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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2020, 12:33:07 AM »

I voted for Hillary in 2016. Because of the violence and clear marxist revolution Trump will be getting my vote.

People are angry at what they see in the streets of our cities right now.

I knew the rioting and violence were a mistake. Don't vote for Trump just because of that, please. Not all of us Democrats and Democratic leaners supported them or support them. Don't punish us all because of the actions of a few.

I don't believe that there are many Democrats that don't support the riots.  If I'm wrong, then the silence is downright deafening.

What good is a political party that cannot formally object to rioting, looting, arson, and violence toward individuals sponsored by BLM and Antifa in 40 American cities?  This isn't tough; rioting and violence aren't the way a decent society resolves it's differences.

What good is a political party that grossly distorts a narrative about blacks dying routinely by the guns of police officers while ignoring the fact that the violence in prodominantly black communities is brought by residents of those very communities, most of the violent members of violent criminal gangs?  What good is a political party that will not be honest and state that blacks commit significantly more crimes per capita than any other demographic group, or pretends that this has nothing to do with any of the pressing issues in criminal justice today.

How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't confront wrongdoing simply because the wrongdoers hate Trump, and MIGHT vote for him?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't condemn the Marxist violence in a clear and unequivocal manner?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't tell violent Mobs that there is nothing to talk about until the violence stops completely?

Is rioting OK?  Is the sort of nihilistic violence going on OK?  Should it be unequivocally rebuked and condemned?  Should these Marxist Mobs believe that they don't have a friend of consequence in politics due to their own violent actions?  These are NOT hard questions.  Donald Trump, warts and all, comes up with the right answers to these questions.  Joe Biden?  He hasn't picked up the pencil.

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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2020, 12:48:42 AM »

I voted for Hillary in 2016. Because of the violence and clear marxist revolution Trump will be getting my vote.

People are angry at what they see in the streets of our cities right now.

I knew the rioting and violence were a mistake. Don't vote for Trump just because of that, please. Not all of us Democrats and Democratic leaners supported them or support them. Don't punish us all because of the actions of a few.

I don't believe that there are many Democrats that don't support the riots.  If I'm wrong, then the silence is downright deafening.

What good is a political party that cannot formally object to rioting, looting, arson, and violence toward individuals sponsored by BLM and Antifa in 40 American cities?  This isn't tough; rioting and violence aren't the way a decent society resolves it's differences.

What good is a political party that grossly distorts a narrative about blacks dying routinely by the guns of police officers while ignoring the fact that the violence in prodominantly black communities is brought by residents of those very communities, most of the violent members of violent criminal gangs?  What good is a political party that will not be honest and state that blacks commit significantly more crimes per capita than any other demographic group, or pretends that this has nothing to do with any of the pressing issues in criminal justice today.

How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't confront wrongdoing simply because the wrongdoers hate Trump, and MIGHT vote for him?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't condemn the Marxist violence in a clear and unequivocal manner?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't tell violent Mobs that there is nothing to talk about until the violence stops completely?

Is rioting OK?  Is the sort of nihilistic violence going on OK?  Should it be unequivocally rebuked and condemned?  Should these Marxist Mobs believe that they don't have a friend of consequence in politics due to their own violent actions?  These are NOT hard questions.  Donald Trump, warts and all, comes up with the right answers to these questions.  Joe Biden?  He hasn't picked up the pencil.

If Trump has all the right answers, why is this happening in the fourth year of his administration? The reality is Joe Biden has not been silent:

Joe Biden issues emotional plea calling for an end to riots: ‘We are a nation enraged’

""Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.

The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-riots-emotional-plea-george-floyd-protests-a9541481.html
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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2020, 12:52:29 AM »

I voted for Hillary in 2016. Because of the violence and clear marxist revolution Trump will be getting my vote.

People are angry at what they see in the streets of our cities right now.

I knew the rioting and violence were a mistake. Don't vote for Trump just because of that, please. Not all of us Democrats and Democratic leaners supported them or support them. Don't punish us all because of the actions of a few.

I don't believe that there are many Democrats that don't support the riots.  If I'm wrong, then the silence is downright deafening.

What good is a political party that cannot formally object to rioting, looting, arson, and violence toward individuals sponsored by BLM and Antifa in 40 American cities?  This isn't tough; rioting and violence aren't the way a decent society resolves it's differences.

What good is a political party that grossly distorts a narrative about blacks dying routinely by the guns of police officers while ignoring the fact that the violence in prodominantly black communities is brought by residents of those very communities, most of the violent members of violent criminal gangs?  What good is a political party that will not be honest and state that blacks commit significantly more crimes per capita than any other demographic group, or pretends that this has nothing to do with any of the pressing issues in criminal justice today.

How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't confront wrongdoing simply because the wrongdoers hate Trump, and MIGHT vote for him?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't condemn the Marxist violence in a clear and unequivocal manner?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't tell violent Mobs that there is nothing to talk about until the violence stops completely?

Is rioting OK?  Is the sort of nihilistic violence going on OK?  Should it be unequivocally rebuked and condemned?  Should these Marxist Mobs believe that they don't have a friend of consequence in politics due to their own violent actions?  These are NOT hard questions.  Donald Trump, warts and all, comes up with the right answers to these questions.  Joe Biden?  He hasn't picked up the pencil.

If Trump has all the right answers, why is this happening in the fourth year of his administration? The reality is Joe Biden has not been silent:

Joe Biden issues emotional plea calling for an end to riots: ‘We are a nation enraged’

""Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.

The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-riots-emotional-plea-george-floyd-protests-a9541481.html

The protesters should tell the person who wrote the racist crack cocaine sentencing law to shove off.
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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2020, 01:05:42 AM »

I voted for Hillary in 2016. Because of the violence and clear marxist revolution Trump will be getting my vote.

People are angry at what they see in the streets of our cities right now.

I knew the rioting and violence were a mistake. Don't vote for Trump just because of that, please. Not all of us Democrats and Democratic leaners supported them or support them. Don't punish us all because of the actions of a few.

I don't believe that there are many Democrats that don't support the riots.  If I'm wrong, then the silence is downright deafening.

What good is a political party that cannot formally object to rioting, looting, arson, and violence toward individuals sponsored by BLM and Antifa in 40 American cities?  This isn't tough; rioting and violence aren't the way a decent society resolves it's differences.

What good is a political party that grossly distorts a narrative about blacks dying routinely by the guns of police officers while ignoring the fact that the violence in prodominantly black communities is brought by residents of those very communities, most of the violent members of violent criminal gangs?  What good is a political party that will not be honest and state that blacks commit significantly more crimes per capita than any other demographic group, or pretends that this has nothing to do with any of the pressing issues in criminal justice today.

How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't confront wrongdoing simply because the wrongdoers hate Trump, and MIGHT vote for him?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't condemn the Marxist violence in a clear and unequivocal manner?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't tell violent Mobs that there is nothing to talk about until the violence stops completely?

Is rioting OK?  Is the sort of nihilistic violence going on OK?  Should it be unequivocally rebuked and condemned?  Should these Marxist Mobs believe that they don't have a friend of consequence in politics due to their own violent actions?  These are NOT hard questions.  Donald Trump, warts and all, comes up with the right answers to these questions.  Joe Biden?  He hasn't picked up the pencil.

If Trump has all the right answers, why is this happening in the fourth year of his administration? The reality is Joe Biden has not been silent:

Joe Biden issues emotional plea calling for an end to riots: ‘We are a nation enraged’

""Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.

The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-riots-emotional-plea-george-floyd-protests-a9541481.html

      It's good to hear Biden say that, but I doubt he would be very effective in stopping the violence if he were sitting in the Oval Office. Doesn't help that many mayors and city councils with his party have been busy defunding the police and trying to take away the tools they need to control riots in a non-lethal fashion.

     At the end of the day, the President has to work with his party. I know that not all Democrats are radicals, but there are enough of them among your ranks that it won't be easy for a President Biden to stop the violence either. With that said, I sincerely hope that you will succeed in putting out from your camp the radicals who want to cause violence and that cooler heads will prevail.
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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2020, 02:01:50 AM »

I voted for Hillary in 2016. Because of the violence and clear marxist revolution Trump will be getting my vote.

People are angry at what they see in the streets of our cities right now.

I knew the rioting and violence were a mistake. Don't vote for Trump just because of that, please. Not all of us Democrats and Democratic leaners supported them or support them. Don't punish us all because of the actions of a few.

I don't believe that there are many Democrats that don't support the riots.  If I'm wrong, then the silence is downright deafening.

What good is a political party that cannot formally object to rioting, looting, arson, and violence toward individuals sponsored by BLM and Antifa in 40 American cities?  This isn't tough; rioting and violence aren't the way a decent society resolves it's differences.

What good is a political party that grossly distorts a narrative about blacks dying routinely by the guns of police officers while ignoring the fact that the violence in prodominantly black communities is brought by residents of those very communities, most of the violent members of violent criminal gangs?  What good is a political party that will not be honest and state that blacks commit significantly more crimes per capita than any other demographic group, or pretends that this has nothing to do with any of the pressing issues in criminal justice today.

How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't confront wrongdoing simply because the wrongdoers hate Trump, and MIGHT vote for him?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't condemn the Marxist violence in a clear and unequivocal manner?  How can Joe Biden lead America when he can't tell violent Mobs that there is nothing to talk about until the violence stops completely?

Is rioting OK?  Is the sort of nihilistic violence going on OK?  Should it be unequivocally rebuked and condemned?  Should these Marxist Mobs believe that they don't have a friend of consequence in politics due to their own violent actions?  These are NOT hard questions.  Donald Trump, warts and all, comes up with the right answers to these questions.  Joe Biden?  He hasn't picked up the pencil.

If Trump has all the right answers, why is this happening in the fourth year of his administration? The reality is Joe Biden has not been silent:

Joe Biden issues emotional plea calling for an end to riots: ‘We are a nation enraged’

""Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.

The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-riots-emotional-plea-george-floyd-protests-a9541481.html

      It's good to hear Biden say that, but I doubt he would be very effective in stopping the violence if he were sitting in the Oval Office. Doesn't help that many mayors and city councils with his party have been busy defunding the police and trying to take away the tools they need to control riots in a non-lethal fashion.

     At the end of the day, the President has to work with his party. I know that not all Democrats are radicals, but there are enough of them among your ranks that it won't be easy for a President Biden to stop the violence either. With that said, I sincerely hope that you will succeed in putting out from your camp the radicals who want to cause violence and that cooler heads will prevail.
At the very least, Biden would make the attempt to reach out to the mayors in states across the country to ask what resources they need to stop the riots happening in their cities. Trump didn't act for far too long in this regard until the riots in various cities got out of hand, and as a result, helped to create an environment where radicals believed they would be able to riot with minimal consequence.
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« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2020, 02:20:08 AM »

I voted for Hillary in 2016. Because of the violence and clear marxist revolution Trump will be getting my vote.

People are angry at what they see in the streets of our cities right now.

I knew the rioting and violence were a mistake. Don't vote for Trump just because of that, please. Not all of us Democrats and Democratic leaners supported them or support them. Don't punish us all because of the actions of a few.

And I am an example of someone who the protests and response flipped in the opposite direction. Stop using anecdotes to draw a conclusion! Biden and these idiots in the streets are not on the same team, and only diehard Republicans see it that way.
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« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2020, 08:11:09 AM »

I endorse Biden but I have no special and unique desire to boot Trump out, my presidential preference has nothing to do with Trump's handling of COVID-19 or race relations, and I hate partisan rhetoric and harsh comments on Trump.

I am proof that all Biden supporters are idealistic liberals!

Oh wait...
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« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2020, 02:55:43 PM »

By that same metric, DTT: I voted for Ted Cruz in 2018 and plan on voting Republican downballot this November.  And I cannot wait to vote for anybody but Donald J. Trump.  My singular goal is to boot him, his family, and his associates from the White House.  

My existence is absolute proof that Republicans will overwhelmingly vote for Biden. 

If one's world is Atlas, or the University, one would conclude that.

In the real everyday working world I live in, every registered Republican I know is voting for Trump.
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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2020, 02:58:15 PM »

By that same metric, DTT: I voted for Ted Cruz in 2018 and plan on voting Republican downballot this November.  And I cannot wait to vote for anybody but Donald J. Trump.  My singular goal is to boot him, his family, and his associates from the White House.  

My existence is absolute proof that Republicans will overwhelmingly vote for Biden. 

If one's world is Atlas, or the University, one would conclude that.

In the real everyday working world I live in, every registered Republican I know is voting for Trump.

I was trying to make a point, Fuzzy Tongue
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« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2020, 03:17:30 PM »

By that same metric, DTT: I voted for Ted Cruz in 2018 and plan on voting Republican downballot this November.  And I cannot wait to vote for anybody but Donald J. Trump.  My singular goal is to boot him, his family, and his associates from the White House.  

My existence is absolute proof that Republicans will overwhelmingly vote for Biden. 

If one's world is Atlas, or the University, one would conclude that.

In the real everyday working world I live in, every registered Republican I know is voting for Trump.

I was trying to make a point, Fuzzy Tongue

I get that.  The statement reminded me, however, of how Betty Friedan, a resident of NYC's Upper East Side, could not understand why McGovern lost.  After all, she didn't know anyone that voted for Nixon.

Atlas Republicans for Biden are bigger than the real Democrats for Nixon in 1972.  Atlas Republicans aren't typical of the GOP as a whole.
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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2020, 03:22:15 PM »

By that same metric, DTT: I voted for Ted Cruz in 2018 and plan on voting Republican downballot this November.  And I cannot wait to vote for anybody but Donald J. Trump.  My singular goal is to boot him, his family, and his associates from the White House.  

My existence is absolute proof that Republicans will overwhelmingly vote for Biden. 

If one's world is Atlas, or the University, one would conclude that.

In the real everyday working world I live in, every registered Republican I know is voting for Trump.

I was trying to make a point, Fuzzy Tongue

I get that.  The statement reminded me, however, of how Betty Friedan, a resident of NYC's Upper East Side, could not understand why McGovern lost.  After all, she didn't know anyone that voted for Nixon.

Atlas Republicans for Biden are bigger than the real Democrats for Nixon in 1972.  Atlas Republicans aren't typical of the GOP as a whole.

Oh, you don't need to tell me.  I know that I'm a rare creature in the GOP. 
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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2020, 03:27:36 PM »

So wait, who am I supposed to vote for if I support the Marxist revolution?
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« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2020, 03:44:15 PM »

i'm proof of the intelligence gap, bcuz im f!cking stupid lmao
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« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2020, 03:59:55 PM »

So wait, who am I supposed to vote for if I support the Marxist revolution?
La Riva? Tongue
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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2020, 05:51:15 AM »

i'm proof of the intelligence gap, bcuz im f!cking stupid lmao

You always make my days better.
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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2020, 07:45:59 PM »

I voted for Hillary in 2016. Because of the violence and clear marxist revolution Trump will be getting my vote.

People are angry at what they see in the streets of our cities right now.

I knew the rioting and violence were a mistake. Don't vote for Trump just because of that, please. Not all of us Democrats and Democratic leaners supported them or support them. Don't punish us all because of the actions of a few.

lol - weren't you supporting Trump yourself at one point?
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