Was Sanders ever really questioned about "freeloading" in society?

[sg0508]

I think this is perhaps one of the key facets that needed to be addressed more clearly, especially with a candidate with his platform.  I think what the Sanders campaign miscalculated, is that there are many, many people under 30, +/(-) a few years who do work hard, make a decent living, paid their dues, pay their bills, paid their debts, are financially successful and don't want to be burdened with taking care of society dead-weight (their fault or not).  The more the man kept talking about "free, free, free", the more he seemed to actually aggravate those young Americans who have made something of themselves, and don't want to deal with squatters, and those that are lazy.  Sure, many do work hard and still fail, but I believe he created quite a bit of anger the more he yapped about "free, free, free".  Warren's campaign essentially ended the minute she sounded like him.

You could make the argument that given how polarizing his platform is, that his team knew that his demographic draw was going to be narrow, and that his chance was to draw out a huge amount of young voters to offset everyone else.  It's very possible.

Why do you think the freeloading deal though was never addressed or asked to him more directly or consistently? Is it politically incorrect, the Democrats don't want to go near that to avoid losing a slew of voters, or something else? We all know Romney's "47% comment" effectively ended his 2012 challenge to Obama.

I actually wonder how he would have answered the question.  The fact is, there is too much freeloading, and it doesn't seem to be addressed. I wish this question would have been asked.

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The military industrial complex are the biggest freeloaders in society.

[Lord Halifax]

I think this is perhaps one of the key facets that needed to be addressed more clearly, especially with a candidate with his platform.  I think what the Sanders campaign miscalculated, is that there are many, many people under 30, +/(-) a few years who do work hard, make a decent living, paid their dues, pay their bills, paid their debts, are financially successful and don't want to be burdened with taking care of society dead-weight (their fault or not).  The more the man kept talking about "free, free, free", the more he seemed to actually aggravate those young Americans who have made something of themselves, and don't want to deal with squatters, and those that are lazy.  Sure, many do work hard and still fail, but I believe he created quite a bit of anger the more he yapped about "free, free, free".  Warren's campaign essentially ended the minute she sounded like him.

You could make the argument that given how polarizing his platform is, that his team knew that his demographic draw was going to be narrow, and that his chance was to draw out a huge amount of young voters to offset everyone else.  It's very possible.

Why do you think the freeloading deal though was never addressed or asked to him more directly or consistently? Is it politically incorrect, the Democrats don't want to go near that to avoid losing a slew of voters, or something else? We all know Romney's "47% comment" effectively ended his 2012 challenge to Obama.

I actually wonder how he would have answered the question.  The fact is, there is too much freeloading, and it doesn't seem to be addressed. I wish this question would have been asked.

The whole idea of "freeloading" is a right wing way of looking at things and in opposition to a Social Democratic concept of solidarity (the broadest shoulders should carry the heaviest load etc.). The young people you're talking about aren't likely to be Democrats in the first place. If you've got a "I've got mine, screw the rest" mindset you're likely to be a Republican or Libertarian. 

I don't think Warren's campaign failed because she sounded too much like Sanders, but because she tried to be a "unity candidate" with appeal to both wings rather than accept there were too lanes in the primary and attempt to become the standard bearer of the left and reduce Sanders to a fringe candidate. She then lost leftist support to Sanders and a big part of her new moderate support left to Buttigieg anyway once she wasn't the frontrunner anymore.

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You'd think all that free stuff would motivate people to vote for him. But it doesn't work that way looks like.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I think he'd just flip it to "corporations have been freeloading on the American people for decades."

The Democratic candidates won't question this because they don't want to turn off a good chunk of voters, but it looks like a majority of Democrats feel like Sanders' policies would benefit freeloaders given Bernie has been rejected by the electorate so far.

[Higgins]

I think this is perhaps one of the key facets that needed to be addressed more clearly, especially with a candidate with his platform.  I think what the Sanders campaign miscalculated, is that there are many, many people under 30, +/(-) a few years who do work hard, make a decent living, paid their dues, pay their bills, paid their debts, are financially successful and don't want to be burdened with taking care of society dead-weight (their fault or not).  The more the man kept talking about "free, free, free", the more he seemed to actually aggravate those young Americans who have made something of themselves, and don't want to deal with squatters, and those that are lazy.  Sure, many do work hard and still fail, but I believe he created quite a bit of anger the more he yapped about "free, free, free".  Warren's campaign essentially ended the minute she sounded like him.

You could make the argument that given how polarizing his platform is, that his team knew that his demographic draw was going to be narrow, and that his chance was to draw out a huge amount of young voters to offset everyone else.  It's very possible.

Why do you think the freeloading deal though was never addressed or asked to him more directly or consistently? Is it politically incorrect, the Democrats don't want to go near that to avoid losing a slew of voters, or something else? We all know Romney's "47% comment" effectively ended his 2012 challenge to Obama.

I actually wonder how he would have answered the question.  The fact is, there is too much freeloading, and it doesn't seem to be addressed. I wish this question would have been asked.

The whole idea of "freeloading" is a right wing way of looking at things and in opposition to a Social Democratic concept of solidarity (the broadest shoulders should carry the heaviest load etc.). The young people you're talking about aren't likely to be Democrats in the first place. If you've got a "I've got mine, screw the rest" mindset you're likely to be a Republican or Libertarian. 

I don't think Warren's campaign failed because she sounded too much like Sanders, but because she tried to be a "unity candidate" with appeal to both wings rather than accept there were too lanes in the primary and attempt to become the standard bearer of the left and reduce Sanders to a fringe candidate. She then lost leftist support to Sanders and a big part of her new moderate support left to Buttigieg anyway once she wasn't the frontrunner anymore.

If those with the broadest shoulders should carry the heaviest load, than they should be given the lion's share of power in return for their toil.

[Zaybay]

This thread sounds much more like someone complaining about what they dont like about Sanders' platform than actually looking into the problems of his campaign.

[O3E]

I don't know if this is the correct analysis, I know other young people who supported Sanders but didn't actually vote in the primaries. The polling even shows young voters like Sanders policies. I also believe you can make a case that younger voters are likelier to support socialism in the future by looking at the policies from the past to now, domestic and foreign. These policies have negatively impacted young people the most. I just think young voters have just removed themselves from the political process altogether, otherwise, you would have seen a shift in the youth vote from Sanders to other candidates but there is a smaller share of young voters if it were the case that young people don't want to freeload, We had younger candidates this election cycle none of their campaigns built youth support.

Look, I believe Sanders campaign had a bad strategy and miscalculated that the older generation would turn out against him. They are the voters who are against freeloading, ironically.