Why do NCAA fans hate the NBA so much

[OSR stands with Israel]

Like NCAA fanbases dont seem to hate the NFL near the same way. As a Basketball fan , I like both for other reasons. NCAA more cause of march madness  and the win or go home stakes and NBA cause of how fun watching the offensive talent is(and overall talent as a whole), amazing playoff series,  the intensity of close games in general along with obviously me being a Blazers fanboy.

The hostility though I seem from posters like RINO Tom, Green Line, Santander and  on college basketball forums in general is shocking

How much of it has to do with the disparity between the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference with the east other than a team or two every year tends to suck compared to the West and thus depresses fanbase there as well.


 Like the criticism the NBA fanbase is terrible really doesn't apply to Western Conference teams(except Warrior fans) at all, I mean have you seen us Blazers fans or go to a Blazers games. I have friends who have gone to Big 10 schools and wnet to games they say even though that's loud, Blazers fans are even more passionate and the games itself. The no defense criticism is also the most idiotic criticism as well given that the quality of defense is higher in the NBA, its just that NBA players are too talented on offense and due to that zone defense fails to work most of the time , players will score or draw a foul on transition, and spacing, in general, is way way better.

The fact is in a college game even on transition players pass it out an execute set plays because thats the really only way they most of the time are able to score while in the NBA players in transition will score or draw a blocking foul. Another is NBA players just rarely miss a shot when given space so that in general makes zone very difficult to execute especially now when you have players like Lillard and Curry who can shoot the ball from 30 feet with ease

[DINGO Joe]

While the difference in athleticism between college football and basketball vs the pros is probably similar the way it translates to the product on the court/field just seems radically different to my eye. The NFL seems  a natural progression from the college game while the NBA seems like a whole other universe from the way the college game is played and generally I find college basketball more enjoyable to watch whereas college and pro football seem pretty interchangeable to watch.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Can't say I've either noticed or cared, but a good part of the difference is probably due to how the NFL and the NBA treat the college sports programs they get most of their talent from. The NBA only begrudgingly agreed to wait until players had at least one year they could've attended college before taking the most talented youngsters, while the NFL not only waits three years, but generally doesn't schedule games when colleges play, so it's possible to realistically support both a college team and an NFL team as a fan.

[OSR stands with Israel]

While the difference in athleticism between college football and basketball vs the pros is probably similar the way it translates to the product on the court/field just seems radically different to my eye. The NFL seems  a natural progression from the college game while the NBA seems like a whole other universe from the way the college game is played and generally I find college basketball more enjoyable to watch whereas college and pro football seem pretty interchangeable to watch.

Well the reason is the skill level differences in College vs NFL mostly affect the defensive side so due to that its hard to see the difference when it comes to the eye test.

For the NBA the skill level differences affects offensives in Huge ways:


- For example in College teams tend to play a lot of zone and it works cause College players tend not to be able to exploit the zone as much as NBA players can. Giving NBA players (outside centers really) any real space and they will make you pay most of the time especially now when you have players like Lillard and Curry who can effortlessly hit 30 point shots

- There is a huge difference in transition in the NBA vs College as in College as soon as the player gets defended a little bit it seems like he just slows down and passes it out and then they run their set plays while in the NBA most of the time you will see the offensive player exploit the fact he is on transition and take it all the way to the basket, draw a charge, quickly shoot over the defender, or draw a double team which leads to open shots .


- Close Playoff NBA Series are extremely intense in every way in a way which is unmatched my any other level of basketball. The high skill showed by players actually lead to amazing back and forths which is what makes the NBA so great

[dead0man]

The NBA has several issues that make it hard to watch:
a.the season is too long and mostly doesn't matter because....
2.there aren't enough good teams
III.the officiating is the worst in North American pro-sports

[100% pro-life no matter what]

I enjoy the NBA Playoffs, but am much more of a CBB fan than a NBA fan.  I think the NBA actually suffers from the players being too good- changing the focus and style of play drastically from the college game.  But, the bigger issue for me is that the NBA is too predictable.  Basketball games tend to have less upsets than baseball or hockey, given the same talent distribution, because games have so many "mini-games" (possessions).  Combine that with best-of-7 series in the playoffs, and you have a very predictable ending to the season.  Best-of-7 works great in high variance sports like baseball and hockey, but the NBA would be better served with something more like football, another relatively low-variance sport.  I'm not suggesting the radical change of single elimination, but something like best-of-3 or best-of-5 would improve the NBA significantly.

[Green Line]

Because the NBA is basically one step above professional wrestling.  Its a trash league.

In all seriousness, I don't like the lack of parity in the NBA.  I think its less of a team sport than a collection of 10 superstars that dominate the league.  College Basketball is wide open.  Upsets are fun.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Because the NBA is basically one step above professional wrestling.  Its a trash league.

In all seriousness, I don't like the lack of parity in the NBA.  I think its less of a team sport than a collection of 10 superstars that dominate the league.  College Basketball is wide open.  Upsets are fun.

The past two nba seasons have been pretty wide open . Yah you have some years like the warriors totally dominating but the fact is before that it wasn’t that bad .

For example the Heat were taken too 7 games in 2012 and 2013 and if it wasn’t for LeBron having a historic performance in game 6 ECF in 2012 and the Spurs choking and the Ray Allen miracle 3 , the Heat would have lost either time .


Before that the spurs were always challenged by teams like the Suns , Pistons, Mavs it was just that they made the crunch plays when it mattered and won . Even in the 90s the Bulls were challenged over and over by teams like the Knicks , and the Jazz , it’s just that Jordan was extremely clutch and always performed his best in the lost critical moments which is what allowed them to win all those years

[Fight for Trump]

The NBA has several issues that make it hard to watch:
a.the season is too long and mostly doesn't matter because....
2.there aren't enough good teams
III.the officiating is the worst in North American pro-sports

Not to mention:

- It's boring
- The fans suck
- Teams move all the time
- Crap politics
- No heritage (which is what makes college basketball even remotely interesting)

Yeah, sure I might go sit courtside at a game in Orlando for a cheap 'grammable moment, but there's zero chance I'd watch a game on TV. When I'm in a city with friends, we sometimes go to a hockey, baseball, or college football game even if we don't really care, but it had never crossed our minds to go to to an NBA game. Where are the goals? The home runs? The touchdowns? There's not even history.

[Donerail]

I don't have a particular NBA team I feel passionately about, even enough to bother to follow — I grew up in an area that doesn't have a local NBA team and currently live in a place where the local NBA team has not been anywhere close to competitive during my time here, so I don't really feel a reason to watch the NBA. I'll tune in during the playoffs, but a regular-season NBA game? Why should I care?

I think if you flip a couple variables on my life — if my parents grow up somewhere different, go to different colleges, and don't care about college basketball as a result, and if I grow up somewhere where the NBA is a big thing, then I'd pay attention. As-is, however, I don't see much of a reason to watch.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The NBA has several issues that make it hard to watch:
a.the season is too long and mostly doesn't matter because....
2.there aren't enough good teams
III.the officiating is the worst in North American pro-sports

Not to mention:

- It's boring
- The fans suck
- Teams move all the time
- Crap politics
- No heritage (which is what makes college basketball even remotely interesting)

Yeah, sure I might go sit courtside at a game in Orlando for a cheap 'grammable moment, but there's zero chance I'd watch a game on TV. When I'm in a city with friends, we sometimes go to a hockey, baseball, or college football game even if we don't really care, but it had never crossed our minds to go to to an NBA game. Where are the goals? The home runs? The touchdowns? There's not even history.

- How is it boring lol , it’s so much more fast paced than anything in college and playoff games are way more intense than anything in college. How is more fun to see teams execute set plays for 15-20 seconds play after play after play than see players take advantage of spacing, mismatches , being in transition or just have the skill level to score over the best defense period .

- The fans suck lol : Like I said maybe for the eastern conference, but out here in the west you lol couldn’t be more wrong . Fans are extremely passionate about our Blazers here in Portland and the games here are so fun . I know someone  who went to Ohio St and he said while the fans there were loud , they didn’t match Blazers fans here .


The same is true for fans of the vast majority of Western Conference teams . I can get though why if you were in the East you would think that cause yah the fan support their does suck compared to the West


- Teams do not move all the time , there has only been one relocation in the past 15 years , the Sonics moving to OKC .


- who cares about the politics


- No heritage, what about Lakers-Celtics

[Green Line]

Just like the NBA if you like it, and leave the rest of us to dislike it brotha.  Obviously nobody is going to convince you otherwise.  Its just my opinion.  I already said that there's not enough parity in the NBA.  There's no equivalent to Lebron, Durant, Curry in the MLB or NHL.  Those are team games.  The NBA is a game of superstars.  Take the best player in the MLB, Mike Trout.  He has NEVER made the playoffs because he plays for a bad team.  I'd rather see a bunch of guys come together and win something than have one dude win a championship.  Otherwise I'd just watch boxing.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Just like the NBA if you like it, and leave the rest of us to dislike it brotha.  Obviously nobody is going to convince you otherwise.  Its just my opinion.  I already said that there's not enough parity in the NBA.  There's no equivalent to Lebron, Durant, Curry in the MLB or NHL.  Those are team games.  The NBA is a game of superstars.  Take the best player in the MLB, Mike Trout.  He has NEVER made the playoffs because he plays for a bad team.  I'd rather see a bunch of guys come together and win something than have one dude win a championship.  Otherwise I'd just watch boxing.

It seems one of the reasons why I like the NBA is why you guys dislike it lol.

These criticisms though arent warranted: Defense sucks compared to College(one of the most hillariously wrong statements ever) , Fans Suck(Not for Western Confrence Teams)

[F. Joe Haydn]

Go tell someone who's been a Celtics fan for 60 years and has seen Cousy, Russell, Sam Jones, Havlicek, Cowens, Bird, McHale, Parish, Pierce, and Garnett that their sport has no heritage. Or just go read The Book of Basketball by Bill Simmons.

[Fight for Trump]

Go tell someone who's been a Celtics fan for 60 years and has seen Cousy, Russell, Sam Jones, Havlicek, Cowens, Bird, McHale, Parish, Pierce, and Garnett that their sport has no heritage. Or just go read The Book of Basketball by Bill Simmons.

You are talking about literally the one team out of 30 that had the best players. The Bruins and Red Sox have been around far longer.

Plus, it's not like anyone in basketball really respects the sport's pioneers beyond occasional lip service. When is the last time you heard a player tipped as the next Bill Russell? How many NBA fans these days even know of Hondo Havlicek or Bob Cousy? And if they do, do they even care? Every baseball fan knows Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, et al. And as for why many people like college basketball but don't care for the NBA, a lot of it is just about culture and identity. Ignoring what happens on the court, people can actually intimately identify with a college, whereas an NBA team is just a business owned by some rich dude employing oversized African-American and European millionaires.

Clearly, beep boop is free to watch whatever he wants. But he needs to understand that for some people, there is more to watching sports than making noise at an arena.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Go tell someone who's been a Celtics fan for 60 years and has seen Cousy, Russell, Sam Jones, Havlicek, Cowens, Bird, McHale, Parish, Pierce, and Garnett that their sport has no heritage. Or just go read The Book of Basketball by Bill Simmons.

You are talking about literally the one team out of 30 that had the best players. The Bruins and Red Sox have been around far longer.

Plus, it's not like anyone in basketball really respects the sport's pioneers beyond occasional lip service. When is the last time you heard a player tipped as the next Bill Russell? How many NBA fans these days even know of Hondo Havlicek or Bob Cousy? And if they do, do they even care? Every baseball fan knows Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, et al. And as for why many people like college basketball but don't care for the NBA, a lot of it is just about culture and identity. Ignoring what happens on the court, people can actually intimately identify with a college, whereas an NBA team is just a business owned by some rich dude employing oversized African-American and European millionaires.

Clearly, beep boop is free to watch whatever he wants. But he needs to understand that for some people, there is more to watching sports than making noise at an arena.

Um Bill Russell is extremely respected and is always called the best defender of all time , on most lists is on people’s top 5 , and the Finals MVP trophy is literally named after him .


Also i was just using that to compare fan support and the idea fan support in NBA sucks is laughable for Western Conference teams , the Celtics , and more .

Most of the arguments college fans use to why the game itself is better is laughable:


- They say College Basketball actually has Defense being played : well yah defenses will look good when players can’t take advantage of space , being in transition and if set plays have to be used to set up shots . In the NBA , if any team used the type of defense college teams use , they would be utterly destroyed in every possible way as if you give the vast majority of players any space they will make you pay . Also players in the nba can finish on transition as well , and have an array of skills that lets them score despite tight defense .

Also the fact that College teams having to run 15-20 second set plays after they cross half court is More fun than NBA style offenses is hillarious

[YE]

I like both leagues personally. You just seem a bit passionate about this topic (one I’ll make an effort post on here eventually) and people kind of want to mess with you.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I like both leagues personally. You just seem a bit passionate about this topic (one I’ll make an effort post on here eventually) and people kind of want to mess with you.

I like College Basketball too and watch March Madness (especially when the Ducks are in it) and during the 2016-17 season I liked College>NBA, as well as that NBA season, was just by far the worst NBA season I have ever seen and its not even close.


Its just most of the critisms most of the people use against NBA are just not true. The fan support sucking is just not true if you go to a fanbase from a Western Conference team or a team like the Celtics. Santander uses going to a magic game as an example how they suck, well yah they do suck in the Eastern Conference but out here in the Western Conference its super electrifying in every way.


The No Defense critism is the most hilarious criticism I have ever seen and is actaully wrong in every way if you actually know basketball. The thing is if you used college-style defenses against the NBA, you would have by far the worst defense in the league as the fact is trying to play that style of the zone in the NBA would get exploited so badly that your opponents might put up 120+ on you a night. Also if you watch the playoffs you will notice the NBA playoffs are far more physical than anything in College as well.


Also the college uses more fundamentals and has more teamwork totally misses the point why there is more team work in college. Its cause players are no where near skilled offensively that they have to run 15-20 second set plays almost every time they bring the ball past half court. Also, teams anyway who win the title in the NBA are the ones with the best team chemistry and are very team-oriented as well.


Even the LeBron James Heat teams were in which both LeBron and Wade played amazing together and had almost perfect chemistry and Bosh was a huge integral part of that team as well. It wasn't just the Big 3 though without players such as Mario Chalmers, Shane Battier,  Mike Miller, and Ray Allen(in the 2013 season) making so many key shots and key defense plays they wouldnt have won either.