Will the GOP start to make inroads in cities?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 01, 2024, 03:26:20 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  2024 U.S. Presidential Election (Moderators: Likely Voter, GeorgiaModerate, KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸)
  Will the GOP start to make inroads in cities?
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2]
Author Topic: Will the GOP start to make inroads in cities?  (Read 2368 times)
R.P. McM
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,378
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2020, 06:28:24 AM »
« edited: January 05, 2021, 03:37:20 PM by R.P. McM »

Yes and I have been predicting such trends since 2019.

This past election is just vindication of that idea.

The more culturally conservative parts of cities (aka minority-majority) will trend R in the future.
Obviously the hipster areas and white college areas won’t change barring a post-Covid flight (which is possible)

And yes this will mean a full reversal of the 20th century coalitions.

Seems like a tough sell. What will the GOP be offering urban minorities? If the answer is nothing, outside of an opportunity to serve as a piñata for the true Republican base — white evangelicals/rurals/geriatrics — then I can't imagine such a strategy succeeding. At some point, you have to deliver the goods. And I doubt the plutocrats are willing to concede anything of substance.
“Democrats will never do better in the suburbs! Their financial policies would ruin them and they offer nothing to the voters of Tarrant County!” -Likely Atlas in 2004

But you didn't answer the question: What will the GOP be offering urban minorities? The same thing they supply to the white working-class — racial/religious/cultural grievance? Possibly, but they'll have to identify minority groups which their revamped base can collectively demonize. Apart from other urban nonwhites, I don't see any likely candidates.

Your Democrats-winning-the-suburbs analogy is a poor comparison because most suburbanites aren't members of the top-1%. Consequently, most Democratic fiscal policies don't harm them in the slightest. But the Republican Party is exclusively focused on serving the economic interests of the plutocrats, and that isn't going to change without a massive fight/realignment. As such, the GOP has almost nothing of material value to offer any popular constituency. Just hollow resentment.
Logged
R.P. McM
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,378
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2020, 06:42:39 AM »
« Edited: November 26, 2020, 08:37:18 AM by R.P. McM »

The GOP has fashioned itself a rural party and it's heavily anti-city. They are refusing to accept that Trump lost on the basis that large cities are full of fraud. The urban-rural divide is how they turnout their very conservative base that views cities as Sodom and Gomorrah. If anything they are going to double down on anti-city rhetoric and try to further polarize the electorate.

If that is the case, why is Rudy Giuliani still relevant in the GOP? Why did they embrace the LAPD and NYPD so much this year?

Who would Frank Rizzo's constituency be in 2020? Well, certainly not the city of Philadelphia — he'd lose the mayoral election in a landslide. Same with Giuliani in the case of NYC. So Rudy only remains relevant to the extent he's found a new constituency — racist, authoritarian whites residing on the outskirts of the urban core.
Logged
Red Wall
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 736


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2020, 06:45:50 AM »

Yes. Cities have an above average crime rate and focusing on law and order will reduce margins there. Many black neighborhoods have chronic crime problems and want tougher enforcement. Wwc pockets in cities like NYC and Chicago don't like the "defund the police" agenda and although these are already the most Republicans areas of most cities (unless your city has a community of orthodox jews), the inner city wwc votes way more democrat than the national average or its own state average. And of course there are the socially conservative Hispanics who could become value voters. Bush mamaged to convert many of them into that and Trump managed to deliver huge swings among hispanics.
Logged
Flyersfan232
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,928


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2021, 05:49:21 PM »

If republicans ran Larry Hogan, he could easily cut into the democrats margins in the cities and probably take back many of the suburban counties.
Larry Hogan doesn't have a chance in hell at ever being the Republican nominee so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here
even then outside of maryland BIG IF IN MARYLAND BTW i doubt he make a dent
Logged
Chips
Those Chips
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2021, 11:06:57 PM »

Maybe.
Logged
Suburbia
bronz4141
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,666
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2021, 01:38:17 PM »

The GOP has fashioned itself a rural party and it's heavily anti-city. They are refusing to accept that Trump lost on the basis that large cities are full of fraud. The urban-rural divide is how they turnout their very conservative base that views cities as Sodom and Gomorrah. If anything they are going to double down on anti-city rhetoric and try to further polarize the electorate.

If that is the case, why is Rudy Giuliani still relevant in the GOP? Why did they embrace the LAPD and NYPD so much this year?

Who would Frank Rizzo's constituency be in 2020? Well, certainly not the city of Philadelphia — he'd lose the mayoral election in a landslide. Same with Giuliani in the case of NYC. So Rudy only remains relevant to the extent he's found a new constituency — racist, authoritarian whites residing on the outskirts of the urban core.
Northeast Philly. Somerton. Republicans should campaign there more.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.216 seconds with 10 queries.