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« on: October 04, 2019, 10:18:36 AM »

I think I'm pretty much locked in, even though I've felt ambivalent about it for months.

Where is everyone in terms of D primary support?
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2019, 10:41:42 AM »

Lean Biden for now, though I may be open to supporting Buttigieg or Yang depending on how things unfold. I would support most everyone in the GE though, except maybe Sanders and some of the fringe candidates.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2019, 10:44:53 AM »

I don't think I really like any of them...
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2019, 10:49:50 AM »

Sanders tentatively, though it will depend a lot on who is still in the race after Super Tuesday (when my state, IL, votes).
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2019, 11:22:09 AM »

Unquestionably Sanders. Warren's refusal to commit to not taking dirty money during the GE campaign, her increasingly ambiguous stance on Medicare for All, and her repudiation of Socialism in defense of "making capitalism work" put her in a far distant second to Bernie. While Warren was voting for Reagan with his trickle down economics, arming the mass murdering Contras, and deliberately ignoring the AIDS epidemic as an entire generation of gay men were threatened, Bernie was risking his neck going to gay pride/rights events, championing civil rights legislation in Burlington, and speaking out against the Reagan Administration's policies of death in Central America.

Bernie has been getting arrested and facing public backlash for his defense of marginalized communities since the 1960s. Yet people like Warren and Biden can come around to supporting it decades later as public opinion shifts in favor of it and we're supposed to applaud them as decisive leaders? Nobody would even dare challenge the for-profit health insurance industry or the likes of Bezos until Bernie paved the way for it. I'm not denying that Warren holds and will champion many genuinely progressive legislative goals; arguably, she would be the most progressive president in history. However, why settle for that when a man who has championed these causes before almost all of us here were even born is in the race as a legitimate contender?
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2019, 11:46:42 AM »

I'm definitely on Team Warren as well. The argument that she "used to be a Republican" is ineffective, in my opinion, because she's so clearly very far from that now, and not simply in a "the party left me" way. Her current differences with Sanders pale in comparison to the differences between her and a candidate like Biden.

I'm abandoned completely by everyone right now. I'm about as hopeless as a polar bear on an iceberg in the middle of the Atlantic.

Aw, poor baby.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2019, 11:51:19 AM »

I'm still Titanium McAfee voter
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2019, 12:02:12 PM »

I'm at a point where I'm tied between Pete and Liz, and if Liz wins IA and/or NH, I will pivot to being fully behind her.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2019, 12:04:16 PM »

I'm definitely on Team Warren as well. The argument that she "used to be a Republican" is ineffective, in my opinion, because she's so clearly very far from that now, and not simply in a "the party left me" way. Her current differences with Sanders pale in comparison to the differences between her and a candidate like Biden.

I'm abandoned completely by everyone right now. I'm about as hopeless as a polar bear on an iceberg in the middle of the Atlantic.

Aw, poor baby.

STFU.

Sorry to hear you're having a bad day, though I'm not sure Atlas is the best remedy.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2019, 12:15:00 PM »

Solid Biden.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 12:15:16 PM »

I've come around to wanting Warren to be POTUS.  I would be open to supporting Biden if there was a good indication he was more likely to bring down the orange MFer, but we don't really know at this point, and there's an argument that Warren is more electable, so...
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2019, 12:53:26 PM »

I've been substantially undecided between Bernie and Warren for months now (they both have their strengths and weaknesses relative to each other), but since Bernie seems to be faltering and Warren is our best shot at avoiding the utter catastrophe of a Biden nomination, I'm pretty much sold on her, yeah.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2019, 01:05:37 PM »

Warren and Sanders are instantly disqualifying because of their positions on trade. Trump's trade policy is about to send the world into a recession and global trade facilitates vital economic, political, and social integration that keeps our world safe and prosperous. Any attempt to enact protectionist policies will make the world decisively less rich and less secure.

For the better of the world, we can only hope Sanders resigns to a nursing home where he belongs and Warren locks herself back up in a Boston office somewhere.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 01:34:19 PM »

I love McAfee and if I had two votes I'd vote for him.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 01:40:13 PM »

Warren. She would certainly be a lot more useful than a useless Biden presidency that would foolishly try to appease "moderate" Republicans (who would just obstruct everything no matter how much genuine effort was made to compromise with them), and she's got a better chance of actually doing the things that she says she wants to do than someone like Bernie (who for some inexplicable reason thinks it's possible to do the things he wants while leaving the filibuster intact).

Add to that the fact that the "Biden is much more electable than Warren" narrative is crumbling by the day, and that makes me that much more sure of how she's the one to take on this fight.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2019, 02:25:31 PM »

Waffling between Warren and Bernie. Ask me when it's closer to the NH primary - if Bernie is competitive I'm voting for him. If not, Warren has my vote.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2019, 02:35:12 PM »

I'm abandoned completely by everyone right now. I'm about as hopeless as a polar bear on an iceberg in the middle of the Atlantic.
I would suggest channeling your disaffection into an honest introspection about your life and the world around you. There are people fighting the good fight out there. Don’t allow hopelessness to define your perspective
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2019, 02:36:02 PM »

Warren. It's about time we had the first cougar President.
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2019, 03:04:25 PM »

I'm most comfortable with the candidates whose surnames begin with B, except for the octogenarians.

So all of them? Huh
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