Israel and national security

[Inverted Things]

True or false: Our allegience with Israel is the greatest threat to our national security.

Discuss.

[opebo]

It is one of the biggest, and symptomatic of the whole problem - imperialist meddling. 

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

False.  Our economic dependence on petroleum is greatest threat to our national security.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Not neccesarily it, but the way the US bows over to Israel's every demand and completely ignores Israel doing things like stealing classified military technology is definitely is part of it. Imagine if France had done half the stuff Israel had in espionage against the US.

[J. J.]

Not neccesarily it, but the way the US bows over to Israel's every demand and completely ignores Israel doing things like stealing classified military technology is definitely is part of it. Imagine if France had done half the stuff Israel had in espionage against the US.

The way we "bowed" to them when we sold the Saudis the AWAC's?

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Not neccesarily it, but the way the US bows over to Israel's every demand and completely ignores Israel doing things like stealing classified military technology is definitely is part of it. Imagine if France had done half the stuff Israel had in espionage against the US.

The way we "bowed" to them when we sold the Saudis the AWAC's?

I don't know about that but we certainly did give them a free pass after they intentionally attacked a ship of the US Navy, which is unforgivable.

www.ussliberty.org

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

True or false: Our allegience with Israel is the greatest threat to our national security.

Discuss.

*sighs...wanting to learn grammar from Ernest instead of always discussing religion*

answer is FALSE....God will destroy all nations arrayed against Israel.  So, it is better to have to protect ourselves from the anti-Zionists humans than from a Zionist God.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

OK, let's say those Molodet guys someonw win control of the Israeli government. They decide to carry out their plans for a greater Israel by first seizing the Palestinean territories and ethnically cleansing them, and carry out a genocide of all the Palestineans living there. Then they start carrying out wars of agression against neighboring countries. Is it wrong to oppose Israel then? Does God only support genocide and imperalism when Israel is doing it? Does God also demand that nations unconditionally support Israel even when they stab us in the back and steal our military secrets?

I also bet the Christian Palestinean population doesn't share your view either.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

OK, let's say those Molodet guys someonw win control of the Israeli government. They decide to carry out their plans for a greater Israel by first seizing the Palestinean territories and ethnically cleansing them, and carry out a genocide of all the Palestineans living there. Then they start carrying out wars of agression against neighboring countries. Is it wrong to oppose Israel then? Does God only support genocide and imperalism when Israel is doing it? Does God also demand that nations unconditionally support Israel even when they stab us in the back and steal our military secrets?

I also bet the Christian Palestinean population doesn't share your view either.

I am not saying that it is wrong to be neutral towards Israel, I'm just saying that, irregardless of Israel's past current and future actions, God will destroy all nations hostile towards Israel, even the ones he himself sent to punish Israel for Israel’s own sins.

[Inverted Things]

Not neccesarily it, but the way the US bows over to Israel's every demand and completely ignores Israel doing things like stealing classified military technology is definitely is part of it. Imagine if France had done half the stuff Israel had in espionage against the US.

The way we "bowed" to them when we sold the Saudis the AWAC's?

I don't know about that but we certainly did give them a free pass after they intentionally attacked a ship of the US Navy, which is unforgivable.

www.ussliberty.org

I'm with States here.

Not neccesarily it, but the way the US bows over to Israel's every demand and completely ignores Israel doing things like stealing classified military technology is definitely is part of it. Imagine if France had done half the stuff Israel had in espionage against the US.

And with BRTD here.

OK, let's say those Molodet guys someonw win control of the Israeli government. They decide to carry out their plans for a greater Israel by first seizing the Palestinean territories and ethnically cleansing them, and carry out a genocide of all the Palestineans living there. Then they start carrying out wars of agression against neighboring countries. Is it wrong to oppose Israel then? Does God only support genocide and imperalism when Israel is doing it? Does God also demand that nations unconditionally support Israel even when they stab us in the back and steal our military secrets?

I also bet the Christian Palestinean population doesn't share your view either.

I am not saying that it is wrong to be neutral towards Israel, I'm just saying that, irregardless of Israel's past current and future actions, God will destroy all nations hostile towards Israel, even the ones he himself sent to punish Israel for Israel’s own sins.

This friend of yours, God, sounds like a singularly irrational being. I suppose immortality is kind of boring and he has to find ways to amuse himself though.

Anyways, I'm saying it's wrong to have as our "greatest ally" a warmonger who refuses to compromise. While not the greatest threat to our national security, it breeds hatred towards us in an unstable region. Hatred in an unstable region is something we don't want.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

False.  Our economic dependence on petroleum is greatest threat to our national security.

[opebo]

I am not saying that it is wrong

Objective morality doesn't exist...

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God is just a fantasy of yours.

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Sin is also something you imagine.

What a post full of meaningless babble about your subjective preferrences and fantasies, jmfcst.

[Gabu]

I am not saying that it is wrong to be neutral towards Israel, I'm just saying that, irregardless of Israel's past current and future actions, God will destroy all nations hostile towards Israel, even the ones he himself sent to punish Israel for Israel’s own sins.

If I converted to Judaism and somehow became prime minister of Israel, could I then do whatever the heck I wanted to every other nation in the world and have God simply destroy all who oppose me?

Because if so, that sounds like a pretty sweet deal.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

I am not saying that it is wrong to be neutral towards Israel, I'm just saying that, irregardless of Israel's past current and future actions, God will destroy all nations hostile towards Israel, even the ones he himself sent to punish Israel for Israel’s own sins.

If I converted to Judaism and somehow became prime minister of Israel, could I then do whatever the heck I wanted to every other nation in the world and have God simply destroy all who oppose me?

Because if so, that sounds like a pretty sweet deal.

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