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« on: July 28, 2020, 11:46:52 PM »

Place that are like Vermont with but with more African Americans and Hispanics

Is Orange County,nc the only place?
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2020, 01:16:06 AM »

Lincoln county oregon passed that super woke mask law

Also carrol county Arkansas says has a super woke tourist town.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2020, 03:32:46 AM »

Pretty much most college towns fit the bill, especially rural ones whose student bodies are much more diverse than the surrounding area's.  Also might point to Presidio county TX - Heavily Hispanic but with a very artsy liberal white population centralized in the city of Marfa.


If you're looking for a part of the country that's very very rural and very very diverse, the eastern Aleutian islands is about as remote as possible and boasts a population equal parts white, Native, hispanic, and Asian (Mostly Filipino and Vietnamese) due to a heavy resort and service industry.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2020, 05:12:44 AM »

The black middle-class suburbs of Atlanta e.g. DeKalb County.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2020, 06:06:38 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2020, 10:40:22 AM »
« Edited: July 29, 2020, 10:47:11 AM by TDAS04 »

Gwinnett County, GA?  Lots of suburban areas are now diverse.  Rural areas are still considerably less diverse, even though there obviously are diverse rural areas.

Also carrol county Arkansas says has a super woke tourist town.

I don't know about diversity, though.  According to the 2000 Census, Eureka Springs had one black person.


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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2020, 10:52:05 AM »

There aren't a heck of a lot of culturally liberal and diverse rural areas. I guess certain areas of New Mexico might qualify, like Taos?
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2020, 11:16:25 AM »

Cook county mn has a native reservation and is also touristy.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2020, 02:10:41 PM »

Southern suburbs of Sacramento. Have a look at Elk Grove.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2020, 03:12:57 PM »

Southern suburbs of Sacramento. Have a look at Elk Grove.

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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2020, 03:13:41 PM »

Lincoln county oregon passed that super woke mask law

Also carrol county Arkansas says has a super woke tourist town.
Yea I would like to study areas like that. I would feel a place in virginia and north carolina would be a candidate.
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2020, 03:22:30 PM »

A lot of suburban towns in the Bay Area. Not very many black people, but certainly a lot of Hispanics and Asians.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2020, 02:44:01 AM »

Haha this is a passion of mine because I want to find that place!

Essentially there are three components - Liberal (using a guesstimate of White liberal vote combined with general voting pattern), diverse (I used an existing "diversity index" which measures likelihood of encountering someone of another race, and created an additional metric giving more credit to communities with significant non-white communities), and not urban (surprisingly difficult to quantify; I used the categories given by the census).

I then created a spreadsheet weighted the averages of these measures and got a beautiful ranking of every county and parish in the United States. I wish I had found easy access to Alaska's data because Alaska is probably the most diverse rural state and I assume it is relatively liberal in these areas.

Here are some of the results!


Another ranking placing more emphasis on having a significant black population.


As others have mentioned the list is dominated by certain regions.
Rural Hawai'i was the most prominent.
Other expected areas include:
Semi-rural or suburban Northern California, especially East Bay and Sacramento / Stockton
Suburban areas of Georgia, NC, Maryland, and NJ.

A few I had no idea about... any ideas what's going on these places?
Stewart County, GA?
Warren County, NC?
Socorro County, NM?
And my favorite surprise - Nantucket, MA which has a sizable Black and Latino pop.

Adding more emphasis on Black residents basically just sends us to the Black Belt in the South, although Hawai'i still managed to stand out.

Some surprises were Okanogan in WA (I also think parts of Pierce and King County fit this criteria), but in general WA, New England, and Upstate New York under performed in my metrics because the vote generally wasn't strong enough to show white voters voting that liberal.  

In general this was quite a fun exercise and revealed to me that I will have a hard time finding a perfect combination of Diverse, Liberal, and Suburban/Rural to raise a family in one day... but maybe that will change...
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2020, 07:02:43 PM »

Wow.Ill message you
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2020, 07:03:49 PM »

Haha this is a passion of mine because I want to find that place!

Essentially there are three components - Liberal (using a guesstimate of White liberal vote combined with general voting pattern), diverse (I used an existing "diversity index" which measures likelihood of encountering someone of another race, and created an additional metric giving more credit to communities with significant non-white communities), and not urban (surprisingly difficult to quantify; I used the categories given by the census).

I then created a spreadsheet weighted the averages of these measures and got a beautiful ranking of every county and parish in the United States. I wish I had found easy access to Alaska's data because Alaska is probably the most diverse rural state and I assume it is relatively liberal in these areas.

Here are some of the results!


Another ranking placing more emphasis on having a significant black population.


As others have mentioned the list is dominated by certain regions.
Rural Hawai'i was the most prominent.
Other expected areas include:
Semi-rural or suburban Northern California, especially East Bay and Sacramento / Stockton
Suburban areas of Georgia, NC, Maryland, and NJ.

A few I had no idea about... any ideas what's going on these places?
Stewart County, GA?
Warren County, NC?
Socorro County, NM?
And my favorite surprise - Nantucket, MA which has a sizable Black and Latino pop.

Adding more emphasis on Black residents basically just sends us to the Black Belt in the South, although Hawai'i still managed to stand out.

Some surprises were Okanogan in WA (I also think parts of Pierce and King County fit this criteria), but in general WA, New England, and Upstate New York under performed in my metrics because the vote generally wasn't strong enough to show white voters voting that liberal.  

In general this was quite a fun exercise and revealed to me that I will have a hard time finding a perfect combination of Diverse, Liberal, and Suburban/Rural to raise a family in one day... but maybe that will change...


Very cool.Ill message you.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2020, 03:34:52 PM »

Lincoln county oregon passed that super woke mask law

Also carrol county Arkansas says has a super woke tourist town.

Eureka Springs is pretty liberal but gets completely drowned by Berryville and the rest of the county. Carroll County voted for Trump by 32 points.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2020, 07:28:46 PM »

Lincoln county oregon passed that super woke mask law

Also carrol county Arkansas says has a super woke tourist town.

Eureka Springs is pretty liberal but gets completely drowned by Berryville and the rest of the county. Carroll County voted for Trump by 32 points.

Yeah Carroll doesn't do well by most any metric... it's not diverse at all, not that liberal, but it's rural. Lincoln County, OR is fairly liberal and rural, but definitely not diverse either.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2020, 07:45:20 AM »

A lot of suburban towns in the Bay Area. Not very many black people, but certainly a lot of Hispanics and Asians.

There are places like this in Santa Cruz and Monterey Counties as well (though it's hard to find a place that actually fits all three).
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2020, 12:25:01 PM »

A lot of suburban towns in the Bay Area. Not very many black people, but certainly a lot of Hispanics and Asians.

There are places like this in Santa Cruz and Monterey Counties as well (though it's hard to find a place that actually fits all three).
Would be interesting to see how these places swung
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2020, 06:42:42 PM »

Many south suburbs of Chicago qualify, they have a solid black population and growing Asian, Latino, and mixed-race populations with a white college-educated segment. Furthermore, generational turnover means that a lot of older Millenials are moving in to start families.

I would assume there are many such suburbs in every major metropolitan area.
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