Joe Biden is more doomed than you think and this ain't "doomerism".

[pppolitics]

Infrastructure bill sure as hell isn't nothing.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Infrastructure bill sure as hell isn't nothing.

It’s not certain that will pass, and it is pretty minor without the reconciliation element. It orients funding even more towards cars over public transport, which is not good.

[Heebie Jeebie]

Infrastructure bill sure as hell isn't nothing.

It’s not certain that will pass, and it is pretty minor without the reconciliation element. It orients funding even more towards cars over public transport, which is not good.

Even without the reconciliation bill, the infrastructure bill is a big damn deal.  It's massive in its own right.  And it does a ton to boost public transport and green infrastructure.  I'm not sure where you're getting your info.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

To an R party that haven't won the an Election since ,201072014/ we are fooled that Rs have won Congress 16/20 yrs but not the Senate or the Prez

[Utah Neolib]

To an R party that haven't won the an Election since ,201072014/ we are fooled that Rs have won Congress 16/20 yrs but not the Senate or the Prez

Time Traveler Olakwandi?

[Progressive Pessimist]

He is doomed because Americans will grow tired of the same stale solutions.

If that's the case then the withdrawal shouldn't qualify as that. What's stale would be staying in the country for who knows how long.

[EugeneDebs]

I'll be the broken record that counters that as long as DJT is the leader of the GOP, Democrats will be fine. Absolutely fine.

The Democrats are going to lose the House next year; you can't win endlessly on Trump being bad.

[Roll Roons]

I'll be the broken record that counters that as long as DJT is the leader of the GOP, Democrats will be fine. Absolutely fine.

The Democrats are going to lose the House next year; you can't win endlessly on Trump being bad. Orange Man Bad.

FTFY.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I'll be the broken record that counters that as long as DJT is the leader of the GOP, Democrats will be fine. Absolutely fine.

The Democrats are going to lose the House next year; you can't win endlessly on Trump being bad. Orange Man Bad.

FTFY.

I actually disagree. If Biden ends up unpopular reminding people how much worse Trump is might be for the best. The big claim is that somehow Trump is actually more competent after all because he had the luxury of now having a major foreign terrorist attack on his watch, but that ignores first, that we can never really know. And two, that Trump caused much of the domestic turmoil we are still going through today, and Americans should be reminded of that, especially for down-ballot races where House Republicans, and members of the party at other levels, were not tied to Trump as much as they possibly should have.

Anyway, if Democrats are doomed no matter what, why does it even matter what they run on?

[Roll Roons]

I'll be the broken record that counters that as long as DJT is the leader of the GOP, Democrats will be fine. Absolutely fine.

The Democrats are going to lose the House next year; you can't win endlessly on Trump being bad. Orange Man Bad.

FTFY.

I actually disagree. If Biden ends up unpopular reminding people how much worse Trump is might be for the best. The big claim is that somehow Trump is actually more competent after all because he had the luxury of now having a major foreign terrorist attack on his watch, but that ignores first, that we can never really know. And two, that Trump caused much of the domestic turmoil we are still going through today, and Americans should be reminded of that, especially for down-ballot races where House Republicans, and members of the party at other levels, were not tied to Trump as much as they possibly should have.

Anyway, if Democrats are doomed no matter what, why does it even matter what they run on?

Oh, I just wanted to include the phrase "Orange Man Bad".

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

If Biden ends up unpopular reminding people how much worse Trump is might be for the best.

Biden ending up being unpopular might be for the best?

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[Progressive Pessimist]

I'll be the broken record that counters that as long as DJT is the leader of the GOP, Democrats will be fine. Absolutely fine.

The Democrats are going to lose the House next year; you can't win endlessly on Trump being bad. Orange Man Bad.

FTFY.

I actually disagree. If Biden ends up unpopular reminding people how much worse Trump is might be for the best. The big claim is that somehow Trump is actually more competent after all because he had the luxury of now having a major foreign terrorist attack on his watch, but that ignores first, that we can never really know. And two, that Trump caused much of the domestic turmoil we are still going through today, and Americans should be reminded of that, especially for down-ballot races where House Republicans, and members of the party at other levels, were not tied to Trump as much as they possibly should have.

Anyway, if Democrats are doomed no matter what, why does it even matter what they run on?

Oh, I just wanted to include the phrase "Orange Man Bad".

Haha, fair enough. I probably should have responded to EugeneDebs instead.

[Galeel]

Amazing that everyone is forgetting the essential rule of american politics that everything passes within at most 3 months. This won't matter in 2024.

[Alben Barkley]

You are a doomer, and putting it in "quotes" will never change that.

[Non Swing Voter]

Amazing that everyone is forgetting the essential rule of american politics that everything passes within at most 3 months. This won't matter in 2024.

You're forgetting the essential rule that doomerism lasts the entire 3 months on this board.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I'll be the broken record that counters that as long as DJT is the leader of the GOP, Democrats will be fine. Absolutely fine.

The Democrats are going to lose the House next year; you can't win endlessly on Trump being bad.

Fortunately for the Democrats, "Republicans are awful" is something they can win on. Though whether or not they can win enough to keep control of both houses of Congress in the 2022 election remains to be seen. (As does whether or not the Republicult makes 2022 a referendum on Donnie Dumb****.)

[KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸]

We are not even a year into his presidency and already the Democrats have accomplished nothing (as usual),

WELL MAYBE THEY'D GET SH!T DONE IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS THINGS YOU F**KING INBRED MOOSE

[Schiff for Senate]

LOL... the OP is worse than Snow Labrador and Hammy when it comes to ridiculous concern trolling. The election is over 3 years out and anyone pretending to claim to know how Biden/Dems are either doomed or on track to a big win is kidding themselves. Stop posting such content.

Well, he may have a point about Harris - she may be a dead weight on the ticket in 2024 given how unpopular she is compared to the average Democrat. I'm not saying she should necessarily be replaced (that may have consequences of its own), and the original post here is pessmistic beyong reasonableness. I don't think she's that popular for a Democrat even in her home state of California; consider the following: Biden improved on Hillary's performance and chose Kamala Harris (a Californian) as his running mate, so it stands to reason that CA should have trended leftward - but it didn't; in fact, it was among a very small number of states to somehow shift rightward. I don't know exactly why this is but I think it's possible at least some of it is Harris-related. I'm not saying that's necessarily the only factor or even a factor, but it most likely played some sort of role in CA's results.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

We are not even a year into his presidency and already the Democrats have accomplished nothing (as usual),

WELL MAYBE THEY'D GET SH!T DONE IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS THINGS YOU F**KING INBRED MOOSE

This doesn’t pass muster. The Democratic leadership is not correctly pressuring the alleged rebels (I’m not even sure it wants to), and the executive could certainly be doing a lot more by fiat. Manchin aside, even if No Labels and Sinema are half as pivotal as they claim to be, the leadership is somewhat responsible for getting so many corporate types to where they are in Congress, and it still blows political capital on elitist pandering and rewarding corrupt insiders like Rahm Emanuel.

The Biden administration, Pelosi and Schumer are not the only ones responsible, but they deserve a fair share of the blame for the current situation. The seniority system needs to be overhauled.

[Heebie Jeebie]

We are not even a year into his presidency and already the Democrats have accomplished nothing (as usual),

WELL MAYBE THEY'D GET SH!T DONE IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS THINGS YOU F**KING INBRED MOOSE

This doesn’t pass muster. The Democratic leadership is not correctly pressuring the alleged rebels (I’m not even sure it wants to), and the executive could certainly be doing a lot more by fiat. Manchin aside, even if No Labels and Sinema are half as pivotal as they claim to be, the leadership is somewhat responsible for getting so many corporate types to where they are in Congress, and it still blows political capital on elitist pandering and rewarding corrupt insiders like Rahm Emanuel.

The Biden administration, Pelosi and Schumer are not the only ones responsible, but they deserve a fair share of the blame for the current situation. The seniority system needs to be overhauled.

I'm not sure why you think Dem leadership is failing to correctly pressure the "rebels."  Haven't Manchin and the rest fallen in line on the Covid relief bill and all the other Democratic priorities to this point?  Yeah, Manchin and Sinema habitually make a big show of their independence (Sinema's "maverick" shtick is especially grating), but for the most part they've been team players.  There's still a lot of legislating to come, but I think that if you compare their behavior to the "rebels" of earlier years (F you, Joe Lieberman!) you can see just how destructive individual Senators can be if they really want to be.  But I think Manchin and Sinema and all the corporate House Dems are staying in line because Schumer and Pelosi are really, really good at their jobs.

I'm not saying Dem leadership has been perfect.  Like you, I think it's grotesque that Rahm Emanuel isn't a pariah at the least.  Biden could be more aggressive with executive orders (he probably will be after the midterms when the opportunities for progressive legislation are nil) and he's just wrong in continuing to oppose increased immigration levels (he should take a page from the Reagan playbook on that front).  But overall, given the weak hand leadership has been dealt, I think they've been shockingly effective to this point.