BREAKING: second presidential debate canceleld

[brucejoel99]

Did they say what the plans were for the final debate yet?

It'll be conducted as originally agreed to (basically a repeat of the 1st debate but with Kristen Welker moderating instead of Chris Wallace). As of right now, it won't be a make-up town-hall.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Man, I was really excited to see Steve Scully moderating

[Pulaski]

I’m increasingly doubting whether the Republican Party will turn itself around after this. It seems that Trump has ended any shred of credibility of this party to the vast majority of Young people and powerbrokers that aren’t megadonors—and there’s only so much they can take too.

We’re up for D domination for 8 whole years.

I thought a similar thing about the conservative party here from 2007-2009; after being dumped out of federal office in 2007, they weren’t in government in any state or territory for over a year. The Labor PM frequently recorded approval ratings approaching 70%, and then in late 2009 the conservatives elected their most right-wing unpopular leader in their history. “No way they can come back from that,” I thought.

11 years later, they’ve been in power federally for 7 years, hold numerous state governments (including mine) and the federal Labor party is a directionless husk.

Never underestimate the power of conservatives to appeal to people’s fear, selfishness and ignorance of history.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Did they say what the plans were for the final debate yet?

It'll be conducted as originally agreed to (basically a repeat of the 1st debate but with Kristen Welker moderating instead of Chris Wallace). As of right now, it won't be a make-up town-hall.

That’s too bad, the third debate is always less interesting and too focused on foreign policy (which most voters don’t care about and most candidates don’t even really differ on)

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I’m increasingly doubting whether the Republican Party will turn itself around after this. It seems that Trump has ended any shred of credibility of this party to the vast majority of Young people and powerbrokers that aren’t megadonors—and there’s only so much they can take too.

We’re up for D domination for 8 whole years.

I thought a similar thing about the conservative party here from 2007-2009; after being dumped out of federal office in 2007, they weren’t in government in any state or territory for over a year. The Labor PM frequently recorded approval ratings approaching 70%, and then in late 2009 the conservatives elected their most right-wing unpopular leader in their history. “No way they can come back from that,” I thought.

11 years later, they’ve been in power federally for 7 years, hold numerous state governments (including mine) and the federal Labor party is a directionless husk.

Never underestimate the power of conservatives to appeal to people’s fear, selfishness and ignorance of history.

Republicans were a "dead party" for a whopping two years after Obama's election. I still remember when this came out:



So yeah, Democratic control for eight years isn't a terrible prediction. But we're still going to be dealing with these amoral assholes for years to come and all that matters is how they continue to evolve and the way the electorate responds.

(Although, if Texas becomes a solid blue state after the next decade, Republican dominance would probably be limited to state and congressional elections for a while.)

[2952-0-0]

I’m increasingly doubting whether the Republican Party will turn itself around after this. It seems that Trump has ended any shred of credibility of this party to the vast majority of Young people and powerbrokers that aren’t megadonors—and there’s only so much they can take too.

We’re up for D domination for 8 whole years.

I thought a similar thing about the conservative party here from 2007-2009; after being dumped out of federal office in 2007, they weren’t in government in any state or territory for over a year. The Labor PM frequently recorded approval ratings approaching 70%, and then in late 2009 the conservatives elected their most right-wing unpopular leader in their history. “No way they can come back from that,” I thought.

11 years later, they’ve been in power federally for 7 years, hold numerous state governments (including mine) and the federal Labor party is a directionless husk.

Never underestimate the power of conservatives to appeal to people’s fear, selfishness and ignorance of history.

Sounds a lot like Canada after Trudeau's election in 2015. Within two years, right-wing populists were in power in many provinces. Thankfully, the federal Conservatives were led by someone who was clueless about his own citizenship.

Trumpism will survive Trump.

[NewYorkExpress]

Too late.

The VP debate should have been canceled.

The third debate needs to be canceled, TODAY!

[Jay 🏳️‍⚧️]

I’m increasingly doubting whether the Republican Party will turn itself around after this. It seems that Trump has ended any shred of credibility of this party to the vast majority of Young people and powerbrokers that aren’t megadonors—and there’s only so much they can take too.

We’re up for D domination for 8 whole years.

The American electorate has the remarkable ability to always align itself so that elections are usually 50/50. I wouldn't count the Republicans out.

[DaleCooper]

The only reason that I think Republicanism is (possibly quite a bit) more endangered than it was in 2008 is because now Republicans have alienated two entire generations for sure, and possibly an entire gender. I don't think that the ground the GOP lost with women, or even educated whites, will be made up any time soon, but I suppose it could happen. That said, I don't think that the GOP will ever make any headway with Gen Z or Millennials.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The only reason that I think Republicanism is (possibly quite a bit) more endangered than it was in 2008 is because now Republicans have alienated two entire generations for sure, and possibly an entire gender. I don't think that the ground the GOP lost with women, or even educated whites, will be made up any time soon, but I suppose it could happen. That said, I don't think that the GOP will ever make any headway with Gen Z or Millennials.

Well even after all this the republicans aren’t as bad shape as the Tories were in 1997 and the Tories didn’t eventually come back

[DaleCooper]

The only reason that I think Republicanism is (possibly quite a bit) more endangered than it was in 2008 is because now Republicans have alienated two entire generations for sure, and possibly an entire gender. I don't think that the ground the GOP lost with women, or even educated whites, will be made up any time soon, but I suppose it could happen. That said, I don't think that the GOP will ever make any headway with Gen Z or Millennials.

Well even after all this the republicans aren’t as bad shape as the Tories were in 1997 and the Tories didn’t eventually come back

I should also add that I don't believe that the Republican electorate will stop nominating men like Trump or Marjorie Taylor Green type candidates in the House. And if that's the case then they're toast.

[Hope For A New Era]

I’m increasingly doubting whether the Republican Party will turn itself around after this. It seems that Trump has ended any shred of credibility of this party to the vast majority of Young people and powerbrokers that aren’t megadonors—and there’s only so much they can take too.

We’re up for D domination for 8 whole years.

The American electorate has the remarkable ability to always align itself so that elections are usually 50/50. I wouldn't count the Republicans out.

It can hold itself off of 50/50 for a while, like in the 1930s. We'll see what happens. I think polarization is too high to do another 1930s now, but with the Republicans pushing away two consecutive generations, I think we could see a period of time of "polarized Democratic dominance" - like if Minnesota (consistently 55% D, 45% R) were scaled up to the size of the entire country.

[ugabug]

I've become increasingly convinced that debates are a waste of time as well, especially in an election such as this.

Agreed. Especially when the moderators to think their only job is to ask questions and then move on to the next question without any sort of followup or fact checking for the candidates.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I wouldn't go to the third debate, if I was Biden, Graham refused to get tested

[politics_king]

https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1314694262672494600

Don't blame him.

[Non Swing Voter]

I've become increasingly convinced that debates are a waste of time as well, especially in an election such as this.

Agreed. Especially when the moderators to think their only job is to ask questions and then move on to the next question without any sort of followup or fact checking for the candidates.

And let one candidate go a minute over time every question thereby getting twice as much time to talk.  I think Biden and Harris benefited from this though.  Provided less sound clips for Republicans to use in ads.