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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2024, 11:30:32 PM »

If these losers were really that desperate for a safe space, why don't they crawl over towards Russia? I heard Putin was welcoming them with open arms afterall.
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2024, 06:32:08 AM »

The scale of this project isn't terribly ambitious. It's not designed to move mass amounts of people to flip elections. It's more like an "intentional community," although without the trappings of communalism, the involved people would simply be neighbors in a new development in a rural area. One can only wonder what will happen from a small concentration of right-wingers, but I doubt it'll amount to much.

If these losers were really that desperate for a safe space, why don't they crawl over towards Russia? I heard Putin was welcoming them with open arms afterall.

because Russia sucks, and it'd be an extreme inconvenience to move there
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2024, 12:06:24 PM »

  As always start by attacking the most vulnerable or marginalized groups, that is how fascists operate.


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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2024, 12:58:26 PM »

It’s hard to imagine the area they’re targeting getting more far right than it already is.


In all likelihood this kind of influx will result in the locals moving to the left.
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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2024, 11:42:43 PM »

There is no longer an “Alt” in the “Alt Right.”

It is now the default, the definition.
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2024, 11:22:08 PM »

It would actually be pretty funny if Republican self-sorting gets to a point where they start to pack themselves into states/districts making it harder to win elections nationally.

Overall though I think the number of people who move for political reasons is a pretty small and privileged minority, but some people may consider politics in where they don't want to live; a right-wing religious gun owner who's decently engaged politically would probably not choose to move to Cali voluntarily for instance.

Agreed, lmao. The GOP immigration into FL is politically problematic, but as for ID and KY, they can go right ahead as far as I'm concerned. Only possible way it could backfire is if enough of them move to get ID a 3rd district (tbf I think it's gaining one soon enough anyway).
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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2024, 12:01:49 AM »

It would actually be pretty funny if Republican self-sorting gets to a point where they start to pack themselves into states/districts making it harder to win elections nationally.

Overall though I think the number of people who move for political reasons is a pretty small and privileged minority, but some people may consider politics in where they don't want to live; a right-wing religious gun owner who's decently engaged politically would probably not choose to move to Cali voluntarily for instance.

Agreed, lmao. The GOP immigration into FL is politically problematic, but as for ID and KY, they can go right ahead as far as I'm concerned. Only possible way it could backfire is if enough of them move to get ID a 3rd district (tbf I think it's gaining one soon enough anyway).

Rmbr though ID has an independent commission that can’t be repealed by the legislature. A 3rd district would very likely be a swingy or D leaning seat in the Boise area (that’s ofc unless they get enough people to start shifting Ada County right again)
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« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2024, 12:04:16 AM »

It would actually be pretty funny if Republican self-sorting gets to a point where they start to pack themselves into states/districts making it harder to win elections nationally.

Overall though I think the number of people who move for political reasons is a pretty small and privileged minority, but some people may consider politics in where they don't want to live; a right-wing religious gun owner who's decently engaged politically would probably not choose to move to Cali voluntarily for instance.

Agreed, lmao. The GOP immigration into FL is politically problematic, but as for ID and KY, they can go right ahead as far as I'm concerned. Only possible way it could backfire is if enough of them move to get ID a 3rd district (tbf I think it's gaining one soon enough anyway).

Rmbr though ID has an independent commission that can’t be repealed by the legislature. A 3rd district would very likely be a swingy or D leaning seat in the Boise area (that’s ofc unless they get enough people to start shifting Ada County right again)
A 3rd seat would be swingy but it would still be a hard lift for Ds, given Ada had to be paired with heavily R areas nearby.
On a 4 seat map though it becomes far likelier you get a strong D seat.
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« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2024, 12:42:41 AM »

It would actually be pretty funny if Republican self-sorting gets to a point where they start to pack themselves into states/districts making it harder to win elections nationally.

Overall though I think the number of people who move for political reasons is a pretty small and privileged minority, but some people may consider politics in where they don't want to live; a right-wing religious gun owner who's decently engaged politically would probably not choose to move to Cali voluntarily for instance.

Agreed, lmao. The GOP immigration into FL is politically problematic, but as for ID and KY, they can go right ahead as far as I'm concerned. Only possible way it could backfire is if enough of them move to get ID a 3rd district (tbf I think it's gaining one soon enough anyway).

Rmbr though ID has an independent commission that can’t be repealed by the legislature. A 3rd district would very likely be a swingy or D leaning seat in the Boise area (that’s ofc unless they get enough people to start shifting Ada County right again)
A 3rd seat would be swingy but it would still be a hard lift for Ds, given Ada had to be paired with heavily R areas nearby.
On a 4 seat map though it becomes far likelier you get a strong D seat.

By 2030 Ada County might be D-leaning though. It along with Blaine county are like the 2 parts of ID that have had good long term shifts for Dems.
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« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2024, 12:51:41 AM »

It would actually be pretty funny if Republican self-sorting gets to a point where they start to pack themselves into states/districts making it harder to win elections nationally.

Overall though I think the number of people who move for political reasons is a pretty small and privileged minority, but some people may consider politics in where they don't want to live; a right-wing religious gun owner who's decently engaged politically would probably not choose to move to Cali voluntarily for instance.

Agreed, lmao. The GOP immigration into FL is politically problematic, but as for ID and KY, they can go right ahead as far as I'm concerned. Only possible way it could backfire is if enough of them move to get ID a 3rd district (tbf I think it's gaining one soon enough anyway).

Rmbr though ID has an independent commission that can’t be repealed by the legislature. A 3rd district would very likely be a swingy or D leaning seat in the Boise area (that’s ofc unless they get enough people to start shifting Ada County right again)
A 3rd seat would be swingy but it would still be a hard lift for Ds, given Ada had to be paired with heavily R areas nearby.
On a 4 seat map though it becomes far likelier you get a strong D seat.

By 2030 Ada County might be D-leaning though. It along with Blaine county are like the 2 parts of ID that have had good long term shifts for Dems.
That's true. I suppose it would depend on population growth trends, among other things.
District borders could also matter. If Ada isn't enough for a seat I see it borrowing from Canyon. Maybe it's all of Canyon and all of Ada except Boise. In which case Ds are unlikely to get a seat, as Boise ends up with Northern Idaho probably...a recipe for it to get drowned out.
The potential for a D seat certainly exists. But probably it's a Lean R seat and that's what Ds get. Competitive yes, Dem leaning outright? Harder.
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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2024, 03:16:33 AM »
« Edited: January 26, 2024, 03:21:07 AM by CentristRepublican »

It would actually be pretty funny if Republican self-sorting gets to a point where they start to pack themselves into states/districts making it harder to win elections nationally.

Overall though I think the number of people who move for political reasons is a pretty small and privileged minority, but some people may consider politics in where they don't want to live; a right-wing religious gun owner who's decently engaged politically would probably not choose to move to Cali voluntarily for instance.

Agreed, lmao. The GOP immigration into FL is politically problematic, but as for ID and KY, they can go right ahead as far as I'm concerned. Only possible way it could backfire is if enough of them move to get ID a 3rd district (tbf I think it's gaining one soon enough anyway).

Rmbr though ID has an independent commission that can’t be repealed by the legislature. A 3rd district would very likely be a swingy or D leaning seat in the Boise area (that’s ofc unless they get enough people to start shifting Ada County right again)

I honestly don't think that's at all likely to happen. You're really stretching it and/or assuming a dramatic leftward shift and massive population growth. At present, Ada County still has a stubborn rightward tilt, and it's more than 100k people short of its own district if ID had 3 seats. And of course, the surrounding counties are all blood red, so it only goes redder from Trump+4, to around Trump+8ish even if you throw in Blaine County (the Republican margin goes to Trump+9 at best if you instead go west into Canyon County, which would objectively form a much better COI with Boise/Ada County than a bunch of random rural counties).

A really competitive 3rd district in ID does not seem feasible. You'd need to have four for a realistic chance of breaking the all-Republican delegation.

EDIT: For a simple visual reference of what I said here see the map I just drew up.
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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2024, 10:40:47 AM »

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that a lot of the residents are going to be feds.
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