Differences between LA and the rest of the South

[walleye26]

Regarding LA, can somebody explain some big differences between it and the rest of the Deep South? I know that it’s more Catholic and Cajun, but does that matter a lot? Besides Atlanta, I know New Orleans has a fair amount of white liberals for the Deep South.
Is Louisiana better for Dems in state-level races like AG and Governor compared to the rest of the Deep South, or is John Bel Edwards the exception?

[lfromnj]

Its also incredibly pro life, I don't know any other state where most Democrats supported the heartbeat bill in the legislature.

[Alcibiades]

It has always been a bit of an anomaly. Much of it probably has to do with the French influence. Besides the cultural aspects, there are also idiosyncrasies such as it has a legal system with strong civil law influences, a simple majority of jurors is required to convict, and it has parishes, not counties.

Politically speaking, it was an exception in the South, with much of it stemming from the influence of Huey Long. As a result, many Democrats would run on economically progressive policies with minimal racist rhetoric, but nonetheless authoritarian tendencies. It was/is notoriously corrupt, with corruption not merely tolerated by voters, but described as a “way of life”.

Democrats hung on here for longer than other Deep South states. It voted much more like Upper South states such as Arkansas than Alabama. I suspect this is because of the Longite legacy, and voters associating the Democrats with actual economic policies rather than just ancestral attachment. Bill Clinton won there very handily in 1996, and if you look at the map he appealed to both Catholic Cajuns and the Protestant North.

These days, though, I don’t think its much stronger for Democrats than other Southern states. John Bel is more of fluke who beat a terrible opponent first time around then hung on last year because he has run a popular administration.

[Battista Minola 1616]

It has always been a bit of an anomaly. Much of it probably has to do with the French influence. Besides the cultural aspects, there are also idiosyncrasies such as it has a legal system with strong civil law influences, a simple majority of jurors is required to convict, and it has parishes, not counties.

Politically speaking, it was an exception in the South, with much of it stemming from the influence of Huey Long. As a result, many Democrats would run on economically progressive policies with minimal racist rhetoric, but nonetheless authoritarian tendencies. It was/is notoriously corrupt, with corruption not merely tolerated by voters, but described as a “way of life”.

Democrats hung on here for longer than other Deep South states. It voted much more like Upper South states such as Arkansas than Alabama. I suspect this is because of the Longite legacy, and voters associating the Democrats with actual economic policies rather than just ancestral attachment. Bill Clinton won there very handily in 1996, and if you look at the map he appealed to both Catholic Cajuns and the Protestant North.

These days, though, I don’t think its much stronger for Democrats than other Southern states. John Bel is more of fluke who beat a terrible opponent first time around then hung on last year because he has run a popular administration.

A simple majority of jurors to convict in what trials?
In criminal trials it has jury unanimity required since 2019, see also Ramos v. Louisiana

[Alcibiades]

It has always been a bit of an anomaly. Much of it probably has to do with the French influence. Besides the cultural aspects, there are also idiosyncrasies such as it has a legal system with strong civil law influences, a simple majority of jurors is required to convict, and it has parishes, not counties.

Politically speaking, it was an exception in the South, with much of it stemming from the influence of Huey Long. As a result, many Democrats would run on economically progressive policies with minimal racist rhetoric, but nonetheless authoritarian tendencies. It was/is notoriously corrupt, with corruption not merely tolerated by voters, but described as a “way of life”.

Democrats hung on here for longer than other Deep South states. It voted much more like Upper South states such as Arkansas than Alabama. I suspect this is because of the Longite legacy, and voters associating the Democrats with actual economic policies rather than just ancestral attachment. Bill Clinton won there very handily in 1996, and if you look at the map he appealed to both Catholic Cajuns and the Protestant North.

These days, though, I don’t think its much stronger for Democrats than other Southern states. John Bel is more of fluke who beat a terrible opponent first time around then hung on last year because he has run a popular administration.

A simple majority of jurors to convict in what trials?
In criminal trials it has jury unanimity required since 2019, see also Ramos v. Louisiana

I forgot it has been overturned. In criminal trials pre-2019 then.

[Battista Minola 1616]

It has always been a bit of an anomaly. Much of it probably has to do with the French influence. Besides the cultural aspects, there are also idiosyncrasies such as it has a legal system with strong civil law influences, a simple majority of jurors is required to convict, and it has parishes, not counties.

Politically speaking, it was an exception in the South, with much of it stemming from the influence of Huey Long. As a result, many Democrats would run on economically progressive policies with minimal racist rhetoric, but nonetheless authoritarian tendencies. It was/is notoriously corrupt, with corruption not merely tolerated by voters, but described as a “way of life”.

Democrats hung on here for longer than other Deep South states. It voted much more like Upper South states such as Arkansas than Alabama. I suspect this is because of the Longite legacy, and voters associating the Democrats with actual economic policies rather than just ancestral attachment. Bill Clinton won there very handily in 1996, and if you look at the map he appealed to both Catholic Cajuns and the Protestant North.

These days, though, I don’t think its much stronger for Democrats than other Southern states. John Bel is more of fluke who beat a terrible opponent first time around then hung on last year because he has run a popular administration.

A simple majority of jurors to convict in what trials?
In criminal trials it has jury unanimity required since 2019, see also Ramos v. Louisiana

I forgot it has been overturned. In criminal trials pre-2019 then.

No, it was not a simple majority, but a 10-2 one.

Which I don't think stemmed from civil law tradition. It was the same in Oregon too prior to that ruling.

Anyway, the rest of your post is very good.

[Alcibiades]

It has always been a bit of an anomaly. Much of it probably has to do with the French influence. Besides the cultural aspects, there are also idiosyncrasies such as it has a legal system with strong civil law influences, a simple majority of jurors is required to convict, and it has parishes, not counties.

Politically speaking, it was an exception in the South, with much of it stemming from the influence of Huey Long. As a result, many Democrats would run on economically progressive policies with minimal racist rhetoric, but nonetheless authoritarian tendencies. It was/is notoriously corrupt, with corruption not merely tolerated by voters, but described as a “way of life”.

Democrats hung on here for longer than other Deep South states. It voted much more like Upper South states such as Arkansas than Alabama. I suspect this is because of the Longite legacy, and voters associating the Democrats with actual economic policies rather than just ancestral attachment. Bill Clinton won there very handily in 1996, and if you look at the map he appealed to both Catholic Cajuns and the Protestant North.

These days, though, I don’t think its much stronger for Democrats than other Southern states. John Bel is more of fluke who beat a terrible opponent first time around then hung on last year because he has run a popular administration.

A simple majority of jurors to convict in what trials?
In criminal trials it has jury unanimity required since 2019, see also Ramos v. Louisiana

I forgot it has been overturned. In criminal trials pre-2019 then.

No, it was not a simple majority, but a 10-2 one.

Which I don't think stemmed from civil law tradition. It was the same in Oregon too prior to that ruling.

Anyway, the rest of your post is very good.

Thanks. Still quite idiosyncratic. I believe it was at least in part motivated to still be able to get racially charged convictions if some jurors were black.

[Battista Minola 1616]

It has always been a bit of an anomaly. Much of it probably has to do with the French influence. Besides the cultural aspects, there are also idiosyncrasies such as it has a legal system with strong civil law influences, a simple majority of jurors is required to convict, and it has parishes, not counties.

Politically speaking, it was an exception in the South, with much of it stemming from the influence of Huey Long. As a result, many Democrats would run on economically progressive policies with minimal racist rhetoric, but nonetheless authoritarian tendencies. It was/is notoriously corrupt, with corruption not merely tolerated by voters, but described as a “way of life”.

Democrats hung on here for longer than other Deep South states. It voted much more like Upper South states such as Arkansas than Alabama. I suspect this is because of the Longite legacy, and voters associating the Democrats with actual economic policies rather than just ancestral attachment. Bill Clinton won there very handily in 1996, and if you look at the map he appealed to both Catholic Cajuns and the Protestant North.

These days, though, I don’t think its much stronger for Democrats than other Southern states. John Bel is more of fluke who beat a terrible opponent first time around then hung on last year because he has run a popular administration.

A simple majority of jurors to convict in what trials?
In criminal trials it has jury unanimity required since 2019, see also Ramos v. Louisiana

I forgot it has been overturned. In criminal trials pre-2019 then.

No, it was not a simple majority, but a 10-2 one.

Which I don't think stemmed from civil law tradition. It was the same in Oregon too prior to that ruling.

Anyway, the rest of your post is very good.

Thanks. Still quite idiosyncratic. I believe it was at least in part motivated to still be able to get racially charged convictions if some jurors were black.

That is certainly part of the reason. Again, it's discussed in Ramos v. Louisiana.

(yes, sometimes I read Supreme Court decisions in full just because I can)

[darklordoftech]

- Less restrictive alcohol laws than the rest of the South
- Was protectionist when the rest of the South was for free trade

[Torie]

The query presupposes that the real estate north of Alexandria  is in the same state as what lies in the opposite direction. What on God's green earth do they teach at such vast expense  these days to current lord of the flies cohort in what are so charitably described as "secondary schools?" Wait, don't answer. I don't want to know.

[gerritcole]

Did the KKK have a large presence in LA considering the Catholic population

[DINGO Joe]

Did the KKK have a large presence in LA considering the Catholic population

I dunno, what state did David Duke run in?

[Hope For A New Era]

Its also incredibly pro life, I don't know any other state where most Democrats supported the heartbeat bill in the legislature.

Probably the Deep South + Catholic combination.

John Bel is more of fluke who beat a terrible opponent first time around then hung on last year because he has run a popular administration.

Looking at who and where he won in his elections, it really seems like he's almost a one-man third party.