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« on: September 23, 2020, 12:35:42 PM »

Mr. Harry S Truman has slandered my regional party, known as the "Dishonest Alliance", claiming that in a speech I watched
"While the Southern leaders of the Dishonest Alliance are busy touring the country making fine speeches about their strength of character"


There is no Southern leaders of the "Dishonest Alliance", and I'm the only person in the Dishonest Alliance, and I live in Lincoln and I haven't been making speeches for the Dishonest Alliance and I haven't been touring the country.  

I am suing Mr. Harry S Truman for slander of my regional party.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2020, 12:45:52 PM »

I am self representing.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2020, 01:18:23 PM »

Suing the Attorney General is certainly an interesting move Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2020, 02:41:33 PM »

What's the fancy name for dismissing a case for frivolity?
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2020, 02:44:09 PM »

Does this even have standing?

What's the fancy name for dismissing a case for frivolity?

I think it would be a lack of standing
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2020, 03:14:16 PM »

who care
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2020, 05:01:02 PM »

ISHAN HATES FREE SPEECH!
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2020, 06:05:51 PM »

lol okay
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2020, 08:42:33 PM »

Does this even have standing?

What's the fancy name for dismissing a case for frivolity?

I think it would be a lack of standing

Some Atlasian SCOTUS justices haven't considered standing to be even relevant in this game however.

But:
There is no Southern leaders of the "Dishonest Alliance", and I'm the only person in the Dishonest Alliance.

You may be the only playable character in the dishonest alliance, but NPCs are now a thing in this game, so *shrug*
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2020, 09:17:40 PM »

^ The term OBD is thinking of is 'certiorari.' Standing is something else.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2020, 09:37:00 PM »

^ The term OBD is thinking of is 'certiorari.' Standing is something else.
Ah, yes, certiorari. My AP Gov teacher would be disappointed in me.

Considering that the plaintiff changed his regional party affiliation after FM Truman's initial post against the "Dishonest Alliance", I think this case can be pretty safely dismissed as frivolous. I look forward to seeing what our honorable justices have to say on the matter, though - I'm no legal expert.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2020, 08:13:22 AM »

^ The term OBD is thinking of is 'certiorari.' Standing is something else.
Ah, yes, certiorari. My AP Gov teacher would be disappointed in me.

Considering that the plaintiff changed his regional party affiliation after FM Truman's initial post against the "Dishonest Alliance", I think this case can be pretty safely dismissed as frivolous. I look forward to seeing what our honorable justices have to say on the matter, though - I'm no legal expert.
I could have changed it before I saw the post or I could have changed it after, there is no way to find out.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2020, 12:09:35 PM »

^ The term OBD is thinking of is 'certiorari.' Standing is something else.
Ah, yes, certiorari. My AP Gov teacher would be disappointed in me.

Considering that the plaintiff changed his regional party affiliation after FM Truman's initial post against the "Dishonest Alliance", I think this case can be pretty safely dismissed as frivolous. I look forward to seeing what our honorable justices have to say on the matter, though - I'm no legal expert.
I could have changed it before I saw the post or I could have changed it after, there is no way to find out.
You really are thick, are you?
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2020, 12:38:59 PM »

^ The term OBD is thinking of is 'certiorari.' Standing is something else.
Ah, yes, certiorari. My AP Gov teacher would be disappointed in me.

Considering that the plaintiff changed his regional party affiliation after FM Truman's initial post against the "Dishonest Alliance", I think this case can be pretty safely dismissed as frivolous. I look forward to seeing what our honorable justices have to say on the matter, though - I'm no legal expert.
I could have changed it before I saw the post or I could have changed it after, there is no way to find out.
You really are thick, are you?
I fully admit to being a pain in the ass.
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2020, 11:43:51 AM »

Anyways I'll do a "serious" legal argument here. And by serious I mean basically that "slander" is not a crime in Atlasia; at least not the kind of crime that would get him a trial.

I guess Ishan could theoretically make an argument for some sort of civil case but there is no provision for something like that in Atlasia.

This case is very reminiscent of the case "Suburban New Jersey Conservative v Tack50, MB, LouisvilleThunder, Adam Griffin"; where Suburban made the exact same claim that he had been slandered on Discord.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=320061.0

Interestingly if Truman did make a crime some day (or another Attorney General) it'd be a weird situation since he'd have to prosecute himelf. Of course in that case I'd either expect the president to fire him or alternatively for Congress to impeach him; we even have a sad precedent in Al in 2015. For a less severe event, maybe a special prosecutor of some sort could be appointed. But this is exclusively for academic purposes as nothing like that happened.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2020, 12:13:45 PM »

Due to this fake id that I owe a debt to Truman, or more likely, the Court isn't going to respond and the meme's over, I'm withdrawing this.

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