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« on: November 18, 2020, 10:29:01 PM »



Everyone aiding and abetting this should face criminal charges.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 10:42:48 PM »

Really stunningly bad article from CNN.  Sounds more like the reporter got the story assigned first and then had to go out and find things to fill it in.  Work backwards.  And criminal charges? lmao.

Pulling (SOME) troops out of Afghanistan - I thought even Democrats wanted this?  I guess now that Orange man wants it: bad.  There will still be 2,500 left over.  Thats a fire?  Is Biden going to surge in Afghanistan?

More China sanctions - Haven't heard any disagreement from Democrats previously here either.  In fact, the new sanctions they just announced are amazing and will have great effect.  Guarantee you that the Biden admin won't be rolling them back.

Iran - drafting more sanctions targetting Iran's human rights abuses.  I guess thats bad too according to DEM?  The Trump admin has been ramping up sanctions on Tehran for 3 years now.  This is hardly a new fire, if it can be called a fire at all.  The sanctions can be removed at the snap of a finger if Biden really wants them to be come Jan.

Gulf Arms Sales - All it says is that Biden team has expressed "reservations".  Hardly sounds like a fire to sell weapons to our allys.  Hint, we sold hundreds of millions in weapons to Saudi under Obama/Biden admin.  Lol.

Israeli settlements - Pompeo is going for a visit.. okay?  Not a fire.  Not a policy change even.  Continuation of trump foreign policy since 2017.

Yemen - Potentially designating Houthi rebels as terrorists (SDN, or what?).  Yawn.  Rolling back the designation is possible under a new administration.  This is so low impact, but guess they had to find something from Yemen to round out the article.

Absolutely none of these things are out of the ordinary (or out of left field) for this administration.  They are a continuation of the same policy they've had since Jan 2017.  When Trump's term is over and Biden is up, he gets to make his own foreign policy.  Thats how it works.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 10:50:40 PM »

The second decade of the 21st century is truly the turning point marking the beginning of the decline of the American experiment and of one of the greatest civilizations in human history.

This is living history folks, eschew despair and find comfort being a part of something that will inevitably be written about thousands of times over in the history books
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2020, 11:01:34 PM »

What's a disaster is all the wars we're involved in and propaganda rags like CNN that promote them.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2020, 11:17:30 PM »

What's a disaster is all the wars we're involved in and propaganda rags like CNN that promote them.

Broadly speaking, I agree.  But that doesn't make what Donald Trump is doing right, or good for anyone (except his Russian shareowners). It seems likely that his mix of abrupt troop movements and possibly provocations (such as planning to attack Iran) will only benefit America's enemies.



This came out on November 11th. It took the Trump administration about a week to start setting up the troop withdrawals, with more rumored to be coming. Trump had four years, two of it with both houses of Congress to actually end our endless wars, and did almost nothing. I think it's safe to say that this isn't being done for the benefit of the United States.



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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2020, 11:20:12 PM »

What's a disaster is all the wars we're involved in and propaganda rags like CNN that promote them.

Broadly speaking, I agree.  But that doesn't make what Donald Trump is doing right, or good for anyone (except his Russian shareowners). It seems likely that his mix of abrupt troop movements and possibly provocations (such as planning to attack Iran) will only benefit America's enemies.



This came out on November 11th. It took the Trump administration about a week to start setting up the troop withdrawals, with more rumored to be coming. Trump had four years, two of it with both houses of Congress to actually end our endless wars, and did almost nothing. I think it's safe to say that this isn't being done for the benefit of the United States.

Unlike Bush and Obama, Trump hasn't gotten us involved in any new ears in the middle east. Hawks whining about troops coming home from stupid wars as hurting us is ridiculous.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2020, 11:26:22 PM »

Unlike Bush and Obama, Trump hasn't gotten us involved in any new ears in the middle east. Hawks whining about troops coming home from stupid wars as hurting us is ridiculous.

While Trump has not (yet) pulled the trigger on any military conflicts, that can be attributed more to his general incompetence than his lack of trying.

Trump repeatedly suggested Venezuela invasion, stunning top aides – report
Trump advisers hesitated to give military options and warned adversaries over fears he might start a war
Fears of foreign policy chaos in Trump's final days fueled by Iran bombing report

And whether the consequences of his many disastrous choices in office lead to new wars has yet to be seen.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2020, 11:26:46 PM »

What's a disaster is all the wars we're involved in and propaganda rags like CNN that promote them.

Broadly speaking, I agree.  But that doesn't make what Donald Trump is doing right, or good for anyone (except his Russian shareowners). It seems likely that his mix of abrupt troop movements and possibly provocations (such as planning to attack Iran) will only benefit America's enemies.

This came out on November 11th. It took the Trump administration about a week to start setting up the troop withdrawals, with more rumored to be coming. Trump had four years, two of it with both houses of Congress to actually end our endless wars, and did almost nothing. I think it's safe to say that this isn't being done for the benefit of the United States.



Trump had already reduced troop levels in Afghanistan by several thousand in 2020.  It was announced in August that troop levels would be reduced below 5,000 by end of Nov.  There were at least 13,000 troops in the country at the beginning of the year.  Please learn the facts first, there is nothing abrupt about this.

You have no clue what you're talking about.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2020, 11:30:01 PM »

Preparing for 2024 is vital now for his re-election campaign
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2020, 11:58:48 PM »

The real fire move would be to recognize Taiwan Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2020, 12:09:42 AM »

The real fire move would be to recognize Taiwan Tongue

That would be amazing.

Now THAT would be starting a fire for the next admin.  Not selling arms to the same countries that Biden did when he was VP.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2020, 12:10:11 AM »

What's a disaster is all the wars we're involved in and propaganda rags like CNN that promote them.

Broadly speaking, I agree.  But that doesn't make what Donald Trump is doing right, or good for anyone (except his Russian shareowners). It seems likely that his mix of abrupt troop movements and possibly provocations (such as planning to attack Iran) will only benefit America's enemies.



This came out on November 11th. It took the Trump administration about a week to start setting up the troop withdrawals, with more rumored to be coming. Trump had four years, two of it with both houses of Congress to actually end our endless wars, and did almost nothing. I think it's safe to say that this isn't being done for the benefit of the United States.

Unlike Bush and Obama, Trump hasn't gotten us involved in any new ears in the middle east. Hawks whining about troops coming home from stupid wars as hurting us is ridiculous.
Well there is Yemen that he started getting involved in by restarting weapons sales and more covert action. There’s also the attempts at starting something in Venezuela and Iran that thankfully failed due to incompetence and the willingness to wait for the election respectively.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2020, 10:23:32 AM »

You're almost correct, Ghost. Trump's plan is to undermine next more warmonger administration. So far, so good. It'll be more difficult for Biden to sent back troops to Middle East. It'll be more difficult to ease all sanctions against China (though, he'll lift some), he'll not even move US embassy back from Jerusalem and he'll already unwillingly praised the normalization between Israel and some Arab Countries.




"There’s also the attempts at starting something in Venezuela and Iran that thankfully failed due to incompetence and the willingness to wait for the election respectively."


LMAO, what a lie. Trump could easily start a war there, only if he wanted. Why are you even pretending that you aren's TDS-warmonger? All the Democrats with their CNN/MSNBC were jerking off when Trump bombed Animal Assad, cause they thought he'd start a war. They would lovet to, nevertheless Trump persisted to not starting a wars.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2020, 10:12:46 PM »

You're almost correct, Ghost. Trump's plan is to undermine next more warmonger administration. So far, so good. It'll be more difficult for Biden to sent back troops to Middle East. It'll be more difficult to ease all sanctions against China (though, he'll lift some), he'll not even move US embassy back from Jerusalem and he'll already unwillingly praised the normalization between Israel and some Arab Countries.




"There’s also the attempts at starting something in Venezuela and Iran that thankfully failed due to incompetence and the willingness to wait for the election respectively."


LMAO, what a lie. Trump could easily start a war there, only if he wanted. Why are you even pretending that you aren's TDS-warmonger? All the Democrats with their CNN/MSNBC were jerking off when Trump bombed Animal Assad, cause they thought he'd start a war. They would lovet to, nevertheless Trump persisted to not starting a wars.


Everyone should ignore you.
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2020, 10:13:10 PM »

Trump supporters are universally Shameless.
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2020, 09:39:52 AM »

You're almost correct, Ghost. Trump's plan is to undermine next more warmonger administration. So far, so good. It'll be more difficult for Biden to sent back troops to Middle East. It'll be more difficult to ease all sanctions against China (though, he'll lift some), he'll not even move US embassy back from Jerusalem and he'll already unwillingly praised the normalization between Israel and some Arab Countries.




"There’s also the attempts at starting something in Venezuela and Iran that thankfully failed due to incompetence and the willingness to wait for the election respectively."


LMAO, what a lie. Trump could easily start a war there, only if he wanted. Why are you even pretending that you aren's TDS-warmonger? All the Democrats with their CNN/MSNBC were jerking off when Trump bombed Animal Assad, cause they thought he'd start a war. They would lovet to, nevertheless Trump persisted to not starting a wars.


Everyone should ignore you.

Lead by example, pal!
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2020, 09:44:50 AM »

I thought that he was planning to "liberate" Cuba and Venezuela in a second term. 
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