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« on: July 05, 2006, 09:19:36 AM »

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Enron founder Kenneth Lay died early Wednesday in Aspen, a family spokeswoman said. He was 64.

In a statement, spokeswoman Kelly Kimberly said, "The Lays have a very large family with whom they need to communicate, and out of respect for the family we will release further details at a later time."

In May, Lay was found guilty of nine counts of fraud and conspiracy related to the collapse of Enron, the company he founded that grew into the seventh largest company before it imploded after an accounting

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/05/news/newsmakers/lay_death/index.htm?cnn=yes
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2006, 09:27:04 AM »

As bad of a guy as he was, I am still saddened by this, as I would be by nearly anyone's death.

I hate to be morbid, but given the timing of his death, I wonder if there is any possibility of suicide.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2006, 09:28:23 AM »

I hate to be morbid, but given the timing of his death, I wonder if there is any possibility of suicide.

They're saying it was from a heart attack. It could have been induced but something but I really doubt it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2006, 09:33:06 AM »

This does look rather suspicious.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 09:53:08 AM »



Two down, one to go.  I can see it now:  "The curse of Enron."
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2006, 11:29:58 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2006, 12:15:45 PM »

Well isn't that convenient.

Anyway, I bet there are some people out there who, lamenting his escape from justice now, would have a different stance if he was somehow sentenced to this, immediately demonstrating the ridiculousness of the death penalty.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2006, 12:23:04 PM »

Well, I had said all along that he should have been put to death anyway. Chalk it up under sh**t happens.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2006, 12:26:18 PM »

OMG CONSPIRAZY! DUBYA FAKED LAYS DEATH OMG!11!1!
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2006, 02:20:07 PM »

Hah, he got away with it.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2006, 02:26:21 PM »

Well, that removes any questions about a presidental pardon.

I think conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with this ala Vince Foster.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2006, 04:15:43 PM »

Bet his family's taken care off. Sadly, can't say that for many former Enron employees.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2006, 06:29:36 PM »

He pulled a Slobodan Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2006, 06:56:10 PM »

While suicide is certainly possible, and this all does look suspicious, I would say that a heart attack is quite likely.  Not that I feel bad for him, but imagine the level of stress was under.  That alone would likely induce a heart attack.

P.S.  And yeah, this does kinda suck, because suicide or not, he got off easy.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2006, 06:58:23 PM »


I concur.  *nods intelligently*

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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2006, 07:26:35 PM »


You think he took it with him? The cad! Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2006, 11:36:57 AM »

Oh well.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2006, 11:59:49 AM »

His estate should be liquidated and his victims should be paid back what they are owed, to the extent possible.
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2006, 12:58:48 PM »

My understanding was that he had - at the very least and that they know of - something around 10 million left.  Apparently his death means that his family has a much better chance of keeping it than if he had lived.  I think the way it works is that while he had it the money was forfeit for his debts and leins, including legal judgements criminal and civil, but the moment he died, the money passed to his heirs, and unless previously attached, is free and clear.  In other words they missed their chance to get it from him.

So it is obvious that his heirs stood to benefit greatly from his death. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2006, 03:13:46 PM »

My understanding was that he had - at the very least and that they know of - something around 10 million left.  Apparently his death means that his family has a much better chance of keeping it than if he had lived.  I think the way it works is that while he had it the money was forfeit for his debts and leins, including legal judgements criminal and civil, but the moment he died, the money passed to his heirs, and unless previously attached, is free and clear.  In other words they missed their chance to get it from him.

So it is obvious that his heirs stood to benefit greatly from his death. 

So do you think that his death was suspicious then, and that there is a possibility that his heart attack was, shall I say, induced?
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2006, 03:46:58 PM »

Last evenings news shows all seemed to agree his estate was still liable to lawsuits. If anything it might prove a better deal for those with any hope of partial recovery since there could be insurance proceeds paid into the estate which would make even more money available for recovery. There is nothing close to what was stolen in either event.
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2006, 11:11:10 PM »

HA! Karma can be a real bitch, can't it?
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2006, 11:51:46 PM »

Bet his family's taken care off. Sadly, can't say that for many former Enron employees.

Good point. Maybe they should inherit his fortune instead as compensation for his wrongdoing....
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2006, 12:42:41 AM »
« Edited: July 08, 2006, 12:05:40 AM by Inks.LWC »

I know this sounds really conspiracy/I saw Elvis at McDonalds, but is the govt. going to investigate that he really IS dead?
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2006, 06:25:34 PM »

Hmmm... good idea.
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