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« on: April 16, 2019, 01:33:23 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2019, 02:34:11 PM »

I dabbled in it a little bit. Never really gave up on the trinity, though. I was drawn to it by the fact that I have trouble with the entire fact that simply getting baptized or confessing the belief that the Lord Jesus Christ died for your salvation is sufficient or necessary to save one's soul. Especially when there are still people who don't even know that the dude exists on this planet and whose to say who else might exist. They may know Him by another identity or they may not.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2019, 02:42:33 PM »

I dabbled in it a little bit. Never really gave up on the trinity, though. I was drawn to it by the fact that I have trouble with the entire fact that simply getting baptized or confessing the belief that the Lord Jesus Christ died for your salvation is sufficient or necessary to save one's soul. Especially when there are still people who don't even know that the dude exists on this planet and whose to say who else might exist. They may know Him by another identity or they may not.
UU's are multi faith we have buddhists Muslims and Jews at my church
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2019, 02:56:14 PM »

No. I subscribe to a limited number of universalist beliefs, as a Methodist, but I am a Christian. I belief salvation is possible for all - before or after death, I know not. It is not guaranteed for all. In that, I consider myself strongly anti-Calvinism. I am a Christian, an Arminian, a Methodist, and a Trinitarian.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2019, 09:24:22 PM »

I was a UU for several years but the church I joined went from being spiritual to being political.  There wasn't a single straw that caused me to leave, and I wish them well in what they are trying to do now, but politics isn't why I go to church.  I'm now a member of an ELCA church (I'll be the lay reader for Psalm 22 for the stripping of the altar at the Maundy Thursday service, and let's just say that I do that particular text dramatically.) but I still consider myself to be a Christian Daoist Universalist at heart.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2019, 09:54:32 PM »
« Edited: April 16, 2019, 10:00:40 PM by Prolocutor Bagel23 »

I dabbled in it a little bit. Never really gave up on the trinity, though. I was drawn to it by the fact that I have trouble with the entire fact that simply getting baptized or confessing the belief that the Lord Jesus Christ died for your salvation is sufficient or necessary to save one's soul. Especially when there are still people who don't even know that the dude exists on this planet and whose to say who else might exist. They may know Him by another identity or they may not.
UU's are multi faith we have buddhists Muslims and Jews at my church

Exactly, I went to one for a bit with my dad, we still maintained Islam as our religion, the pastor was Jewish, the assistant was Christian, and some of the singer people were Buddhists, really great fusion. Then again, I would be considered a kafir by many people, much like how the Ahmadiyyas are viewed by many morons, but whatever, I am who I am. Overall it is pretty complicated, but religion-wise first I associate myself first and foremost with Islam, then Sunni, then Sufi, then UU. I also pick and choose what I like from Christianity. Hence I would consider myself UU as well, but you can decide for yourself.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2019, 08:30:54 PM »

I dabbled in it a little bit. Never really gave up on the trinity, though. I was drawn to it by the fact that I have trouble with the entire fact that simply getting baptized or confessing the belief that the Lord Jesus Christ died for your salvation is sufficient or necessary to save one's soul. Especially when there are still people who don't even know that the dude exists on this planet and whose to say who else might exist. They may know Him by another identity or they may not.

Romans 1:20 - “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

There are people on Earth who live and die never hearing the Gospel, yet Christ died for them.  This verse indicates that by his creation, persons who never heard the Gospel would, somehow, know God at a level that brings Salvation.

How that looks, how that works, I don't know.  I view this as a mystery of Scripture.  I do believe that as Christ died for all, God the Father gives all the opportunity for Salvation.  But I do view this as a Scriptural mystery that a person could never hear the Gospel, yet know by God's creation that Christ is Lord.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2019, 08:46:04 PM »

I dabbled in it a little bit. Never really gave up on the trinity, though. I was drawn to it by the fact that I have trouble with the entire fact that simply getting baptized or confessing the belief that the Lord Jesus Christ died for your salvation is sufficient or necessary to save one's soul. Especially when there are still people who don't even know that the dude exists on this planet and whose to say who else might exist. They may know Him by another identity or they may not.

Romans 1:20 - “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

There are people on Earth who live and die never hearing the Gospel, yet Christ died for them.  This verse indicates that by his creation, persons who never heard the Gospel would, somehow, know God at a level that brings Salvation.

How that looks, how that works, I don't know.  I view this as a mystery of Scripture.  I do believe that as Christ died for all, God the Father gives all the opportunity for Salvation.  But I do view this as a Scriptural mystery that a person could never hear the Gospel, yet know by God's creation that Christ is Lord.
More good news then. I can totally buy all that you said.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2019, 09:18:32 PM »

I dabbled in it a little bit. Never really gave up on the trinity, though. I was drawn to it by the fact that I have trouble with the entire fact that simply getting baptized or confessing the belief that the Lord Jesus Christ died for your salvation is sufficient or necessary to save one's soul. Especially when there are still people who don't even know that the dude exists on this planet and whose to say who else might exist. They may know Him by another identity or they may not.

Romans 1:20 - “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

There are people on Earth who live and die never hearing the Gospel, yet Christ died for them.  This verse indicates that by his creation, persons who never heard the Gospel would, somehow, know God at a level that brings Salvation.

How that looks, how that works, I don't know.  I view this as a mystery of Scripture.  I do believe that as Christ died for all, God the Father gives all the opportunity for Salvation.  But I do view this as a Scriptural mystery that a person could never hear the Gospel, yet know by God's creation that Christ is Lord.
More good news then. I can totally buy all that you said.

I will say that this is not a Plan B for Salvation in my book, but it is an explanation as to how God's mercies work toward those who may never hear the Gospel preached by a person in their lifetime.  I don't think people can consciously try to do this, or set out to come by this as an alternative to Believing in and Confessing Jesus Christ as Lord.  In other words, don't try this at home.  That Scripture is truly a mystery.  But God loves primitive peoples in remote societies who are isolated from outside contact as much as He loves people in advanced societies. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2019, 10:18:06 AM »

I dabbled in it a little bit. Never really gave up on the trinity, though. I was drawn to it by the fact that I have trouble with the entire fact that simply getting baptized or confessing the belief that the Lord Jesus Christ died for your salvation is sufficient or necessary to save one's soul. Especially when there are still people who don't even know that the dude exists on this planet and whose to say who else might exist. They may know Him by another identity or they may not.

Romans 1:20 - “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

There are people on Earth who live and die never hearing the Gospel, yet Christ died for them.  This verse indicates that by his creation, persons who never heard the Gospel would, somehow, know God at a level that brings Salvation.

How that looks, how that works, I don't know.  I view this as a mystery of Scripture.  I do believe that as Christ died for all, God the Father gives all the opportunity for Salvation.  But I do view this as a Scriptural mystery that a person could never hear the Gospel, yet know by God's creation that Christ is Lord.
More good news then. I can totally buy all that you said.

I will say that this is not a Plan B for Salvation in my book, but it is an explanation as to how God's mercies work toward those who may never hear the Gospel preached by a person in their lifetime.  I don't think people can consciously try to do this, or set out to come by this as an alternative to Believing in and Confessing Jesus Christ as Lord.  In other words, don't try this at home.  That Scripture is truly a mystery.  But God loves primitive peoples in remote societies who are isolated from outside contact as much as He loves people in advanced societies. 

I imagine when combined with other mysteries of nature and scripture, its an even bigger mystery. There are perhaps other exceptions of whether one has heard the true gospel or if one actually believes the true gospel. What does Jehovah/Allah mean to people? What does Jesus mean to people?
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