What caused Missouri to shift so much right since ca. 2008?
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2022, 02:42:25 AM »

Trudy Val isn't out of it she is the best candidate it's wave insurance but being down 11 isn't out of she has a 1/3 chance to win but if it's a blue wave she will win

We overperformed in our VBM voting it just won't be tabulated until Nov 8th but 49/38 isn't impossible to come back from if she is down that much she could be down 8 like Franken
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2022, 11:32:13 PM »

The only upside I see in Missouri is that the 2nd District might become competitive again later in the decade.
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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2022, 12:31:16 AM »

The only upside I see in Missouri is that the 2nd District might become competitive again later in the decade.

It's really funny how Dems could get a better delegation out of MO than WI, especially since the 2 most comeptative WI districts have been shifting right while MO-02 has been moving left.
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2022, 12:33:47 AM »



Not entirely done yet, but just look at how some relatively dense exurbs of St Louis are so extremely R. That also plays a role in why MO is so heavily R as most other midwestern cities either don't really have exurbs or if they do they're nowhere near as dense or R. Also Springfield and Joplin even though they smaller has some extremely R suburbs and exurbs as well.
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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2022, 05:48:15 AM »



Not entirely done yet, but just look at how some relatively dense exurbs of St Louis are so extremely R. That also plays a role in why MO is so heavily R as most other midwestern cities either don't really have exurbs or if they do they're nowhere near as dense or R. Also Springfield and Joplin even though they smaller has some extremely R suburbs and exurbs as well.

what on earth is this map
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2022, 08:31:54 AM »

Something I have noticed is that consistently Missouri rurals are insanely GOP. Even compared to all neighboring states, not just Iowa. Its honestly strange, I wonder if polarization hit Missouri hard early for some reason (although I wish that would reflect in suburbs but it doesnt)
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2022, 09:07:49 AM »

A lot of it has to do with moderates & Blue Dogs jumping ship, as well as generational change. 
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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2022, 09:30:35 AM »
« Edited: August 29, 2022, 09:38:19 AM by MarkD »

I think the issue of same-sex marriage had a lot to do with why the rural counties that used to be flexible and even D-leaning have gone so very heavily Republican.
In August, 2004, Missouri voters came out in record numbers - for a primary election - to vote on the issue of same-sex marriage as an amendment to the MO constitution. It still is a record for the number of votes cast in a Missouri primary - nearly 1.5 million. Over 70% voted "yes" to banning it, and most of the rural counties voted over 80% "yes" to banning it. At least half of all voters who were voting in the Democratic primary for Governor (incumbent Bob Holden v. Claire McCaskill), voted "yes." Don't you think the national Party's stance that, if you voted "yes," then you're a homophobe and we're going to overturn your vote via litigation in federal courts, has left a permanent alienation of rural voters who used to be Democrats from their party?
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=482534.msg8475435#msg8475435
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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2022, 09:30:47 AM »

Something I have noticed is that consistently Missouri rurals are insanely GOP. Even compared to all neighboring states, not just Iowa. Its honestly strange, I wonder if polarization hit Missouri hard early for some reason (although I wish that would reflect in suburbs but it doesnt)

Falls in a "sweet spot" of being fairly southern in many places but also having very few Black people--southern Missouri votes like Arkansas outside of the Delta. Similarly, central Missouri is similar to Western KY.
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« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2022, 10:17:15 AM »

Something I have noticed is that consistently Missouri rurals are insanely GOP. Even compared to all neighboring states, not just Iowa. Its honestly strange, I wonder if polarization hit Missouri hard early for some reason (although I wish that would reflect in suburbs but it doesnt)

This is very important. Rural Missouri now votes like KS-01. Just look at the election results map and you will be surprised about the number of Missouri counties that voted Trump>80% in 2020.
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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2022, 12:48:20 PM »

Something I have noticed is that consistently Missouri rurals are insanely GOP. Even compared to all neighboring states, not just Iowa. Its honestly strange, I wonder if polarization hit Missouri hard early for some reason (although I wish that would reflect in suburbs but it doesnt)

This is very important. Rural Missouri now votes like KS-01. Just look at the election results map and you will be surprised about the number of Missouri counties that voted Trump>80% in 2020.

They have culturally Southern rurals exceptionally far north. 
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