Meta: Stop blaming Democrats for Trump trying to steal the election

[Ferguson97]

I've seen countless doomers and Republicans saying "Democrats will regret pushing vote by mail if Trump is able to contest them". Stop with this rhetoric. It's completely messed up to blame a party for encouraging people to vote in a convenient and legal way that is very safe during a pandemic. It's insulting.

Republicans and Republicans alone are responsible for the Republicans' disrespect for the rule of law.

Suggesting that Democrats should "regret" pushing vote by mail is straight-up victim blaming. Stop.

[Horus]

I agree, Republicans and Republicans alone disrespect the rule of law.

Which means Democrats should've encouraged the legal way to vote that is less prone to lawsuits. In person voting.

It isn't victim blaming to say the Democrats should've had a better strategy. The Democratic party, after four years of chaos in both the white house and congress, still operates under the assumption that that the GOP is operating in good faith. Why they still believe this? Beats the hell outta me.

[Ferguson97]

Which means Democrats should've encouraged the legal way to vote that is less prone to lawsuits. In person voting.

"If you didn't want your husband to beat you, why did you burn dinner? You should've taken a cooking class."

[Horus]

Which means Democrats should've encouraged the legal way to vote that is less prone to lawsuits. In person voting.

"If you didn't want your husband to beat you, why did you burn dinner? You should've taken a cooking class."

Literally not the same thing at all.

[Hammy]

Which means Democrats should've encouraged the legal way to vote that is less prone to lawsuits. In person voting.

"If you didn't want your husband to beat you, why did you burn dinner? You should've taken a cooking class."

Literally not the same thing at all.

If you think there's a difference, then there's a problem.

[Horus]

Which means Democrats should've encouraged the legal way to vote that is less prone to lawsuits. In person voting.

"If you didn't want your husband to beat you, why did you burn dinner? You should've taken a cooking class."

If you think there's a difference, then there's a problem.
Literally not the same thing at all.

I don't view the Democratic party as a battered wife for one. That's weird and not a good analogy.

[Horus]

Why do red avs still think the GOP can be trusted is the better question...

It's not victim blaming to say you should be one step ahead of your enemy instead of living in the past when everyone still got along. That's good advice.

[John Dule]

Yes. We should all remember that any instability, uncertainty, or fear of illegitimacy about this election is driven 100% by the GOP. They are the ones working to discredit the results, and they are responsible for any fear of chaos as a result of this election.

[Hindsight was 2020]

We are in the middle of a freaking pandemic Horus of course democrats are gonna encourage people to vote in the safest way possible. Hammy is right that you flat out are blaming the victim here or the abuser

[Ferguson97]

Why do red avs still think the GOP can be trusted is the better question...
It's not victim blaming to say you should be one step ahead of your enemy

That's like, the definition of victim blaming.

[Hammy]

Which means Democrats should've encouraged the legal way to vote that is less prone to lawsuits. In person voting.

"If you didn't want your husband to beat you, why did you burn dinner? You should've taken a cooking class."

If you think there's a difference, then there's a problem.
Literally not the same thing at all.

I don't view the Democratic party as a battered wife for one. That's weird and not a good analogy.

"The Voters" who are the ones suffering at the hands of the GOP are not "the party"

[Horus]

We are in the middle of a freaking pandemic Horus of course democrats are gonna encourage people to vote in the safest way possible. Hammy is right that you flat out are blaming the victim here or the abuser

If getting Trump out is as important as the Dems claim, in person voting should've been prioritized as it is fool proof. All of the old people I know who are highly at risk still voted in person because they know this is a life or death election.

If you hate Trump but can't even be bothered enough to leave your home to vote against him, you must not hate him that much/want your vote to count.

[Beet]

I've seen countless doomers and Republicans saying "Democrats will regret pushing vote by mail if Trump is able to contest them". Stop with this rhetoric. It's completely messed up to blame a party for encouraging people to vote in a convenient and legal way that is very safe during a pandemic. It's insulting.

Republicans and Republicans alone are responsible for the Republicans' disrespect for the rule of law.

Suggesting that Democrats should "regret" pushing vote by mail is straight-up victim blaming. Stop.

I couldn't disagree with this more.

Even under the "rule of law", votes by mail are rejected at a higher rate than in person voting. So you're basically shooting yourself in the balls by telling your people to do it.

If the Democrats want to do that fine, but it's their own damn fault and they'll regret it when they lose the election over it.

[Inmate Trump]

I don’t blame anyone for voting by mail and I think it should’ve been encouraged more even.

But I do know Trump will challenge them in court, and it’s possible judges side with him.

[GP270watch]

 It's a great Trump evil that he demonized vote by mail in the middle of pandemic. A real patriot who cares about this country and its citizens would have encouraged vote by mail to keep voters, poll workers, law enforcement and auxiliary staffers as safe as possible.

 Since Trump is teflon and nothing seems to stick to him I expect nobody will really hold him accountable for his selfishness and poor decision making.

[Beet]

We are in the middle of a freaking pandemic Horus of course democrats are gonna encourage people to vote in the safest way possible. Hammy is right that you flat out are blaming the victim here or the abuser

If getting Trump out is as important as the Dems claim, in person voting should've been prioritized as it is fool proof. All of the old people I know who are highly at risk still voted in person because they know this is a life or death election.

If you hate Trump but can't even be bothered enough to leave your home to vote against him, you must not hate him that much/want your vote to count.

Exactly. The Democrats know that Trump doesn't respect democracy and that his people are probably tampering with thousands of ballots that have been going through the postal service and/or sitting in mail rooms for weeks, but they'd rather lose the election so they can whine about victim blaming and act morally superior.

And that's really the bottom line, has been since Day 1. I've always said both sides get what they want from Trump: Republicans get to win and Democrats get to be right (e.g. virtue signal).

[Pericles]

Mail voting leads to higher turnout than in-person voting though (especially with those ridiculous 10 hour lines), so the increase in turnout should cancel out a higher rate of ballot rejection. And overall, it seems like it will be easier for most people to vote than it was in 2016.

[Horus]

We are in the middle of a freaking pandemic Horus of course democrats are gonna encourage people to vote in the safest way possible. Hammy is right that you flat out are blaming the victim here or the abuser

If getting Trump out is as important as the Dems claim, in person voting should've been prioritized as it is fool proof. All of the old people I know who are highly at risk still voted in person because they know this is a life or death election.

If you hate Trump but can't even be bothered enough to leave your home to vote against him, you must not hate him that much/want your vote to count.

Exactly. The Democrats know that Trump doesn't respect democracy and that his people are probably tampering with thousands of ballots that have been going through the postal service and/or sitting in mail rooms for weeks, but they'd rather lose the election so they can whine about victim blaming and act morally superior.

And that's really the bottom line, has been since Day 1. I've always said both sides get what they want from Trump: Republicans get to win and Democrats get to be right (e.g. virtue signal).

I don't think most Democrats want to lose the election, but they prioritize safety and feelings over winning, which is fine against Mitt Romney or something but a bad strategy when dealing with someone as dangerous as Donald Trump.

[Beet]

We are in the middle of a freaking pandemic Horus of course democrats are gonna encourage people to vote in the safest way possible. Hammy is right that you flat out are blaming the victim here or the abuser

If getting Trump out is as important as the Dems claim, in person voting should've been prioritized as it is fool proof. All of the old people I know who are highly at risk still voted in person because they know this is a life or death election.

If you hate Trump but can't even be bothered enough to leave your home to vote against him, you must not hate him that much/want your vote to count.

Exactly. The Democrats know that Trump doesn't respect democracy and that his people are probably tampering with thousands of ballots that have been going through the postal service and/or sitting in mail rooms for weeks, but they'd rather lose the election so they can whine about victim blaming and act morally superior.

And that's really the bottom line, has been since Day 1. I've always said both sides get what they want from Trump: Republicans get to win and Democrats get to be right (e.g. virtue signal).

I don't think most Democrats want to lose the election, but they prioritize safety and feelings over winning, which is fine against Mitt Romney or something but a bad strategy when dealing with someone as dangerous as Donald Trump.

I don't think they want to lose either but they are unwilling to make the slightest moral compromises or do something underhanded to win. That's because many Democrats are only Democrats because they think it's the morally superior party, so if that wasn't the case there would be no point.

The Republicans, to their credit after the Bush years realized they weren't morally superior and gave up the Religious Right stuff of trying to control people, which was very unpopular.