Will the Rust Belt become the new Deep South?
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« on: September 17, 2021, 09:04:45 PM »

I mean in terms of being stereotyped as being the backwards region of the country much like how the South was in the early 2000's
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2021, 08:26:52 AM »
« Edited: September 18, 2021, 08:38:23 AM by Anaphoric-Statism »

If it eventually becomes the Republicans' base, we could certainly see the cultural caricature of a backwards Republican shift. It's a possibility- the Deep South has opportunities for economic growth now that the Midwest just doesn't seem to have, and every bit of automation that the response to in Washington is "just learn to code" will push them further and further in that direction. Their towns have been dying since at least the 1970s with no end in sight. Entire generations have lived through nothing but painful managed degrowth. Maybe Michigan will be tomorrow's Mississippi.

I think we're already at a point where the average Republican that people conjure in their minds is Joe Six-pack who could be from anywhere in amorphous rural America. This thread is a good read on that: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=461757.0
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2021, 09:39:18 AM »
« Edited: September 19, 2021, 09:53:46 PM by DS0816 »

I mean in terms of being stereotyped as being the backwards region of the country much like how the South was in the early 2000's

Why do you think this area in the U.S. is trending away from the Democrats?
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2021, 11:23:28 AM »

Perhaps later in the century, but I think in the short term, the big 2 (Wisconsin and Michigan) will look much like how Iowa+Ohio looked during the 20th century, while I anticipate there might be enough Democratic growth in suburban Philadelphia to cancel out or at least slow the GOP gains in Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2021, 02:41:21 PM »

The Deep South has been seen as “backwards” for as long as it has existed.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2021, 07:39:13 AM »

Absolutely. With the population loss continuing, it's bound to happen. Democrats are not benefitting from losing votes in the cities. On the other hand, Rs need to slow the damage in the suburbs.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2021, 10:06:08 AM »

Yes. And the northeast will become the new Rust Belt.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2021, 06:51:27 PM »

If it weren’t for Evers and his veto pen, WI would probably be there right now.  Just take a look at our state legislature, Supreme Court, and Ron Johnson.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2021, 10:10:44 PM »

If it weren’t for Evers and his veto pen, WI would probably be there right now.  Just take a look at our state legislature, Supreme Court, and Ron Johnson.

Not at all! In the Deep South rural areas that are mostly white (and there are enough of them) give the GOP 75% of the vote or more, sometimes crossing 90% (like Winston County, AL, and two counties in LA). In contrast, rural Wisconsin is still comparitively moderate. Of all 72 counties in your state, just two gave Trump over 70% (Florence and Taylor - and he didn't reach the 73% mark in any).
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2021, 07:21:06 PM »

I mean in terms of being stereotyped as being the backwards region of the country much like how the South was in the early 2000's

it's ALWAYS gonna be Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama...

those rust belt areas have seen modernity. the people of the Deep South don't care if they're modern as long as they have the power. we're just too racially polarized to progress.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2021, 11:07:33 AM »

The Deep South has been seen as “backwards” for as long as it has existed.

Dumb post.  Did you forget that five of our first six presidents were Virginia slavers?  lol

It is literally the Southern aristocracy that founded our country.  It was actually puritanical Yankees who had the reputation of being "backward" in the centuries between Jamestown and Fort Sumter
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2021, 11:14:29 AM »

The Deep South has been seen as “backwards” for as long as it has existed.

Dumb post.  Did you forget that five of our first six presidents were Virginia slavers?  lol

It is literally the Southern aristocracy that founded our country.  It was actually puritanical Yankees who had the reputation of being "backward" in the centuries between Jamestown and Fort Sumter
The Southern slaveholding elite was influential, far in excess of their numbers, in many offices, elected or otherwise, and a lot of the maturing of the American state was under their auspices. This maturing is what helped give America a certain institutional stability for centuries to come.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2021, 11:29:53 AM »

The Deep South has been seen as “backwards” for as long as it has existed.

Dumb post.  Did you forget that five of our first six presidents were Virginia slavers?  lol

It is literally the Southern aristocracy that founded our country.  It was actually puritanical Yankees who had the reputation of being "backward" in the centuries between Jamestown and Fort Sumter



Virginia is the Upper south though and not the Deep South
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2021, 11:43:43 AM »

The Deep South has been seen as “backwards” for as long as it has existed.

Dumb post.  Did you forget that five of our first six presidents were Virginia slavers?  lol

It is literally the Southern aristocracy that founded our country.  It was actually puritanical Yankees who had the reputation of being "backward" in the centuries between Jamestown and Fort Sumter



West Virginia is the Upper south though and not the Deep South

FTFY
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2021, 11:50:02 AM »

I doubt white voters even in states like Ohio are going to vote 90% Republican, so probably not.
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2021, 06:02:28 PM »

If it weren’t for Evers and his veto pen, WI would probably be there right now.  Just take a look at our state legislature, Supreme Court, and Ron Johnson.

Exactly!
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2021, 01:29:35 PM »

Looking forward to things being set right again with the 2052 map:

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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2021, 01:07:41 PM »

lolno
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