Republicans are the ones who use social issues as a wedge, not democrats.

[jojoju1998]

In 2012, It was Obama who ran on hiring Teachers, firefighters, ( And yes, Police Officers ). Romney said no, that we don't need more teachers, firefighters, Police officers. LESS GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kWEMk6bICQ

But somehow democrats, and progressives want to defund the Police. Look at the stats. Police departments have faced spending cuts from REPUBLICAN governors in the past.

Democrats get accused of being Pro China. But we can't forget what companies like Bain Capitol did.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCA1uDTDNDE

Immigration, Obama deported tons of migrants. HIM. Obama. And we had  a 2013 compromise that would fixed most of the issues.

[Horus]

It is pretty ironic that immigration became the number one issue of 2016, Obama did an excellent job with it. But to the activist neolibs and leftists he was the deporter in chief, and to the right he was Satan incarnate no matter what.

Both parties are obnoxious on social issues these days.

[DrScholl]

This has been clear for years, but somehow Atlas says that it's only Democrats who talk about social issues and that Republicans only discuss the economy.

[jojoju1998]

This has been clear for years, but somehow Atlas says that it's only Democrats who talk about social issues and that Republicans only discuss the economy.

And we CAN NOT FORGET that just 10 years ago, It was Republicans who wanted to crack down on Police Unions. Firefighter Unions. Teacher Unions.  We can't forget the right to work laws. We can't forget the budget cuts of 2010/2011. But oh somehow Democrats hate Police.

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/cops-firefighters-turn-on-gop-052359

" Chuck Canterbury, the national president of the Fraternal Order of Police, said his members are “shocked” by the turn of events.

“Who are these evil teachers who teach your children, these evil policemen who protect them, these evil firemen who pull them from burning buildings? When did we all become evil?” said Canterbury, whose union endorsed Bush in 2000 and 2004 and John McCain in 2008.

He is traveling the country to rally FOP members to rise up against anti-labor laws in their states or in support of their colleagues in other states. “There is going to be a backlash,” said Canterbury, a former county police officer in South Carolina. “We are going to hold them accountable.”

Already, rank-and-file police officers and firefighters who long viewed themselves as separate from the rest of the movement are carrying picket signs, signing petitions and standing side-by-side with their labor brethren."

[OSR stands with Israel]

Most culture war issues for the past 5-6 years has been basically progressives trying to move the ball in their direction on that issue and conservatives trying to preserve the status quo and since progressives control most institutions that also want to move in the same direction they do, the conservatives are treated as reactionaries even though the vast majority of the public held those same opinions a few years ago .

[Xing]

A very small number of people on the left talk about social issues in a very annoying way, and Republicans blast that into a megaphone to scare voters into voting for them, despite their views being overwhelmingly unpopular with Americans as a whole.

[jojoju1998]

Most culture war issues for the past 5-6 years has been basically progressives trying to move the ball in their direction on that issue and conservatives trying to preserve the status quo and since progressives control most institutions that also want to move in the same direction they do, the conservatives are treated as reactionaries even though the vast majority of the public held those same opinions a few years ago .

Like how Democrats are Pro China ??

Say Hello to Mitt Romney. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQzZdyzDZVY

[OSR stands with Israel]

A very small number of people on the left talk about social issues in a very annoying way, and Republicans blast that into a megaphone to scare voters into voting for them, despite their views being overwhelmingly unpopular with Americans as a whole.

The issue isn’t a small number but many institutions pushing the ball forward in a direction progressives want and that is what conservatives are so upset about . These institutions are viewed as basically being part and parcel with the Democratic Party which is why the democrats get blamed for what they did .

[jojoju1998]

A very small number of people on the left talk about social issues in a very annoying way, and Republicans blast that into a megaphone to scare voters into voting for them, despite their views being overwhelmingly unpopular with Americans as a whole.

The issue isn’t a small number but many institutions pushing the ball forward in a direction progressives want and that is what conservatives are so upset about . These institutions are viewed as basically being part and parcel with the Democratic Party which is why the democrats get blamed for what they did .

I have yet to see how progressives pushing for paid family leave, community college, Medicare benefit expansion is controversial and anti American.

Hell, Tennesse created Free Community College first, as a Republican state.

[Del Tachi]

why is this d00d talking about 2012 so much?  lol

[jojoju1998]

Because 2012, and even 2020 were examples of a democrat running on economic issues.

Just take a look at 2020. Yes we had BLM, and all that stuff, but Biden ran on Build Back better, paid leave, community college, public option. 


The only person talking about social issues was Trump. People talk about 2016 as an counterexample, but we can't forget that Hillary had to respond somehow, because Trump ran on building a wall.

[It’s so Joever]

Well duh.
But I would argue the only thing that matters is pandering to the right indentities. That can be done with economic and social issues alike.

[Mr. Smith]

Trick question, this is a true "both-sides" thing. Besides The Squad, the rest is lip-service and platitudes

[jojoju1998]

Trick question, this is a true "both-sides" thing. Besides The Squad, the rest is lip-service and platitudes

According to the NAPO, https://www.napo.org/files/5716/1005/5505/NAPO_116th_Congress_Legislative_Scorecard.pdf

The squad and most democrats have voted more in line with Police policy goals and objectives.

[Asta]

To be fair to them, I'm surprised Republicans don't talk about social issues more.

9 of last 10 recessions occurred under a Republican president. Face it, GOP's economic record sucks. Republicans raving about Trump's economy, which was basically inherited from Obama's and improved it a little bit tells you everything about how insignificant their accomplishment is.

With the way they had been worshipping at his feet, you would think the unemployment was 0% and S&P index hit a million. Of course, even then covid recession happened under Trump, which means GOP will have to revert to social issues again.

[darklordoftech]

Trump won in 2016 because he didn’t talk about economic issues, giving the impression that he was moderate on economic issues. Some Trump 2016 voters voted for Biden in 2020 because they were dissappointed that Trump tried to repeal Obamacare and cut taxes when they voted for him because they wanted the wall built.

[ProudModerate2]

Most culture war issues for the past 5-6 years has been basically progressives trying to move the ball in their direction on that issue and conservatives trying to preserve the status quo and since progressives control most institutions that also want to move in the same direction they do, the conservatives are treated as reactionaries even though the vast majority of the public held those same opinions a few years ago.

Times change, we all need to move forward and "grow-up."
And things/issues will change much faster than in the past, as everything (including technology) is massively accelerated in today's society.
If it wasn't for "progressive" thinking, we still might have "status quo" issues like segregated schools, women-should-just-stay-at-home, and people unable to marry who they love simply because they are different skin colors or of the same gender. God forbid will keep these vital "status quo" positions in our nation.

[darklordoftech]

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=459791.0

Trump spent  9 months of political capital trying to repeal Obamacare, when that wasn’t even the core issue of his 2016 campaign. His core issue was securing the borders and other than some tweets here and There , or spontaneous moments he didn’t try anywhere close to as hard in getting a bill that does that passed vs the amount of effort he put in trying to repeal Obamacare

[OSR stands with Israel]

Most culture war issues for the past 5-6 years has been basically progressives trying to move the ball in their direction on that issue and conservatives trying to preserve the status quo and since progressives control most institutions that also want to move in the same direction they do, the conservatives are treated as reactionaries even though the vast majority of the public held those same opinions a few years ago.

Times change, we all need to move forward and "grow-up."
And things/issues will change much faster than in the past, as everything (including technology) is massively accelerated in today's society.
If it wasn't for "progressive" thinking, we still might have "status quo" issues like segregated schools, women-should-just-stay-at-home, and people unable to marry who they love simply because they are different skin colors or of the same gender. God forbid will keep these vital "status quo" positions in our nation.

The question should be what type of society we want , not whether we should chase progress at all costs or oppose it at all costs

[jojoju1998]

Most culture war issues for the past 5-6 years has been basically progressives trying to move the ball in their direction on that issue and conservatives trying to preserve the status quo and since progressives control most institutions that also want to move in the same direction they do, the conservatives are treated as reactionaries even though the vast majority of the public held those same opinions a few years ago.

Times change, we all need to move forward and "grow-up."
And things/issues will change much faster than in the past, as everything (including technology) is massively accelerated in today's society.
If it wasn't for "progressive" thinking, we still might have "status quo" issues like segregated schools, women-should-just-stay-at-home, and people unable to marry who they love simply because they are different skin colors or of the same gender. God forbid will keep these vital "status quo" positions in our nation.

The question should be what type of society we want , not whether we should chase progress at all costs or oppose it at all costs

Well let's see here. If we're talking about protecting our insitutions :

Who has tried to reject the results of a fair and legal election ? Who has tried to overthrow the Capitol and the system of government ?

It's that simple folks. Has AOC called for the Killing of Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi ? Who wrote the Patriot act into law, destroying our liberties in the name of national security ? Who has praised Putin and Xi jiping for doing a " Good Job " with those countries ? Not Democrats. Who has violated the consitution in preventing people from voting ?

Do I have to show everyone what happened on Jan. 6 again ??

If someone loves their country, and wants to preserve the insitutions, then you fight for the people who make it work. The worker. And you try to improve our insitutions, not call it into question.

[afleitch]

Where you been these last forty years?

[Xing]

A very small number of people on the left talk about social issues in a very annoying way, and Republicans blast that into a megaphone to scare voters into voting for them, despite their views being overwhelmingly unpopular with Americans as a whole.

The issue isn’t a small number but many institutions pushing the ball forward in a direction progressives want and that is what conservatives are so upset about . These institutions are viewed as basically being part and parcel with the Democratic Party which is why the democrats get blamed for what they did .

It's not that many institutions, and many have a very specific niche and don't affect other facets of society much. For example, the nonsense that is sometimes common place in academia is rarely if ever directly taught to or discussed with students, and is mostly just the topic of conversation at meetings or professional developments, and doesn't even have particularly high support among academics, if they're allowed to speak honestly about how they feel. It's not even what most progressives want, it's what a small percentage of mostly online (sl)ac(k)tivists want, and while they're very vocal, they're not the majority. Republicans of course want to present them as being representative of the majority of Democrats, since this is an easy way to turn voters away from the Democratic Party.