Ben Shapiro DESTROYED by Brillo Pad

[TML]

Using Mr. Shapiro's standard, most conservative parties in Europe and other parts of the Anglosphere (e.g. Canada, Australia, NZ) would have to be regarded as leftist.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Is that what Shapiro’s voice sounds like?!   No wonder he’s having to compensate so much.

He's also like 5'4" or something.

And scrawnier than me to boot.

[ViaActiva]

Neil is personally very economically right-wing, though applies the same brutal logic and scrutiny to all of his interviewees, as demonstrated here.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Just watched the interview. For someone who claims to hate Trump, they're awfully similar.

[Badger]

Congratulations, you played yourself Shapiro.

Once again, Republicans assume their far right authoratarianism is just simply "right wing" and anything less conssrvative or less fascist is "left wing". They get away with this in America, and it looks like Shapiro had the hubris to assume he could get away with this in Europe.

Anybody right of the center is considered a Nazi, Fascist, and Hitler by the left.

Somebody was triggered.....

[The Mikado]

Ben Shapiro was basically destroyed by...Ben Shapiro. Andrew Neil barely does anything beyond asking him to clarify or elaborate.

[T'Chenka]

Ben Shapiro was basically destroyed by...Ben Shapiro. Andrew Neil barely does anything beyond asking him to clarify or elaborate.

Shapiro is used to his safe space where conservatives don't ask other conservatives hard questions in America. Once he realized that he was being denied his priviledge, he got triggered, took it personally, and then got even more angry when he couldn't answer the questions with quality answers and looked stupid.

[GP270watch]

This dude is massively overrated. All he does is use debate tactics to troll people, waste their energies, and enrich himself. He's not well informed, he is offering no solutions to any of America's real problems like income inequality, corporate greed, Healthcare, racism, or sexism. He's a perpetual outrage machine who milks a gullible base. A base who wants to learn nothing new, takes comfort in that whatever they know or already believe is right, and that instead of actually winning support for their ideas it's much easier to throw mud on everybody, so everybody is dirty.

[Crumpets]

Ben Shapiro was basically destroyed by...Ben Shapiro. Andrew Neil barely does anything beyond asking him to clarify or elaborate.

Shapiro is used to his safe space where conservatives don't ask other conservatives hard questions in America. Once he realized that he was being denied his priviledge, he got triggered, took it personally, and then got even more angry when he couldn't answer the questions with quality answers and looked stupid.

I disagree slightly. I don't think he thought Neil would lob him softballs and was caught offguard when he actually had to answer real questions. I think Ben, like a lot of Poli Sci 101 students, thinks that Europe=left and European media=hysterical far-left triggered snowflakes. He cockily assumed that Neil would be just as easy a target as any of the college feminists he DESTROYS in his videos.

[bore]

Ben Shapiro was basically destroyed by...Ben Shapiro. Andrew Neil barely does anything beyond asking him to clarify or elaborate.

Yeah, the reason that Neil is a decent interviewer, unlike most of the third rate paxman impersonators in the british media, is he understands that for the most part an interviewer can't destroy a politician, only the politician can, so you need to give them enough room to undermine themselves.

[Progressive Pessimist]

This dude is massively overrated. All he does is use debate tactics to troll people, waste their energies, and enrich himself. He's not well informed, he is offering no solutions to any of America's real problems like income inequality, corporate greed, Healthcare, racism, or sexism. He's a perpetual outrage machine who milks a gullible base. A base who wants to learn nothing new, takes comfort in that whatever they know or already believe is right, and that instead of actually winning support for their ideas it's much easier to throw mud on everybody, so everybody is dirty.

That sounds like a winning formula to create your own cultish conservative following! Perhaps he learned it from the President.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Ben Shapiro is a faux-intellectual who spends more time trying to sound smart by saying whatever superficially sounds best in the moment than actually thinking about ideas or issues in any depth. He found himself in a situation where his instincts couldn't help him (for he doesn't understand the first thing about British politics) and was exposed big time.

[Person Man]

Imagine if William F Buckley was like this.

[The Free North]

American journalists are a joke by and large. The UK does a far better job of pointing out contradictions and actually pushing politicians during interviews rather than just fellating them.

Its a shame really.

[Joe Republic]

It is always entertaining to watch joint press conferences featuring any US President next to any UK Prime Minister, and seeing the president's facial reactions when the questions from the UK press start coming in.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Imagine if William F Buckley was like this.

Shapiro is just WFB with the sheen worn off.

[136or142]

Imagine if William F Buckley was like this.

Shapiro is just WFB with the sheen worn off.

William F Buckley was like that.

To Gore Vidal (after Gore Vidal called Buckley a 'crypto Nazi' after Buckley claimed that anybody who argued the U.S had no business in Vietnam was defacto supporting the killing of American soldiers)

"Now listen you queer, stop calling me a crypto Nazi or I'll sock you in the God damned face and you'll stay plastered."

And then:

"He ought to go back to his pornography (Gore Vidal wrote Myra Breckinridge) and stop making any illusions of Nazism to someone who was infantry in the last war."

Interesting wording, some might say Shapiroian since from wiki:  Buckley served stateside throughout the war at Fort Benning, Georgia; Fort Gordon, Georgia; and Fort Sam Houston, Texas.

(I'm sure Buckley could have been shipped overseas at any time and I'm sure he provided valuable service in the war effort stateside, but would anybody disagree that he wanted to leave the impression that he was involved in armed military combat against the Nazis?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8

I don't mean to side-track this thread, but the notion that there was some golden age of American conservatism, when, conservatives weren't, as expressed by Buckley, fundamentally dishonest or alleged those who disagreed with them weren't unpatriotic, well, when did this fanciful golden age ever exist?

The one thing I will give Buckley and his fellow forerunners of the modern American right wing is that at least he was consistent, so I think it's fair to refer to him as a believer in conservativism and not just a right winger, or even just a hyper-partisan.

This debate took place at the Democratic convention in Chicago in 1968, so here is Buckley arguing on behalf of the Vietnam War then being led by the Democratic President Lyndon Johnson.  The modern right wingers I think would have opposed the war when it was prosecuted by a Democratic President but supported it when prosecuted by a Republican President.  

On that basis, at least these conservatives were consistent.

[I Can Now Die Happy]

To be fair, assuming that a BBC Reporter is a sneaky malicious liberal out for libel against any conservative is a good assumption to make. The UK isn't even a respectable country anymore anyway, what with the disgustingly pathetic turn they've taken in the past few decades and the past few years in particular.

[T'Chenka]

To be fair, assuming that a BBC Reporter is a sneaky malicious liberal out for libel against any conservative is a good assumption to make. The UK isn't even a respectable country anymore anyway, what with the disgustingly pathetic turn they've taken in the past few decades and the past few years in particular.

You're trolling... right?

The interviewer is very well-known, very well-established conservative in the UK. Take off the tinfoil hat.

[Person Man]

To be fair, assuming that a BBC Reporter is a sneaky malicious liberal out for libel against any conservative is a good assumption to make. The UK isn't even a respectable country anymore anyway, what with the disgustingly pathetic turn they've taken in the past few decades and the past few years in particular.

You're trolling... right?

The interviewer is very well-known, very well-established conservative in the UK. Take off the tinfoil hat.

Did you really have to ask that question?

[Person Man]

Imagine if William F Buckley was like this.

Shapiro is just WFB with the sheen worn off.

William F Buckley was like that.

To Gore Vidal (after Gore Vidal called Buckley a 'crypto Nazi' after Buckley claimed that anybody who argued the U.S had no business in Vietnam was defacto supporting the killing of American soldiers)

"Now listen you queer, stop calling me a crypto Nazi or I'll sock you in the God damned face and you'll stay plastered."

And then:

"He ought to go back to his pornography (Gore Vidal wrote Myra Breckinridge) and stop making any illusions of Nazism to someone who was infantry in the last war."

Interesting wording, some might say Shapiroian since from wiki:  Buckley served stateside throughout the war at Fort Benning, Georgia; Fort Gordon, Georgia; and Fort Sam Houston, Texas.

(I'm sure Buckley could have been shipped overseas at any time and I'm sure he provided valuable service in the war effort stateside, but would anybody disagree that he wanted to leave the impression that he was involved in armed military combat against the Nazis?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8

I don't mean to side-track this thread, but the notion that there was some golden age of American conservatism, when, conservatives weren't, as expressed by Buckley, fundamentally dishonest or alleged those who disagreed with them weren't unpatriotic, well, when did this fanciful golden age ever exist?

The one thing I will give Buckley and his fellow forerunners of the modern American right wing is that at least he was consistent, so I think it's fair to refer to him as a believer in conservativism and not just a right winger, or even just a hyper-partisan.

This debate took place at the Democratic convention in Chicago in 1968, so here is Buckley arguing on behalf of the Vietnam War then being led by the Democratic President Lyndon Johnson.  The modern right wingers I think would have opposed the war when it was prosecuted by a Democratic President but supported it when prosecuted by a Republican President.  

On that basis, at least these conservatives were consistent.

That all checks out. This entire neofeudal coalition the Republican Party is still comprised of was thought of even in the 1930s but it was only with people like Straus coming along that gave it its bedrock. That set up is that the primary interest or the very large estates. You have the clergy to keep a population under the state subservient, and you then have expansionist military to provide “opportunities” and a unifying identity for the other two. It was Reagan who was the one who instead of mothballing the federal bureaucracy like he had promised simply Making it into an extension of his clients’ domain.

[T'Chenka]

To be fair, assuming that a BBC Reporter is a sneaky malicious liberal out for libel against any conservative is a good assumption to make. The UK isn't even a respectable country anymore anyway, what with the disgustingly pathetic turn they've taken in the past few decades and the past few years in particular.

You're trolling... right?

The interviewer is very well-known, very well-established conservative in the UK. Take off the tinfoil hat.

Did you really have to ask that question?

I'm still fairly new here, and he has hundreds of posts. Some stuff I read here is mind blowing, so it's hard to be sure sometimes.