Which major Mexican Revolutionary figures are you most sympathetic to?
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Porfiro Diaz
 
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Francisco Madero
 
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Victoriano Huerta
 
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Venustiano Carranza
 
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Pancho Villa
 
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Emiliano Zapata
 
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Alvaro Obregon
 
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Bernardo Reyes
 
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Flores Magon Brothers
 
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Pascual Orozco
 
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« on: September 26, 2020, 03:49:36 AM »

probably should have mentined Felipe Angeles as well; who was generally an unsung hero who moved in the orbits of most of the theatres of the conflict before reaching his tragic end.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2020, 12:33:32 PM »

I'll be VERY curious if anyone here picks Diaz or...shudder...Huerta.

Voted Madero, though he made some obvious mistakes.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2020, 03:01:51 PM »

Primarily Madero.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2020, 12:23:07 AM »

None come to mind except Madero. Is that a typical foreign perspective? Not sure how well liked all these figures are in Mexico.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2020, 03:07:03 PM »

None come to mind except Madero. Is that a typical foreign perspective? Not sure how well liked all these figures are in Mexico.

Madera, Villa, Zapata, Carranza and Obregon are all seen as heroes of the revolution, which is funny as many of them hated each others guts: Zapata and Madero fell out massively after the latters ascension to power (and, as decent as Madero was, I can hardly blame Zapata), Carranza thought Madero a fool, Madero thought Carranza an untrustworthy stooge of the Diaz regime, Villa tried to kill obregon, Carranza killed Zapata, Obregon had both Carranza and villa offed etc.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2020, 03:29:37 PM »

Liking Carranza is really baffling. The man was an absolute disaster.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2020, 08:17:49 AM »

Liking Carranza is really baffling. The man was an absolute disaster.

He was pretty mediocore, but the crucial thing is although he was more ideologically moderate/conservative than Madero, he was far more headstrong/stubborn and willing to impose his will: no compromises with the Diaz loyalists (Madero's big mistake), and being willing to stare down the United States on several occasions.
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2020, 05:11:30 PM »

The Zapatistas and Magonistas. Pancho Villa is pretty overrated in the US as a major figure here.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2020, 08:23:32 PM »

But Carranza's beard though....
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2020, 06:58:16 AM »

I must admit that I find the Mexican Revolution is one of the most confusing episodes in all of history.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2020, 08:43:27 AM »

I must admit that I find the Mexican Revolution is one of the most confusing episodes in all of history.
That’s mainly due to all the factions at play in a country in collapse, kinda similar to late 1910’s Russia. Ultimately it boils down into several lanes (someone correct me if I’m wrong)

Old Guard Conservatives (Diaz, Felix)
New Bourgeois Reformer (Madero)
Technocratic reformers/Corporatists (Obregon, Carranza at one point)
Bonapartists/Opportunists/Traitors to the Revolution (Carranza, Huerta, Obregon in a way)
Anarchists (Magon bros(Syndicalists), Zapatista(Indigenous uprising))
Champagne Socialists/(Petit) bourgeois revolutionary (Villa)

What we all should learn is that voluntary associations and a lack of an organized structure for a group usually fails in revolutions to more professional, organized, and ruthless factions. Alas, some didn’t learn after the Paris Commune gave people the rundown of what to do and what not to do.

Anyway obligatory f••• PRIistas, Vive Le Revolucion

Of course this explanation is quite informal.
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