The American right wing, schools, home schooling

[T'Chenka]

I saw a critique of Steven Crowder's advice to take your kids out of public school and home school them, and I remembered something. The right wing was up in arms about how closing schools was terrible for children during COVID restrictions. Some of them to this very day hold that position and are passionate about not closing schools during the next pandemic. Why do these right wingers also support - or at least not criticize - other right wingers who don't trust "liberal" public schools and home school their kids? Surely these home schooled kids are suffering all these negative side effects of not going to school that all the kids suffered during lockdowns.

Will any right wingers here come out against home schooling and other right wingers who home school their kids?

[Aurelius]

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[T'Chenka]

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I just want to understand why sometimes it's okay for kids to not go to school, but other times it's absolutely unacceptable. Maybe there's a really good reason that I haven't encountered yet, and it all makes sense. I am 100% open to that. Maybe you could enlighten me?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I advocated for keeping public schools closed so that more parents would embrace a private school or homeschooling curriculum. Obviously a homeschooling curriculum only works for parents who actively choose it, and those who had it forced upon them when the parents couldn't oversee it likely saw their kids get up to mischief and crime or at least fall behind in schools unprepared to handle remote instruction.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The Zoom schools that regular school systems foisted upon us isn't the same as real homeschooling.

Also, it's not just right-wingers who are homeschooling their kids. Regular schools have always been pretty right-wing, after all.

Homeschooling. It's not just for right-wingers anymore!

[dead0man]

1.the "right wing" isn't a monolith
2.some of them live in decent school districts, they would be more upset the schools were closed than someone who lives in a district that sucked eggs
3.some parents have a situation where homeschooling fits perfectly, for others it might be a huge pain in the ass
4.a person can both be for homeschool as an option and wanting to keep public schools open, in fact, I'd wager that's the majority opinion in this country

[Del Tachi]

Many “right wingers” elect to send their kids to public school, y’know

[DaleCooper]

I've only ever met a couple of well-adjusted homeschool kids. Most of them are socially inept, even more than their socially inept peers in public school.

[Leo]

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I just want to understand why sometimes it's okay for kids to not go to school, but other times it's absolutely unacceptable.

Home School≠Not go to school

100% Voluntary Choice≠Government Mandate

I hope that clears up that incredibly complex riddle for you.

[Leo]

I've only ever met a couple of well-adjusted homeschool kids. Most of them are socially inept, even more than their socially inept peers in public school.

That is a pretty nebulous statement.  How many home schooled children have you met?  What do you mean by socially inept?

If children spend all of their day around adults they will act a lot more mature than their peers and will appear "socially inept" to other children.  They won't necessarily know what the latest tiktok craze is nor who the Kardashians are but I view that as a positive thing.

[DaleCooper]

I've only ever met a couple of well-adjusted homeschool kids. Most of them are socially inept, even more than their socially inept peers in public school.

That is a pretty nebulous statement.  How many home schooled children have you met?  What do you mean by socially inept?

If children spend all of their day around adults they will act a lot more mature than their peers and will appear "socially inept" to other children.  They won't necessarily know what the latest tiktok craze is nor who the Kardashians are but I view that as a positive thing.

I probably met close to if not more than 100 homeschool kids when I was growing up. I was around them all the time, actually, and almost all of them found it incredibly difficult to act like a normal person around other children, particularly children they didn't know, and they just generally seemed to struggle without their mothers around. Sure, they may be sheltered from stupid sh-t on social media, but that's not because they've been raised to reject that crap, it's just because their parents have sheltered them from it. At least if they go to public school and like the Kardashians then they may get made fun of for it.

[Badger]

I've only ever met a couple of well-adjusted homeschool kids. Most of them are socially inept, even more than their socially inept peers in public school.

That is a pretty nebulous statement.  How many home schooled children have you met?  What do you mean by socially inept?

If children spend all of their day around adults they will act a lot more mature than their peers and will appear "socially inept" to other children.  They won't necessarily know what the latest tiktok craze is nor who the Kardashians are but I view that as a positive thing.

Home-schooled kids are more likely to be online and the like, and thus are probably somewhat more likely to have the latest TMZ BS updates about the Kardashians etc. than non-homeschooled kids playing after school with their classmates.

[Ferguson97]

Homeschooling should be banned nationwide.

[Badger]

Homeschooling should be banned nationwide.

Whaaa?

[T'Chenka]

Many “right wingers” elect to send their kids to public school, y’know

I never claimed otherwise. They send them yes, and they freaked out when the schools closed during lockdowns.

[T'Chenka]

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I just want to understand why sometimes it's okay for kids to not go to school, but other times it's absolutely unacceptable.

Home School≠Not go to school

100% Voluntary Choice≠Government Mandate

I hope that clears up that incredibly complex riddle for you.

At the time, the outrage and arguments being made had nothing to do choice / freedom and everything to do with all of negative effects on children of not having teachers and classmates (both social and educational negative effects). So this actually clears up nothing.

[Horus]

Homeschooling should be banned nationwide.

Whaaa?

That's how it is in Germany. Sensible if you ask me.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Homeschooling should be banned nationwide.

This would put more stress on public schools.

Homeschooling is not simply a convenient alternative for rich people, so (unlike e.g. private schools) there's little room for its existence damaging the quality of public school education.