For the first time ever, USA Today endorses a candidate: Joe Biden

[Big Abraham]

This time when it was a question of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump, there was a full consensus of the board not just to dis-endorse Donald Trump again, but to go that extra step and endorse Joe Biden, who is a less polarizing and less controversial figure than Hillary Clinton.

The effect of the decades-spanning demonization of Hillary simply can't be over-stated.*


*Which is super frustrating because her resume alone probably made her the most qualified presidential nominee in American history (at least, up until Biden himself was nominated), but as soon as you say the name "Hillary," people become filled with such a visceral hatred: conservatives think she's a full-on communist, progressives think she's to the right of W., & all she really would've been is the most boring, business-as-usual President of all time... but I digress.

You truly underestimate how dangerous the "boring, business-as-usual" ones are.

You know what, you're right. Everything's just been going splendidly with an 'attention-preoccupying, shake-things-up' kind of President, as 220K-&-counting definitely-still-alive Americans can surely attest. The "boring, business-as-usual" lady definitely would've been 1000x more dangerous, amirite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[Ferguson97]

This time when it was a question of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump, there was a full consensus of the board not just to dis-endorse Donald Trump again, but to go that extra step and endorse Joe Biden, who is a less polarizing and less controversial figure than Hillary Clinton.

The effect of the decades-spanning demonization of Hillary simply can't be over-stated.*


*Which is super frustrating because her resume alone probably made her the most qualified presidential nominee in American history (at least, up until Biden himself was nominated), but as soon as you say the name "Hillary," people become filled with such a visceral hatred: conservatives think she's a full-on communist, progressives think she's to the right of W., & all she really would've been is the most boring, business-as-usual President of all time... but I digress.

You truly underestimate how dangerous the "boring, business-as-usual" ones are.

You know what, you're right. Everything's just been going splendidly with an 'attention-preoccupying, shake-things-up' kind of President, as 220K-&-counting definitely-still-alive Americans can surely attest. The "boring, business-as-usual" lady definitely would've been 1000x more dangerous, amirite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

If you start throwing around accusations of logical fallacies, you've lost the argument. 

[Big Abraham]

This time when it was a question of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump, there was a full consensus of the board not just to dis-endorse Donald Trump again, but to go that extra step and endorse Joe Biden, who is a less polarizing and less controversial figure than Hillary Clinton.

The effect of the decades-spanning demonization of Hillary simply can't be over-stated.*


*Which is super frustrating because her resume alone probably made her the most qualified presidential nominee in American history (at least, up until Biden himself was nominated), but as soon as you say the name "Hillary," people become filled with such a visceral hatred: conservatives think she's a full-on communist, progressives think she's to the right of W., & all she really would've been is the most boring, business-as-usual President of all time... but I digress.

You truly underestimate how dangerous the "boring, business-as-usual" ones are.

You know what, you're right. Everything's just been going splendidly with an 'attention-preoccupying, shake-things-up' kind of President, as 220K-&-counting definitely-still-alive Americans can surely attest. The "boring, business-as-usual" lady definitely would've been 1000x more dangerous, amirite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

If you start throwing around accusations of logical fallacies, you've lost the argument.  

If you think that, then you don't know anything about logical fallacies, or arguments

[Ferguson97]

This time when it was a question of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump, there was a full consensus of the board not just to dis-endorse Donald Trump again, but to go that extra step and endorse Joe Biden, who is a less polarizing and less controversial figure than Hillary Clinton.

The effect of the decades-spanning demonization of Hillary simply can't be over-stated.*


*Which is super frustrating because her resume alone probably made her the most qualified presidential nominee in American history (at least, up until Biden himself was nominated), but as soon as you say the name "Hillary," people become filled with such a visceral hatred: conservatives think she's a full-on communist, progressives think she's to the right of W., & all she really would've been is the most boring, business-as-usual President of all time... but I digress.

You truly underestimate how dangerous the "boring, business-as-usual" ones are.

You know what, you're right. Everything's just been going splendidly with an 'attention-preoccupying, shake-things-up' kind of President, as 220K-&-counting definitely-still-alive Americans can surely attest. The "boring, business-as-usual" lady definitely would've been 1000x more dangerous, amirite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

If you start throwing around accusations of logical fallacies, you've lost the argument.  

If you think that, then you don't know anything about logical fallacies, or arguments

This isn't your sophomore philosophy class. Yelling out "ad hominem", "begging the question", "overwhelming exception!" isn't how real people argue.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

This time when it was a question of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump, there was a full consensus of the board not just to dis-endorse Donald Trump again, but to go that extra step and endorse Joe Biden, who is a less polarizing and less controversial figure than Hillary Clinton.

The effect of the decades-spanning demonization of Hillary simply can't be over-stated.*


*Which is super frustrating because her resume alone probably made her the most qualified presidential nominee in American history (at least, up until Biden himself was nominated), but as soon as you say the name "Hillary," people become filled with such a visceral hatred: conservatives think she's a full-on communist, progressives think she's to the right of W., & all she really would've been is the most boring, business-as-usual President of all time... but I digress.

I think more or less handing her a safe Senate seat on a silver platter in 2000 was a mistake.

She should have gone back to Arkansas and tried running there and if she couldn't pull it off, then that should have been it for her.

Instead, she coasted along on goodwill from her husband and managed to become a presidential nominee before it became clear just how terrible she is at politics.

[Big Abraham]

This time when it was a question of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump, there was a full consensus of the board not just to dis-endorse Donald Trump again, but to go that extra step and endorse Joe Biden, who is a less polarizing and less controversial figure than Hillary Clinton.

The effect of the decades-spanning demonization of Hillary simply can't be over-stated.*


*Which is super frustrating because her resume alone probably made her the most qualified presidential nominee in American history (at least, up until Biden himself was nominated), but as soon as you say the name "Hillary," people become filled with such a visceral hatred: conservatives think she's a full-on communist, progressives think she's to the right of W., & all she really would've been is the most boring, business-as-usual President of all time... but I digress.

You truly underestimate how dangerous the "boring, business-as-usual" ones are.

You know what, you're right. Everything's just been going splendidly with an 'attention-preoccupying, shake-things-up' kind of President, as 220K-&-counting definitely-still-alive Americans can surely attest. The "boring, business-as-usual" lady definitely would've been 1000x more dangerous, amirite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

If you start throwing around accusations of logical fallacies, you've lost the argument.  

If you think that, then you don't know anything about logical fallacies, or arguments

This isn't your sophomore philosophy class. Yelling out "ad hominem", "begging the question", "overwhelming exception!" isn't how real people argue.

Do you want an argument that's correct, or one that only reflects how "real" people argue? If your standard is the latter, then I further reiterate my point that you don't know anything about arguments

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

This time when it was a question of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump, there was a full consensus of the board not just to dis-endorse Donald Trump again, but to go that extra step and endorse Joe Biden, who is a less polarizing and less controversial figure than Hillary Clinton.

The effect of the decades-spanning demonization of Hillary simply can't be over-stated.*


*Which is super frustrating because her resume alone probably made her the most qualified presidential nominee in American history (at least, up until Biden himself was nominated), but as soon as you say the name "Hillary," people become filled with such a visceral hatred: conservatives think she's a full-on communist, progressives think she's to the right of W., & all she really would've been is the most boring, business-as-usual President of all time... but I digress.

Resumes are not the be all and end all of success in politics.  I was against Hillary in the 2016 Democratic race not because I thought she'd be a horrible president, but because I thought she'd be a horrible candidate, and I was right.

[politics_king]

Stop

And you are who?

I have to ask you the same question.