I want Democrats to get away from Yale.

[DrScholl]

That's not my point. My point is that we can't throw away these voters. We have to understand them.

There is nothing to understand except that they don't want to vote for Democrats. You can't force people to vote for you by bombarding their communities with your presence. If anything that will just create more tension over "liberals invading conservative towns".

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I've been saying for months now, maybe years, that far from being the amoral "drag queen story hour" free-for-all of the febrile conservative imagination, Democratic and generally center-left America's internal culture right now is in fact intensely moralistic. It's a suicidal moralism, though, because it's profoundly exclusionary and shibboleth-based and one of its key tenets is that attempting to engage with not-very-punk-rock downscale America is the sort of "material cooperation with evil" that a certain type of very right-wing Catholic sees getting vaccinated as. The constant drumbeat of "Youngkin or no Youngkin, it would be morally wrong and also racist to consider modifying our approach to the new K12-education-centric culture war even slightly" from red avatars over the past eighteen hours is a perfect example of this moralism in action.

We need to get actual workers running for office. Subcontractors, electricians, plumbers, ironworkers, truck drivers, etc. These are the people who need to be represented on local boards and city councils and county offices. Then they might have an opportunity to rise through the ranks of the political system and actually have direct on the job experience with the pulse of working class America, rather than merely being considered automatically qualified for Governor, Senator, or President because they were groomed to be a CEO from birth.

No, instead we elect lawyers, academics, businessmen, and corporate politicians whose only experience with labor is by slashing wages and cutting jobs in times of recession. And this includes guys like Youngkin who is the farthest thing from a "regular Joe" despite his adopted persona.

Isn't that ironic though right ?

Terry didnt point out that Youngkin worked for the Carlye Group. Private equity. Big Business. I don't think I heard of that. Terry could have done better by focusing on Youngkin's past.

You have obviously not read about TMac's own history as a venture capitalist, real estate developer, bank CEO, and Clinton bundler lol

Yah just cause Obama could run a campaign like that , I doubt Terry could . Heck if it was President Clinton can Romney in 2012 , I doubt that type of a campaign is anywhere near as effective cause the messenger behind it would be viewed as hypocritical

People forget this today, but Clinton was actually a very effective surrogate for Obama in 2012, and even for the #populist -lite aspects of that campaign. The Clintons' secret for many years was that their unprincipledness enabled them to be convincing messengers for unusually many policy orientations, rather than unusually few. It's just that after 2016 they became so infamous for the disastrous "everything is fine and dandy; vote Clinton/Kaine for more of the same" message that they lost their magic touch and their ability to pivot to pushing anything else.

[OSR stands with Israel]

We need to get actual workers running for office. Subcontractors, electricians, plumbers, ironworkers, truck drivers, etc. These are the people who need to be represented on local boards and city councils and county offices. Then they might have an opportunity to rise through the ranks of the political system and actually have direct on the job experience with the pulse of working class America, rather than merely being considered automatically qualified for Governor, Senator, or President because they were groomed to be a CEO from birth.

No, instead we elect lawyers, academics, businessmen, and corporate politicians whose only experience with labor is by slashing wages and cutting jobs in times of recession. And this includes guys like Youngkin who is the farthest thing from a "regular Joe" despite his adopted persona.

Isn't that ironic though right ?

Terry didnt point out that Youngkin worked for the Carlye Group. Private equity. Big Business. I don't think I heard of that. Terry could have done better by focusing on Youngkin's past.

You have obviously not read about TMac's own history as a venture capitalist, real estate developer, bank CEO, and Clinton bundler lol

Yah just cause Obama could run a campaign like that , I doubt Terry could . Heck if it was President Clinton can Romney in 2012 , I doubt that type of a campaign is anywhere near as effective cause the messenger behind it would be viewed as hypocritical

People forget this today, but Clinton was actually a very effective surrogate for Obama in 2012, and even for the #populist -lite aspects of that campaign. The Clintons' secret for many years was that their unprincipledness enabled them to be convincing messengers for unusually many policy orientations, rather than unusually few. It's just that after 2016 they became so infamous for the disastrous "everything is fine and dandy; vote Clinton/Kaine for more of the same" message that they lost their magic touch and their ability to pivot to pushing anything else.

Oh I meant President Hillary Clinton not President Bill Clinton. Hillary vs Romney in 2012 is probably a pure tossup