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« on: August 18, 2018, 08:17:20 AM »

I know I posted a similar post before, but I'd really like to hear some Atlas ideas!

Election Day arrives and of the 105,425,985 Presidential Election voters, 99.981% vote exactly as IRL. The only differences are

10,000 real-life Bush voters in FL (but none in Palm Beach County) vote Gore instead;
3,000 real-life Gore voters in IA vote Bush instead;
3,500 real-life Gore voters in OR vote Bush instead; and
3,500 real-life Gore voters in WI vote Bush instead.

These vote switchers are fairly evenly spread across the state, giving rise to similar county trends as IRL. Here is the map:



Bush/Cheney 47.87% / 264 EV --> 271 EV
Gore/Lieberman 48.38% / 267 EV

Gore carried FL by 19,463 votes, while Bush carried IA by 1,856 and WI by 1,292. In OR, however, Bush led by only 235, and OR was not yet called as of early Wednesday morning.

(IRL, OR was finally called on the morning of Friday, Nov. 10. In this ATL, however, a thorough recount, if/when it were to take place, would show that, indeed, 235 more Oregonians voted for Bush than Gore).

In short, in this ATL Bush won.. Bush won 271 EVs to Gore's 267, just as IRL.

In Palm Beach County, Florida, hundreds of voters were confused by the butterfly ballots, just as IRL. A statistically improbably high number of votes in Palm Beach were cast for Buchanan, rather than Gore, the exact same number as IRL. (No one notices because Gore overperformed in Palm Beach, just as IRL). FL is first called for Gore before the polls closed in the heavily Republican Panhandle, just as IRL. Republican Secretary of State Katherine Harris would have overseen any recount, just as IRL.

But nobody cares. Instead, all eyes are focused on Oregon. Rather than on a state whose governor is the GOP nominee's brother, attention is focused on a state with a liberal governor, John Kitzhaber (D). It is pointed out more than once that Nader and his "Pacific Party" as it is known in OR, received 5.04% of the OR vote, the highest percentage of any state.

Well... what happens next?

Do the networks retract their call of FL for Gore as IRL?

Do the butterfly ballots as well as other FL issues (felons, the timing of the initial call) go unnoticed, perhaps affecting elections in 2004 and beyond? Do the FL election reforms that took place IRL never take place?

Do the conservative to right-wing voters of eastern OR receive more than usual attention? (Lake County, OR voted 76% - 19% for Bush, after voting 61% - 26% for Dole four years earlier).

And finally, the obligatory question: In factory and hospital cafeterias, teachers lounges, hair and nail salons, bars and taverns across the country... what is the buzz?

Anything else? Do left-wing parties come under even harsher criticism than IRL? Do other parties still get 11% of the OR vote in 2016 as IRL? Go!
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2018, 11:14:13 AM »

"Do the networks retract their call of FL for Gore as IRL?"

I'm not entirely sure on this, but I don't think they would.

"Do the butterfly ballots as well as other FL issues (felons, the timing of the initial call) go unnoticed, perhaps affecting elections in 2004 and beyond? Do the FL election reforms that took place IRL never take place?"

Because Gore won FL, I think they would go unnoticed, and the reforms wouldn't happen.

"Do the conservative to right-wing voters of eastern OR receive more than usual attention? (Lake County, OR voted 76% - 19% for Bush, after voting 61% - 26% for Dole four years earlier)."

Because they were instrumental in Bush's win, yes.

"In factory and hospital cafeterias, teachers lounges, hair and nail salons, bars and taverns across the country... what is the buzz?"

As I said in another thread, I was only 5 (turning 6) for the vast majority of 2000, so my perspective is rather skewed. I'd imagine some disgruntled Gore supporters would be peeved at the Green Party, albeit to a greater degree as in the OTL. Bush supporters would be relieved, same as in the OTL. People wouldn't draw their anger towards Jeb for giving his brother the election. Vote errors due to butterfly ballots would continue to occur.

The Democratic strategy in 2004 will be to win back Oregon, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire while keeping FL. Fewer people would vote Green in comparison to 2000 (same as in real life), so this wouldn't be too hard. Keeping FL with Bush's incumbency advantage could be tough though, and there is the possibility for butterfly ballots to throw the 2004 election to Bush.


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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2018, 10:00:03 PM »

"Do the networks retract their call of FL for Gore as IRL?"

I'm not entirely sure on this, but I don't think they would.

"Do the butterfly ballots as well as other FL issues (felons, the timing of the initial call) go unnoticed, perhaps affecting elections in 2004 and beyond? Do the FL election reforms that took place IRL never take place?"

Because Gore won FL, I think they would go unnoticed, and the reforms wouldn't happen.

"Do the conservative to right-wing voters of eastern OR receive more than usual attention? (Lake County, OR voted 76% - 19% for Bush, after voting 61% - 26% for Dole four years earlier)."

Because they were instrumental in Bush's win, yes.

"In factory and hospital cafeterias, teachers lounges, hair and nail salons, bars and taverns across the country... what is the buzz?"

As I said in another thread, I was only 5 (turning 6) for the vast majority of 2000, so my perspective is rather skewed. I'd imagine some disgruntled Gore supporters would be peeved at the Green Party, albeit to a greater degree as in the OTL. Bush supporters would be relieved, same as in the OTL. People wouldn't draw their anger towards Jeb for giving his brother the election. Vote errors due to butterfly ballots would continue to occur.

The Democratic strategy in 2004 will be to win back Oregon, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire while keeping FL. Fewer people would vote Green in comparison to 2000 (same as in real life), so this wouldn't be too hard. Keeping FL with Bush's incumbency advantage could be tough though, and there is the possibility for butterfly ballots to throw the 2004 election to Bush.
Excellent analysis, and thank you.

I think it's safe to say no one would be talking about hanging chads in FL.

Also, the song "Blame Florida" never would have been composed: http://www.amiright.com/parody/90s/treyparkermattstone0.shtml

What I'm wondering, of course, is what if any irregularities in Oregon would we be talking about-- perhaps ones which went unnoticed IRL?
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2019, 06:12:29 PM »

One thought I have is that the history of Oregon as a "white homeland", where the KKK was strong, would be brought up. (It was Oregon that tried to ban Catholic schools, until the Supreme Count decided otherwise in a 9-0 decision in 1922).

Of course, Gov. Kitzhaber would strongly denounce such talk, stating that the results were a statistical aberration, and that areas such as Lane (Eugene) and Multnomah (Portland) Counties are not racist.

Meanwhile no one cares about FL. It would be a different aftermath, for sure!

And, as a trivial aside: Bush's 32 states would be the most won by any candidate who lost the PV.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2019, 06:20:05 PM »

Nader would be hated more than OTL by Democrats
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