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« on: March 16, 2022, 10:46:08 AM »

My guess would be lean Democrat overall but perhaps have trended slightly R since 9/11 because of Islamophobia.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2022, 11:12:02 AM »

I would say similarly to the Jewish vote if I had to guess . A poll of just Hindus in 2020 had it at 69-29 for Biden I believe .


Given that according to many polls that Hindus just make up half of Indian-Americans here in the US , it probably would be hard to get anywhere near an accurate estimate of how they vote .
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2022, 06:56:02 PM »

Was the most recent election in which we can probably assume Hindus voted for the Republican candidate?
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2022, 07:31:17 PM »
« Edited: March 16, 2022, 07:42:29 PM by ‎Ishan🇺🇦 »

A while back, I found this survey on how Indian Americans voted and how they view India and according to it, 67% of Indian Hindus voted for Biden.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2022, 07:39:06 AM »

There’s difficulty polling small minorities groups like this, but certainly for Biden and probably by a big margin. Hindus are one of the most prosperous immigrant groups and will have swung heavily Democratic in recent decades. While it’s hard to estimate given their lack of geographic concentration, the analysis i remember seeing post-election on Twitter (which was of Indian Americans but focusing on places where it’s essentially the same thing) suggests they don’t seem to have swung much (if at all) towards Trump in 2020 like basically every other immigrant group did.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2022, 10:42:34 AM »

Was the most recent election in which we can probably assume Hindus voted for the Republican candidate?

Probably Nixon 72 as the first wave would be the highly educated moderate types. Or maybe never? There has never been a Hindi republican in congress. The closest is Bobby Jindal, but he conveyed in high school to Christianity. So maybe never?
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2022, 02:43:27 PM »

Was the most recent election in which we can probably assume Hindus voted for the Republican candidate?

Probably Nixon 72 as the first wave would be the highly educated moderate types. Or maybe never? There has never been a Hindi republican in congress. The closest is Bobby Jindal, but he conveyed in high school to Christianity. So maybe never?
I guess Nixon 72 makes sense. McGovern would be highly unappealing for whatever Hindus were in America in 1972, so they would go for Nixon.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2022, 03:49:45 PM »

Hoboken has a substantial number of Hindus (the mayor is a Sikh), and as best I can tell, along with whites and the Chinese, they are mostly well educated and upper middle class (the median income in Hoboken is something like 170K), and vote about 70%-75% Dem, but as is also true with the rest of the upper middle class in Hoboken, tend to be fairly moderate Dems. High end data processing and marketing and finance, along with real estate development,  are not fertile seedbeds of the vanguard of the revolution.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2022, 04:54:54 PM »

Was the most recent election in which we can probably assume Hindus voted for the Republican candidate?

Probably Nixon 72 as the first wave would be the highly educated moderate types. Or maybe never? There has never been a Hindi republican in congress. The closest is Bobby Jindal, but he conveyed in high school to Christianity. So maybe never?
I guess Nixon 72 makes sense. McGovern would be highly unappealing for whatever Hindus were in America in 1972, so they would go for Nixon.

Again it’s entirely a shot in the dark. For anyone wondering the last Jews republicans voted for was Harding in 1920, with Deb’s 5% behind. According to NPR the last two elections Indian Americans voted for the dem around 70%. In my 30 second search couldn’t find data for Hindi voters
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2022, 05:01:19 PM »
« Edited: March 17, 2022, 07:32:04 PM by putang ina mo, Putin! »

Was the most recent election in which we can probably assume Hindus voted for the Republican candidate?

Probably Nixon 72 as the first wave would be the highly educated moderate types. Or maybe never? There has never been a Hindi republican in congress. The closest is Bobby Jindal, but he conveyed in high school to Christianity. So maybe never?
I guess Nixon 72 makes sense. McGovern would be highly unappealing for whatever Hindus were in America in 1972, so they would go for Nixon.
I would’ve guessed Reagan 1984 or maybe Bush 1988. Today’s Hindu American electorate is mostly comprised of people who became eligible to vote after the Cold War- although this is just based on my knowledge of immigration patterns from India.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2022, 01:25:18 PM »

I would say similarly to the Jewish vote if I had to guess . A poll of just Hindus in 2020 had it at 69-29 for Biden I believe .

Given that according to many polls that Hindus just make up half of Indian-Americans here in the US , it probably would be hard to get anywhere near an accurate estimate of how they vote .

Millennials of South Asian ancestry (of all faiths) have basically come to occupy the position in the Democratic coalition once held by Ashkenazi Jews—they have "Episcopalian incomes and Puerto Rican voting habits" as the old saying went. They were disproportionately present in the Sanders and Warren campaigns in 2020.

The older generations—the ones who came here and might have had to do unglamorous work like managing a gas station or motel, or being a doctor in some podunk rural town where they were the only nonwhite people—are dicier. But anecdotally, older Pakistanis often seem quite Republican. Maybe a holdover from the era when the party made more of a push to appeal to all "people of faith" or being suspicious of secularism or socialism as "Indian" things.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2022, 01:30:09 PM »
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I would say similarly to the Jewish vote if I had to guess . A poll of just Hindus in 2020 had it at 69-29 for Biden I believe .

Given that according to many polls that Hindus just make up half of Indian-Americans here in the US , it probably would be hard to get anywhere near an accurate estimate of how they vote .

Millennials of South Asian ancestry (of all faiths) have basically come to occupy the position in the Democratic coalition once held by Ashkenazi Jews—they have "Episcopalian incomes and Puerto Rican voting habits" as the old saying went. They were disproportionately present in the Sanders and Warren campaigns in 2020.

The older generations—the ones who came here and might have had to do unglamorous work like managing a gas station or motel, or being a doctor in some podunk rural town where they were the only nonwhite people—are dicier. But anecdotally, older Pakistanis often seem quite Republican. Maybe a holdover from the era when the party made more of a push to appeal to all "people of faith" or being suspicious of secularism or socialism as "Indian" things.

I do know many Clinton - Trump voters and pretty much all of them were very culturally conservative. Like many of them would make Fuzzy Bear look like a progressive  in comparison on many cultural issues .

Democrats going all in on cultural issues will not help them with minorities as they thought it would given the fact that their 2012 coalition comprised of having voters who very culturally conservative as well . In fact the issue with politics based on cultural issues is it’s destined to always be 50-50 
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2022, 01:43:44 PM »

I do wonder what percentage of self-identified Hindus in the U.S. are South Asian immigrants and their descendants versus New Agey "converts."

Not that impacts voting patterns too much.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2022, 02:18:58 PM »

I do wonder what percentage of self-identified Hindus in the U.S. are South Asian immigrants and their descendants versus New Agey "converts."

Not that impacts voting patterns too much.

There basically aren't any. White people get mixed up in weird pseudocults like the Maharishi Movement but that is not and never claimed to be Hinduism.

Likewise, the Zen Buddhism that White Baby Boomers often latched onto has little connection to the larger branches of Buddhism commonly practiced in Asia and in Asian-American communities. It would be like trying to lump Black Nation of Islam members in with Muslim immigrants from the Middle East and Asia.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2022, 02:23:05 PM »

I would say similarly to the Jewish vote if I had to guess . A poll of just Hindus in 2020 had it at 69-29 for Biden I believe .

Given that according to many polls that Hindus just make up half of Indian-Americans here in the US , it probably would be hard to get anywhere near an accurate estimate of how they vote .

Millennials of South Asian ancestry (of all faiths) have basically come to occupy the position in the Democratic coalition once held by Ashkenazi Jews—they have "Episcopalian incomes and Puerto Rican voting habits" as the old saying went. They were disproportionately present in the Sanders and Warren campaigns in 2020.

The older generations—the ones who came here and might have had to do unglamorous work like managing a gas station or motel, or being a doctor in some podunk rural town where they were the only nonwhite people—are dicier. But anecdotally, older Pakistanis often seem quite Republican. Maybe a holdover from the era when the party made more of a push to appeal to all "people of faith" or being suspicious of secularism or socialism as "Indian" things.

I do know many Clinton - Trump voters and pretty much all of them were very culturally conservative. Like many of them would make Fuzzy Bear look like a progressive  in comparison on many cultural issues .

Democrats going all in on cultural issues will not help them with minorities as they thought it would given the fact that their 2012 coalition comprised of having voters who very culturally conservative as well . In fact the issue with politics based on cultural issues is it’s destined to always be 50-50 

I wish Democrats would understand that 99% of American conversations about race and racism basically boil down to how Black Americans relate to White Americans, not to how all nonwhite people relate to White people.

You aren't going to get Hispanics and Asians to care about things like police brutality or mortgage discrimination because by and large those are things that happen specifically to Black People, not to everyone who isn't White.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2022, 02:32:19 PM »

I do wonder what percentage of self-identified Hindus in the U.S. are South Asian immigrants and their descendants versus New Agey "converts."

Not that impacts voting patterns too much.

There basically aren't any. White people get mixed up in weird pseudocults like the Maharishi Movement but that is not and never claimed to be Hinduism.

Likewise, the Zen Buddhism that White Baby Boomers often latched onto has little connection to the larger branches of Buddhism commonly practiced in Asia and in Asian-American communities. It would be like trying to lump Black Nation of Islam members in with Muslim immigrants from the Middle East and Asia.

Thus the scare quotes--probably most of American Hindu converts are practicing something pretty different from what most Indian Americans practice, but it's still relevant that they'll still show up as Hindus in exit polling, etc.

FWIW, it looks like around 10% of Hindus in America are converts, which is a decently substantial figure!
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2022, 02:35:58 PM »

I would say similarly to the Jewish vote if I had to guess . A poll of just Hindus in 2020 had it at 69-29 for Biden I believe .

Given that according to many polls that Hindus just make up half of Indian-Americans here in the US , it probably would be hard to get anywhere near an accurate estimate of how they vote .

Millennials of South Asian ancestry (of all faiths) have basically come to occupy the position in the Democratic coalition once held by Ashkenazi Jews—they have "Episcopalian incomes and Puerto Rican voting habits" as the old saying went. They were disproportionately present in the Sanders and Warren campaigns in 2020.

The older generations—the ones who came here and might have had to do unglamorous work like managing a gas station or motel, or being a doctor in some podunk rural town where they were the only nonwhite people—are dicier. But anecdotally, older Pakistanis often seem quite Republican. Maybe a holdover from the era when the party made more of a push to appeal to all "people of faith" or being suspicious of secularism or socialism as "Indian" things.

I do know many Clinton - Trump voters and pretty much all of them were very culturally conservative. Like many of them would make Fuzzy Bear look like a progressive  in comparison on many cultural issues .

Democrats going all in on cultural issues will not help them with minorities as they thought it would given the fact that their 2012 coalition comprised of having voters who very culturally conservative as well . In fact the issue with politics based on cultural issues is it’s destined to always be 50-50 

I wish Democrats would understand that 99% of American conversations about race and racism basically boil down to how Black Americans relate to White Americans, not to how all nonwhite people relate to White people.

You aren't going to get Hispanics and Asians to care about things like police brutality or mortgage discrimination because by and large those are things that happen specifically to Black People, not to everyone who isn't White.


The biggest issue isn’t even that but really the idea that has been pushed by progressives that if someone holds culturally conservative then that makes them a bad person . Also the whole idea of “silence is violence” was extremely alienating as well and really shows how out of touch progressives have been .


The reason social liberalism was appealing before was it was a simple message of we may not agree with each other’s cultural peoples or our lifestyles but we should be let alone to live those lifestyles and agree that these differences don’t make the other a bad person
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2022, 01:25:12 PM »

I do wonder what percentage of self-identified Hindus in the U.S. are South Asian immigrants and their descendants versus New Agey "converts."

Not that impacts voting patterns too much.

There basically aren't any. White people get mixed up in weird pseudocults like the Maharishi Movement but that is not and never claimed to be Hinduism.

Likewise, the Zen Buddhism that White Baby Boomers often latched onto has little connection to the larger branches of Buddhism commonly practiced in Asia and in Asian-American communities. It would be like trying to lump Black Nation of Islam members in with Muslim immigrants from the Middle East and Asia.

Basically yes, its statistical noise. Just for kicks, I looked up Jefferson County IA (home of "Vedic City"). They went 49.6-48.2 Trump in 2020. The neighboring counties ranged between approximately 60-75 for Trump, and Jefferson County also has people not associated with the Vedic City, so I assume the converts went for Biden (not a big surprise). If I recall, the county was also the strongest county for the Natural Law candidate in the past.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2022, 05:44:00 PM »

Was the most recent election in which we can probably assume Hindus voted for the Republican candidate?

Probably Nixon 72 as the first wave would be the highly educated moderate types. Or maybe never? There has never been a Hindi republican in congress. The closest is Bobby Jindal, but he conveyed in high school to Christianity. So maybe never?
I guess Nixon 72 makes sense. McGovern would be highly unappealing for whatever Hindus were in America in 1972, so they would go for Nixon.

Explain why?
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2022, 06:53:23 PM »

Was the most recent election in which we can probably assume Hindus voted for the Republican candidate?

Probably Nixon 72 as the first wave would be the highly educated moderate types. Or maybe never? There has never been a Hindi republican in congress. The closest is Bobby Jindal, but he conveyed in high school to Christianity. So maybe never?
I guess Nixon 72 makes sense. McGovern would be highly unappealing for whatever Hindus were in America in 1972, so they would go for Nixon.

Explain why?
My understanding was that Hindus in America in 1972 had a major SME-linked segment and would not have liked McGovern's social stances, and those would gravitate to Nixon.
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2022, 07:19:09 PM »

Was the most recent election in which we can probably assume Hindus voted for the Republican candidate?

Probably Nixon 72 as the first wave would be the highly educated moderate types. Or maybe never? There has never been a Hindi republican in congress. The closest is Bobby Jindal, but he conveyed in high school to Christianity. So maybe never?
I guess Nixon 72 makes sense. McGovern would be highly unappealing for whatever Hindus were in America in 1972, so they would go for Nixon.

Explain why?
My understanding was that Hindus in America in 1972 had a major SME-linked segment and would not have liked McGovern's social stances, and those would gravitate to Nixon.

That would imply that the very small number of Hindu Indian immigrants in the US in the 1970s would've been put off enough by Watergate to favor Carter over Ford. And subsequently turned off enough by Reagan to favor the Dems ever since.
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