understand why they are so scared of holding a new election.

Like Democrats in Washington?  Spare me.

[memphis]

I think one of the OH recounts was put off because of the Ohio State - Michigan game or something.  I think that's what I heard.

Sounds like everybody I've ever met from Ohio.

[Deano963]

There were also many reports of people who tried to vote for Jennings but the voting machine would not accept the selection of her name.

Always a good idea to wait for the election result to report this sort of thing.

Who the hell said people waited for the election results to report this? I first read about it two days after the election. Way to spew your nonsense w/out knowing the facts moron.

If the Republicans truly feel that the people of this district voted for Buchanan, I don't understand why they are so scared of holding a new election.

Like Democrats in Washington?  Spare me.

Wow. Great argument. Im sure you swayed a lot of people with that fact-filled argument genius.

[HardRCafé]

Wow. Great argument. Im sure you swayed a lot of people with that fact-filled argument genius.

No great argument has ever swayed you, so I learned from others' mistakes and put the time to better use.

I notice you are incapable of even explaining the weak argument away.

[12th Doctor]

 Louisiana 2: A Dem hold, of course. Are we sure that Jefferson is toast?

 Texas 23: Could Democrats steal this one? This race seems like the biggest remaining question mark.

 Florida 13: When are the recount results due? Any chance of a Dem miracle?

 Ohio 2 and 15: Is it merely formality at this point? Two defininte GOP holds? When will these be certified?
 

this is what  makes me angry about dems.. i didn't see any republicans contest close results where a DEM won this year.

They just want to make sure that every Democrat vote is counted (in the final result) as many times as possible

[jimrtex]

Texas 23: Could Democrats steal this one? This race seems like the biggest remaining question mark.

Maybe, but that's a big maybe. The combined Dem total did beat Bonilla's vote (and he was the only Republican running, along with an Independent).

If the same voters show up, Rodriguez has to collect literally 99.9% of the vote from the other Democrats candidates and 1/2 the vote from the independent.  Given that the the independent was one of two Anglo candidates, that doesn't seem likely.  Nor is it likely that Rodriguez will get all the votes of those who voted for Gilliland, who dumped a lot of his own money into the race.

[ag]

Texas 23: Could Democrats steal this one? This race seems like the biggest remaining question mark.

Maybe, but that's a big maybe. The combined Dem total did beat Bonilla's vote (and he was the only Republican running, along with an Independent).

If the same voters show up, Rodriguez has to collect literally 99.9% of the vote from the other Democrats candidates and 1/2 the vote from the independent.  Given that the the independent was one of two Anglo candidates, that doesn't seem likely.  Nor is it likely that Rodriguez will get all the votes of those who voted for Gilliland, who dumped a lot of his own money into the race.

This is, most likely, a Rep hold, but Dems do have another chance, even besides the turnout. There are peopole out there in every election who prefer to be in the majority.  One can plausibly imagine some voters here thinking they'd rather have a majority member representing them and switching in the run off, once the majority is clear. Still, slim chance it is.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I think Jennings won, but she's making the same mistake Gore made; not calling for a full recount.  Also candidates should pay for as much of the recount as they can without endangering themselves fiancially (usally all of it).  BTW, CNN hasn't updated there site to show that the Kilroy-Pryce recount included all of Franklin County and showed that Shamansky actually won there.

[Deano963]

Wow. Great argument. Im sure you swayed a lot of people with that fact-filled argument genius.

No great argument has ever swayed you, so I learned from others' mistakes and put the time to better use.

I notice you are incapable of even explaining the weak argument away.

You wouldn't know if any great argument has ever swayed me, b/c all you do is post post moronic, uninformed one-liners.

I notice you are incapale of providing a single fact to back up your "argument", which, again, was nothing more than a an idiotic one-liner. Go back to grade school.

[Brandon H]

In the news yesterday regarding LA - 2.
http://www.wdsu.com/news/10470980/detail.html

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No word on whether or not Carter plans to pull a Cynthia McKinney (a ridiculous bill, not shoving a security guard).

My dad said someone he knows doesn't like either candidate but will vote Jefferson in the hope he gets removed from office early.

[agcatter]

My understanding of the Florida 13 situation is that Dems actually made the argument that Jennings should actually be declared the winner based on "mathematical extrapolations" of the undervote count and the precincts they were mostly in.

Obviously, that is madness.  Not even the 2000 Florida Supreme Court would buy that one.  On second thought, that bunch probably would have.

[Sam Spade]

My understanding of the Florida 13 situation is that Dems actually made the argument that Jennings should actually be declared the winner based on "mathematical extrapolations" of the undervote count and the precincts they were mostly in.

Obviously, that is madness.  Not even the 2000 Florida Supreme Court would buy that one.  On second thought, that bunch probably would have.

That's almost as bad as some "95 heads and 5 tails argument is not significant" argument I heard quite a while ago.

[Nutmeg]

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An interesting defense in the face of (what I believe is founded) criticism.

Seems Carter would have great reason to speak on the matter given that many of her constituents likely were affected by this unscrupulous move by police.