Changing voting booth protocol

[Dr. MB]

I'm strongly against mods deleting any post in the voting booth. If it's really necessary (which 90% of the time it isn't) then just remove the offensive content, it's not hard.

[Virginiá]

Also on the subject of moderation reform: some have suggested giving Peebs mod powers. She's been managing our elections and census for years now, so she's definitely a trustworthy individual and YE has not objected to the prospect of her gaining those powers and accessing the modcave.

Just some food for thought, Virginia!

Is that even something Peebs wants?

One unique thing about being an Atlasia moderator seems to be that you become the target of accusations and animosity from factions of the game, even when you didn't do anything. Probably more so if she continues her position as elections administrator. It can be off-putting to some, as we've seen before.

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Also on the subject of moderation reform: some have suggested giving Peebs mod powers. She's been managing our elections and census for years now, so she's definitely a trustworthy individual and YE has not objected to the prospect of her gaining those powers and accessing the modcave.

Just some food for thought, Virginia!

Is that even something Peebs wants?

One unique thing about being an Atlasia moderator seems to be that you become the target of accusations and animosity from factions of the game, even when you didn't do anything. Probably more so if she continues her position as elections administrator. It can be off-putting to some, as we've seen before.

Is it possible to just be mod of that board?

[You don't see any blue avatars now]

I don't mind serving as mod for the voting booth. I'm not sure if I want more, though.

[YE]

Also on the subject of moderation reform: some have suggested giving Peebs mod powers. She's been managing our elections and census for years now, so she's definitely a trustworthy individual and YE has not objected to the prospect of her gaining those powers and accessing the modcave.

Just some food for thought, Virginia!

Is that even something Peebs wants?

One unique thing about being an Atlasia moderator seems to be that you become the target of accusations and animosity from factions of the game, even when you didn't do anything. Probably more so if she continues her position as elections administrator. It can be off-putting to some, as we've seen before.

Is it possible to just be mod of that board?

Yes.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Also on the subject of moderation reform: some have suggested giving Peebs mod powers. She's been managing our elections and census for years now, so she's definitely a trustworthy individual and YE has not objected to the prospect of her gaining those powers and accessing the modcave.

Just some food for thought, Virginia!

Is that even something Peebs wants?

One unique thing about being an Atlasia moderator seems to be that you become the target of accusations and animosity from factions of the game, even when you didn't do anything. Probably more so if she continues her position as elections administrator. It can be off-putting to some, as we've seen before.

Is it possible to just be mod of that board?

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Typically the board mods inherit the child boards, but they are assigned individually and listed separately thus as demonstrated above and I am fairly certain their were cases in the past where they differed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I believe Yankee has developed sufficient trust and restraint to be trusted with that type of system. But I understand if there are reasons to not allow this.

I have lived in perpetual fear of the day I had to delete/edit the decisive labor ballot bc they put something nasty about Fhtagn (or insert other conservative poster) in the preference list.

No amount of trust would stop the baying mobs at the gates in that scenario.

The unofficial arrangement is for YE to handle that situation. I also have consulted with him on about 80% of the actions I have taken since becoming a mod.

It is precisely through extreme restraint, caution, and "risk avoidance", that I have built up whatever trust that I have.

[Former President tack50]

Honestly given the current setup with Yankee and Lumine as mods, YE as global mod and Virginia as the owner of the whole site, I do not understand anyone who would have hypothetical issues of trust.

It would be a different thing if we only had Laborites or Federalists as mods, but the mod team in Atlasia is politically varied enough that I feel comfortable with them. If these 4 are able to get together to rig the election, more power to them

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Honestly given the current setup with Yankee and Lumine as mods, YE as global mod and Virginia as the owner of the whole site, I do not understand anyone who would have hypothetical issues of trust.

It would be a different thing if we only had Laborites or Federalists as mods, but the mod team in Atlasia is politically varied enough that I feel comfortable with them. If these 4 are able to get together to rig the election, more power to them

Lumine is still a mod? He's not listed on the board anymore?

[Former President tack50]

Honestly given the current setup with Yankee and Lumine as mods, YE as global mod and Virginia as the owner of the whole site, I do not understand anyone who would have hypothetical issues of trust.

It would be a different thing if we only had Laborites or Federalists as mods, but the mod team in Atlasia is politically varied enough that I feel comfortable with them. If these 4 are able to get together to rig the election, more power to them

Lumine is still a mod? He's not listed on the board anymore?

Oh correct, he is not one anymore I guess. If it comes to it, I suppose he could be reinstated (I don't even think he needs to be a mod in this board to watch the recycling bin, he could just take the position of moderator on the "Election and History Games" board if it comes to it, or some other low traffic board)

[SevenEleven]

Honestly given the current setup with Yankee and Lumine as mods, YE as global mod and Virginia as the owner of the whole site, I do not understand anyone who would have hypothetical issues of trust.

It would be a different thing if we only had Laborites or Federalists as mods, but the mod team in Atlasia is politically varied enough that I feel comfortable with them. If these 4 are able to get together to rig the election, more power to them

If people are including personal attacks in their ballots, those ballots deserve to be deleted. I don't think there would be any backlash against the mods. The voter who did that, perhaps.

[Virginiá]

Honestly given the current setup with Yankee and Lumine as mods, YE as global mod and Virginia as the owner of the whole site, I do not understand anyone who would have hypothetical issues of trust.

It would be a different thing if we only had Laborites or Federalists as mods, but the mod team in Atlasia is politically varied enough that I feel comfortable with them. If these 4 are able to get together to rig the election, more power to them

You're right, the current setup should be more than sufficient, but it would probably be a net positive to head off the last potential issue that people could presumably cry foul over that isn't related to in-game regulations/lawsuits/etc. Of course, as we've seen IRL, you don't actually need proof of anything to lob baseless accusations - you can just say something happened and keep repeating it regardless of how absurd it sounds, but at the very least we can remove any theoretical points of abuse to limit post-election disputes.

Oh correct, he is not one anymore I guess.

He resigned half a year ago or so (I forget exactly). I don't imagine he has had a change of heart since it hasn't been that long.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Honestly given the current setup with Yankee and Lumine as mods, YE as global mod and Virginia as the owner of the whole site, I do not understand anyone who would have hypothetical issues of trust.

It would be a different thing if we only had Laborites or Federalists as mods, but the mod team in Atlasia is politically varied enough that I feel comfortable with them. If these 4 are able to get together to rig the election, more power to them

If people are including personal attacks in their ballots, those ballots deserve to be deleted. I don't think there would be any backlash against the mods. The voter who did that, perhaps.

I forget when exactly you joined the game, but there was certainly potential for backlash over the deletion of a ballot posted by Weatherboy in the July 2019 Southern Governor Race, over it (IIRC) arguably containing a personal attack against YT. Only the fact that the race ended up being a comfortable YT win kept the drama down.

[Virginiá]

I have implemented the restriction on deleting posts for all membergroups (Regular Members straight through to Moderators and Modadmins as well) in the Voting Booth board.

As a side effect, I think it also prohibited the ability to delete a thread there, but that probably isn't a common thing so a request can be made to myself, or a moderator can move a topic off the board and delete it elsewhere.