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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2021, 09:24:09 AM »

Would Kyle be a green avy on Talk Elections Forum?
No. I'm pretty sure he would have been a R-IL avy that has some pretty wonky beliefs

He'd join Roll Roons, RINO Tom and (arguably) Vosem.
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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2021, 09:38:48 AM »

A+ troll game. Rittenhouse is like the Michangelo of trolling

I don't think he's actually a troll, I think he's just a normal kid as far as opinions go, and I think people who either hated him or adore him are now realizing he's just a guy with no extreme political ideology. He was never trying to be some hero or martyr for the right-wing cause.

He is not "a normal kid."
Normal kids don't grab assault-style rifles, drive out of town, and plan to hang-out through all hours of the night on the streets, in an area experiencing citizen-disruptions.

Here's a question:  You've got a situation where an angry and politicized mob is demonstrating in the streets of your city.  They have made it clear that they intend to violently act out and burn things down.  They have done so in other cities.  In the face of this, the police have been ordered to Stand Down and the Governor of the state has refused to call in the National Guard to protect your business.

You, and some others like you, own lawful businesses.  These businesses are your livelihood and represent (with the possible exception of your home) the investment of your life.  If your business is burned down you may be financially ruined if insurance will not pay off your loss (assuming that you were able to be insured).  Your Governor has let you know that he is not going to do anything to prevent the damage to your property.  Your local police have stood down.

What are you to do here?  Are you to simply allow people to burn and vandalize your business, which is your livelihood?  Are you not entitled to do ANYTHING to protect your means of support for your family?  Are mobs allowed to destroy your business without ANY resistance from the business owner at times where Law Enforcement is not protecting your business?

What kind of kid is Kyle Rittenhouse?  In answering that question, I'll first correct your factual errors.  The weapon he had was not illegal for him to possess.  The weapon he had was not brought across state lines; it was in Kenosha.  Kyle Rittenhouse's home was 28 miles from Kenosha in Illnois, and his second residence was in Kenosha with his Father.  The people that crossed state lines, often with guns, were many of the rioters in Kenosha (as was the case in multiple American cities).  

What kind of kid was Kyle Rittenhouse?  "Brave" would be one word; he was willing to assist a business owner who was abandoned by his Governor and by his Police Department on the day he needed them the most in his entire life.  "Self-controlled" is another description; he did not fire his weapon, except in self-defense, and the video shows this.  Kitty Genovese could have used Kyle Rittenhouse the night she was raped and murdered while multiple people heard her cries and did nothing.  

What he was not was a "vigilante".  Vigilantes act when there is Police Protection; they operate in ways that violate Constitutional protections of people.  The fictional "Paul Kerssy" is an example of that.  Kyle Rittenhose did not violate anyone's Constitutional Rights; he rendered aid to people and he legitimately defended himself, but he did not, at any time, fire his gun at someone who was not a threat to him.  (And a jury has affirmed this.)

If the police were minutes away and THEIR life was at risk of being taken in seconds, who would the reader of this post want nearby:  Kyle Rittenhouse or a Social Workeer?  Or are people SUPPOSED to abandon a business that is their life's work to a criminal mob that has made their intent known?

I would very much like for people who read this to state exactly what business owners facing the loss of their businesses to mobs due to Police standing down and the Governor not calling the National Guard for backup.  Because if you believe that business owners should just allow the rioters to burn their businesses down and let "the system" deal with it later, please say so.  Frankly, I find it hard to see why someone would trust "the system" to "deal with it later" when the did nothing to prevent "it" from happening in the first place.

Actually, Evers called out the National Guard less than 24 hours after the shooting of Jacob Blake and over a day before Kyle Rittenhouse shot those people. There were already National Guard troops on the ground in Kenosha and there had been since the day before.

Not quite:

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/08/24/wisconsin-gov-tony-evers-calls-on-national-guard-after-police-shooting/

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Democratic Gov. Tony Evers said 125 members of the National Guard would be in Kenosha on Monday night with responsibility for “guarding infrastructure and making sure our firefighters and others involved are protected.”

They weren't there to guard the businesses of people, according to Evers.  They were there to guard "infrastructure" (i. e. public utilities and public buildings) as well as protecting "firefighters".  

Isn't that amazing.  There was no statement from Evers (who, I'm sad to say, I endorsed in 2018) about the independent businesses in Kenosha.

So what are people to do?  Let their businesses burn to the ground for lack of protection?  Lose everything because the government won't protect you?

He never said they couldn't protect private businesses. In fact, I would argue that these businesses are part of the infrastructure of the city, and even if your definition does not include the private businesses, a reasonable person would conclude that the National Guard was there to protect all of the city.
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2021, 10:10:39 AM »

A+ troll game. Rittenhouse is like the Michangelo of trolling

I don't think he's actually a troll, I think he's just a normal kid as far as opinions go, and I think people who either hated him or adore him are now realizing he's just a guy with no extreme political ideology. He was never trying to be some hero or martyr for the right-wing cause.

He is not "a normal kid."
Normal kids don't grab assault-style rifles, drive out of town, and plan to hang-out through all hours of the night on the streets, in an area experiencing citizen-disruptions.

Here's a question:  You've got a situation where an angry and politicized mob is demonstrating in the streets of your city.  They have made it clear that they intend to violently act out and burn things down.  They have done so in other cities.  In the face of this, the police have been ordered to Stand Down and the Governor of the state has refused to call in the National Guard to protect your business.

You, and some others like you, own lawful businesses.  These businesses are your livelihood and represent (with the possible exception of your home) the investment of your life.  If your business is burned down you may be financially ruined if insurance will not pay off your loss (assuming that you were able to be insured).  Your Governor has let you know that he is not going to do anything to prevent the damage to your property.  Your local police have stood down.

What are you to do here?  Are you to simply allow people to burn and vandalize your business, which is your livelihood?  Are you not entitled to do ANYTHING to protect your means of support for your family?  Are mobs allowed to destroy your business without ANY resistance from the business owner at times where Law Enforcement is not protecting your business?

What kind of kid is Kyle Rittenhouse?  In answering that question, I'll first correct your factual errors.  The weapon he had was not illegal for him to possess.  The weapon he had was not brought across state lines; it was in Kenosha.  Kyle Rittenhouse's home was 28 miles from Kenosha in Illnois, and his second residence was in Kenosha with his Father.  The people that crossed state lines, often with guns, were many of the rioters in Kenosha (as was the case in multiple American cities).  

What kind of kid was Kyle Rittenhouse?  "Brave" would be one word; he was willing to assist a business owner who was abandoned by his Governor and by his Police Department on the day he needed them the most in his entire life.  "Self-controlled" is another description; he did not fire his weapon, except in self-defense, and the video shows this.  Kitty Genovese could have used Kyle Rittenhouse the night she was raped and murdered while multiple people heard her cries and did nothing.  

What he was not was a "vigilante".  Vigilantes act when there is Police Protection; they operate in ways that violate Constitutional protections of people.  The fictional "Paul Kerssy" is an example of that.  Kyle Rittenhose did not violate anyone's Constitutional Rights; he rendered aid to people and he legitimately defended himself, but he did not, at any time, fire his gun at someone who was not a threat to him.  (And a jury has affirmed this.)

If the police were minutes away and THEIR life was at risk of being taken in seconds, who would the reader of this post want nearby:  Kyle Rittenhouse or a Social Workeer?  Or are people SUPPOSED to abandon a business that is their life's work to a criminal mob that has made their intent known?

I would very much like for people who read this to state exactly what business owners facing the loss of their businesses to mobs due to Police standing down and the Governor not calling the National Guard for backup.  Because if you believe that business owners should just allow the rioters to burn their businesses down and let "the system" deal with it later, please say so.  Frankly, I find it hard to see why someone would trust "the system" to "deal with it later" when the did nothing to prevent "it" from happening in the first place.

Actually, Evers called out the National Guard less than 24 hours after the shooting of Jacob Blake and over a day before Kyle Rittenhouse shot those people. There were already National Guard troops on the ground in Kenosha and there had been since the day before.

Not quite:

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/08/24/wisconsin-gov-tony-evers-calls-on-national-guard-after-police-shooting/

Quote
Democratic Gov. Tony Evers said 125 members of the National Guard would be in Kenosha on Monday night with responsibility for “guarding infrastructure and making sure our firefighters and others involved are protected.”

They weren't there to guard the businesses of people, according to Evers.  They were there to guard "infrastructure" (i. e. public utilities and public buildings) as well as protecting "firefighters".  

Isn't that amazing.  There was no statement from Evers (who, I'm sad to say, I endorsed in 2018) about the independent businesses in Kenosha.

So what are people to do?  Let their businesses burn to the ground for lack of protection?  Lose everything because the government won't protect you?

He never said they couldn't protect private businesses. In fact, I would argue that these businesses are part of the infrastructure of the city, and even if your definition does not include the private businesses, a reasonable person would conclude that the National Guard was there to protect all of the city.


You can argue that until the cows come home, but that's only you're definition.  It wasn't Tony Evers' definition; his sole concern was protecting government buildings, assisting law enforcement in doing that, and in ensuring that his actions did not anger the Woke Left, which were (and are) part of the political base he needs for reelection.  He's a cowardly nerd who was unwilling to do the right thing to protect ordinary law-abiding citizens and their property against a mob of vicious criminal rioters when there would be a political cost in doing so.

Tony Evers can come out from under the bed now.  Kyle Rittenhouse is a law-abiding citizen, unlike those who burned Kenosha, and unlike those that posed real and immediate threats to his life.  Tony Evers can now safely be a coward for the next 15 minutes.
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2021, 09:21:33 PM »

A+ troll game. Rittenhouse is like the Michangelo of trolling

I don't think he's actually a troll, I think he's just a normal kid as far as opinions go, and I think people who either hated him or adore him are now realizing he's just a guy with no extreme political ideology. He was never trying to be some hero or martyr for the right-wing cause.

He is not "a normal kid."
Normal kids don't grab assault-style rifles, drive out of town, and plan to hang-out through all hours of the night on the streets, in an area experiencing citizen-disruptions.

Here's a question:  You've got a situation where an angry and politicized mob is demonstrating in the streets of your city.  They have made it clear that they intend to violently act out and burn things down.  They have done so in other cities.  In the face of this, the police have been ordered to Stand Down and the Governor of the state has refused to call in the National Guard to protect your business.

You, and some others like you, own lawful businesses.  These businesses are your livelihood and represent (with the possible exception of your home) the investment of your life.  If your business is burned down you may be financially ruined if insurance will not pay off your loss (assuming that you were able to be insured).  Your Governor has let you know that he is not going to do anything to prevent the damage to your property.  Your local police have stood down.

What are you to do here?  Are you to simply allow people to burn and vandalize your business, which is your livelihood?  Are you not entitled to do ANYTHING to protect your means of support for your family?  Are mobs allowed to destroy your business without ANY resistance from the business owner at times where Law Enforcement is not protecting your business?

What kind of kid is Kyle Rittenhouse?  In answering that question, I'll first correct your factual errors.  The weapon he had was not illegal for him to possess.  The weapon he had was not brought across state lines; it was in Kenosha.  Kyle Rittenhouse's home was 28 miles from Kenosha in Illnois, and his second residence was in Kenosha with his Father.  The people that crossed state lines, often with guns, were many of the rioters in Kenosha (as was the case in multiple American cities).  

What kind of kid was Kyle Rittenhouse?  "Brave" would be one word; he was willing to assist a business owner who was abandoned by his Governor and by his Police Department on the day he needed them the most in his entire life.  "Self-controlled" is another description; he did not fire his weapon, except in self-defense, and the video shows this.  Kitty Genovese could have used Kyle Rittenhouse the night she was raped and murdered while multiple people heard her cries and did nothing.  

What he was not was a "vigilante".  Vigilantes act when there is Police Protection; they operate in ways that violate Constitutional protections of people.  The fictional "Paul Kerssy" is an example of that.  Kyle Rittenhose did not violate anyone's Constitutional Rights; he rendered aid to people and he legitimately defended himself, but he did not, at any time, fire his gun at someone who was not a threat to him.  (And a jury has affirmed this.)

If the police were minutes away and THEIR life was at risk of being taken in seconds, who would the reader of this post want nearby:  Kyle Rittenhouse or a Social Workeer?  Or are people SUPPOSED to abandon a business that is their life's work to a criminal mob that has made their intent known?

I would very much like for people who read this to state exactly what business owners facing the loss of their businesses to mobs due to Police standing down and the Governor not calling the National Guard for backup.  Because if you believe that business owners should just allow the rioters to burn their businesses down and let "the system" deal with it later, please say so.  Frankly, I find it hard to see why someone would trust "the system" to "deal with it later" when the did nothing to prevent "it" from happening in the first place.

Actually, Evers called out the National Guard less than 24 hours after the shooting of Jacob Blake and over a day before Kyle Rittenhouse shot those people. There were already National Guard troops on the ground in Kenosha and there had been since the day before.

Not quite:

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/08/24/wisconsin-gov-tony-evers-calls-on-national-guard-after-police-shooting/

Quote
Democratic Gov. Tony Evers said 125 members of the National Guard would be in Kenosha on Monday night with responsibility for “guarding infrastructure and making sure our firefighters and others involved are protected.”

They weren't there to guard the businesses of people, according to Evers.  They were there to guard "infrastructure" (i. e. public utilities and public buildings) as well as protecting "firefighters".  

Isn't that amazing.  There was no statement from Evers (who, I'm sad to say, I endorsed in 2018) about the independent businesses in Kenosha.

So what are people to do?  Let their businesses burn to the ground for lack of protection?  Lose everything because the government won't protect you?

He never said they couldn't protect private businesses. In fact, I would argue that these businesses are part of the infrastructure of the city, and even if your definition does not include the private businesses, a reasonable person would conclude that the National Guard was there to protect all of the city.


You can argue that until the cows come home, but that's only you're definition.  It wasn't Tony Evers' definition; his sole concern was protecting government buildings, assisting law enforcement in doing that, and in ensuring that his actions did not anger the Woke Left, which were (and are) part of the political base he needs for reelection.  He's a cowardly nerd who was unwilling to do the right thing to protect ordinary law-abiding citizens and their property against a mob of vicious criminal rioters when there would be a political cost in doing so.

Tony Evers can come out from under the bed now.  Kyle Rittenhouse is a law-abiding citizen, unlike those who burned Kenosha, and unlike those that posed real and immediate threats to his life.  Tony Evers can now safely be a coward for the next 15 minutes.


Where did he say "government buildings" in the statement?
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2021, 09:27:50 PM »

A+ troll game. Rittenhouse is like the Michangelo of trolling

I don't think he's actually a troll, I think he's just a normal kid as far as opinions go, and I think people who either hated him or adore him are now realizing he's just a guy with no extreme political ideology. He was never trying to be some hero or martyr for the right-wing cause.

He is not "a normal kid."
Normal kids don't grab assault-style rifles, drive out of town, and plan to hang-out through all hours of the night on the streets, in an area experiencing citizen-disruptions.

Here's a question:  You've got a situation where an angry and politicized mob is demonstrating in the streets of your city.  They have made it clear that they intend to violently act out and burn things down.  They have done so in other cities.  In the face of this, the police have been ordered to Stand Down and the Governor of the state has refused to call in the National Guard to protect your business.

You, and some others like you, own lawful businesses.  These businesses are your livelihood and represent (with the possible exception of your home) the investment of your life.  If your business is burned down you may be financially ruined if insurance will not pay off your loss (assuming that you were able to be insured).  Your Governor has let you know that he is not going to do anything to prevent the damage to your property.  Your local police have stood down.

What are you to do here?  Are you to simply allow people to burn and vandalize your business, which is your livelihood?  Are you not entitled to do ANYTHING to protect your means of support for your family?  Are mobs allowed to destroy your business without ANY resistance from the business owner at times where Law Enforcement is not protecting your business?

What kind of kid is Kyle Rittenhouse?  In answering that question, I'll first correct your factual errors.  The weapon he had was not illegal for him to possess.  The weapon he had was not brought across state lines; it was in Kenosha.  Kyle Rittenhouse's home was 28 miles from Kenosha in Illnois, and his second residence was in Kenosha with his Father.  The people that crossed state lines, often with guns, were many of the rioters in Kenosha (as was the case in multiple American cities).  

What kind of kid was Kyle Rittenhouse?  "Brave" would be one word; he was willing to assist a business owner who was abandoned by his Governor and by his Police Department on the day he needed them the most in his entire life.  "Self-controlled" is another description; he did not fire his weapon, except in self-defense, and the video shows this.  Kitty Genovese could have used Kyle Rittenhouse the night she was raped and murdered while multiple people heard her cries and did nothing.  

What he was not was a "vigilante".  Vigilantes act when there is Police Protection; they operate in ways that violate Constitutional protections of people.  The fictional "Paul Kerssy" is an example of that.  Kyle Rittenhose did not violate anyone's Constitutional Rights; he rendered aid to people and he legitimately defended himself, but he did not, at any time, fire his gun at someone who was not a threat to him.  (And a jury has affirmed this.)

If the police were minutes away and THEIR life was at risk of being taken in seconds, who would the reader of this post want nearby:  Kyle Rittenhouse or a Social Workeer?  Or are people SUPPOSED to abandon a business that is their life's work to a criminal mob that has made their intent known?

I would very much like for people who read this to state exactly what business owners facing the loss of their businesses to mobs due to Police standing down and the Governor not calling the National Guard for backup.  Because if you believe that business owners should just allow the rioters to burn their businesses down and let "the system" deal with it later, please say so.  Frankly, I find it hard to see why someone would trust "the system" to "deal with it later" when the did nothing to prevent "it" from happening in the first place.

Actually, Evers called out the National Guard less than 24 hours after the shooting of Jacob Blake and over a day before Kyle Rittenhouse shot those people. There were already National Guard troops on the ground in Kenosha and there had been since the day before.

Not quite:

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/08/24/wisconsin-gov-tony-evers-calls-on-national-guard-after-police-shooting/

Quote
Democratic Gov. Tony Evers said 125 members of the National Guard would be in Kenosha on Monday night with responsibility for “guarding infrastructure and making sure our firefighters and others involved are protected.”

They weren't there to guard the businesses of people, according to Evers.  They were there to guard "infrastructure" (i. e. public utilities and public buildings) as well as protecting "firefighters".  

Isn't that amazing.  There was no statement from Evers (who, I'm sad to say, I endorsed in 2018) about the independent businesses in Kenosha.

So what are people to do?  Let their businesses burn to the ground for lack of protection?  Lose everything because the government won't protect you?

He never said they couldn't protect private businesses. In fact, I would argue that these businesses are part of the infrastructure of the city, and even if your definition does not include the private businesses, a reasonable person would conclude that the National Guard was there to protect all of the city.


You can argue that until the cows come home, but that's only you're definition.  It wasn't Tony Evers' definition; his sole concern was protecting government buildings, assisting law enforcement in doing that, and in ensuring that his actions did not anger the Woke Left, which were (and are) part of the political base he needs for reelection.  He's a cowardly nerd who was unwilling to do the right thing to protect ordinary law-abiding citizens and their property against a mob of vicious criminal rioters when there would be a political cost in doing so.

Tony Evers can come out from under the bed now.  Kyle Rittenhouse is a law-abiding citizen, unlike those who burned Kenosha, and unlike those that posed real and immediate threats to his life.  Tony Evers can now safely be a coward for the next 15 minutes.


Where did he say "government buildings" in the statement?


Read between the lines; it's implicit in this.
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2021, 09:33:05 PM »

A+ troll game. Rittenhouse is like the Michangelo of trolling

I don't think he's actually a troll, I think he's just a normal kid as far as opinions go, and I think people who either hated him or adore him are now realizing he's just a guy with no extreme political ideology. He was never trying to be some hero or martyr for the right-wing cause.

He is not "a normal kid."
Normal kids don't grab assault-style rifles, drive out of town, and plan to hang-out through all hours of the night on the streets, in an area experiencing citizen-disruptions.

Here's a question:  You've got a situation where an angry and politicized mob is demonstrating in the streets of your city.  They have made it clear that they intend to violently act out and burn things down.  They have done so in other cities.  In the face of this, the police have been ordered to Stand Down and the Governor of the state has refused to call in the National Guard to protect your business.

You, and some others like you, own lawful businesses.  These businesses are your livelihood and represent (with the possible exception of your home) the investment of your life.  If your business is burned down you may be financially ruined if insurance will not pay off your loss (assuming that you were able to be insured).  Your Governor has let you know that he is not going to do anything to prevent the damage to your property.  Your local police have stood down.

What are you to do here?  Are you to simply allow people to burn and vandalize your business, which is your livelihood?  Are you not entitled to do ANYTHING to protect your means of support for your family?  Are mobs allowed to destroy your business without ANY resistance from the business owner at times where Law Enforcement is not protecting your business?

What kind of kid is Kyle Rittenhouse?  In answering that question, I'll first correct your factual errors.  The weapon he had was not illegal for him to possess.  The weapon he had was not brought across state lines; it was in Kenosha.  Kyle Rittenhouse's home was 28 miles from Kenosha in Illnois, and his second residence was in Kenosha with his Father.  The people that crossed state lines, often with guns, were many of the rioters in Kenosha (as was the case in multiple American cities).  

What kind of kid was Kyle Rittenhouse?  "Brave" would be one word; he was willing to assist a business owner who was abandoned by his Governor and by his Police Department on the day he needed them the most in his entire life.  "Self-controlled" is another description; he did not fire his weapon, except in self-defense, and the video shows this.  Kitty Genovese could have used Kyle Rittenhouse the night she was raped and murdered while multiple people heard her cries and did nothing.  

What he was not was a "vigilante".  Vigilantes act when there is Police Protection; they operate in ways that violate Constitutional protections of people.  The fictional "Paul Kerssy" is an example of that.  Kyle Rittenhose did not violate anyone's Constitutional Rights; he rendered aid to people and he legitimately defended himself, but he did not, at any time, fire his gun at someone who was not a threat to him.  (And a jury has affirmed this.)

If the police were minutes away and THEIR life was at risk of being taken in seconds, who would the reader of this post want nearby:  Kyle Rittenhouse or a Social Workeer?  Or are people SUPPOSED to abandon a business that is their life's work to a criminal mob that has made their intent known?

I would very much like for people who read this to state exactly what business owners facing the loss of their businesses to mobs due to Police standing down and the Governor not calling the National Guard for backup.  Because if you believe that business owners should just allow the rioters to burn their businesses down and let "the system" deal with it later, please say so.  Frankly, I find it hard to see why someone would trust "the system" to "deal with it later" when the did nothing to prevent "it" from happening in the first place.

Actually, Evers called out the National Guard less than 24 hours after the shooting of Jacob Blake and over a day before Kyle Rittenhouse shot those people. There were already National Guard troops on the ground in Kenosha and there had been since the day before.

Not quite:

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/08/24/wisconsin-gov-tony-evers-calls-on-national-guard-after-police-shooting/

Quote
Democratic Gov. Tony Evers said 125 members of the National Guard would be in Kenosha on Monday night with responsibility for “guarding infrastructure and making sure our firefighters and others involved are protected.”

They weren't there to guard the businesses of people, according to Evers.  They were there to guard "infrastructure" (i. e. public utilities and public buildings) as well as protecting "firefighters".  

Isn't that amazing.  There was no statement from Evers (who, I'm sad to say, I endorsed in 2018) about the independent businesses in Kenosha.

So what are people to do?  Let their businesses burn to the ground for lack of protection?  Lose everything because the government won't protect you?

He never said they couldn't protect private businesses. In fact, I would argue that these businesses are part of the infrastructure of the city, and even if your definition does not include the private businesses, a reasonable person would conclude that the National Guard was there to protect all of the city.


You can argue that until the cows come home, but that's only you're definition.  It wasn't Tony Evers' definition; his sole concern was protecting government buildings, assisting law enforcement in doing that, and in ensuring that his actions did not anger the Woke Left, which were (and are) part of the political base he needs for reelection.  He's a cowardly nerd who was unwilling to do the right thing to protect ordinary law-abiding citizens and their property against a mob of vicious criminal rioters when there would be a political cost in doing so.

Tony Evers can come out from under the bed now.  Kyle Rittenhouse is a law-abiding citizen, unlike those who burned Kenosha, and unlike those that posed real and immediate threats to his life.  Tony Evers can now safely be a coward for the next 15 minutes.


Where did he say "government buildings" in the statement?


Read between the lines; it's implicit in this.

But is it really? Because unless you have some other source, it's starting to look like you're just putting words in his mouth.
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2021, 10:28:56 PM »

A+ troll game. Rittenhouse is like the Michangelo of trolling

I don't think he's actually a troll, I think he's just a normal kid as far as opinions go, and I think people who either hated him or adore him are now realizing he's just a guy with no extreme political ideology. He was never trying to be some hero or martyr for the right-wing cause.

I'm waiting 1 week from now when Kyle Rittenhouse announces he's transitioning from m2f. Libs will be devastated and not know how to react
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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2021, 07:43:06 AM »

A+ troll game. Rittenhouse is like the Michangelo of trolling

I don't think he's actually a troll, I think he's just a normal kid as far as opinions go, and I think people who either hated him or adore him are now realizing he's just a guy with no extreme political ideology. He was never trying to be some hero or martyr for the right-wing cause.

He is not "a normal kid."
Normal kids don't grab assault-style rifles, drive out of town, and plan to hang-out through all hours of the night on the streets, in an area experiencing citizen-disruptions.

I said "as far as opinions go."

Regardless I think you're being pretty uncharitable here. I've mostly stayed aloof of the Rittenhouse case and refrained from commenting on it but the whole "he crossed state lines!" talking point has been long discredited, given Kenosha, where he worked, was only 20 minutes away and his father lived there. And it should be noted that many of the "citizen disruptions" were from out-of-towners, such as Ziminski, Huber, and Grosskreutz.

Its very similar to the area of PA that I lived in where it was closer and easier to get to Binghamton, NY then Scranton and thus most in the area went across state lines to shop and work.
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