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« on: February 05, 2019, 02:16:29 AM »

US sees limitations on reuniting migrant families
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There's an upside though. Public confessions like this one should considerably streamline the future trials of Trump and his subordinates for genocide.

8 U.S. Code § 1091. Genocide

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2019, 02:47:04 AM »

So the government is making no effort to return children with "sponsors" to their parents, ie the government is letting illegal immigrant children remain with their immigrant relatives in the United States rather than deporting them back to Central America along with their parents.

Much like the story from last year about ICE "losing children", this is actually a story about the government being lax on enforcing immigration law, this story should upset no one except Trump supporters. The government is doing exactly what liberals/pro-illegal immigration people want it to do, but liberals/pro-immigration people are crying genocide anyway because they are dumb, disingenuous, or both.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2019, 12:07:00 PM »

You already caused "grave welfare" issues when you ripped these kids from their parents in the first place. Yes, moving them again will be tough, but the sooner you do it, the better. These kids have loving families who miss them. If this is truly about America first, get these kids back home and hook up these sponsor families with the foster system, because there already weren't enough foster parents, and the opioid epidemic has only made that worse.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2019, 12:53:48 PM »

Legalized trafficking.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2019, 12:56:48 PM »

So what's the recommend policy from his critics?

Are they saying the parents should be allowed to come to the United States, protected from deportation, so that everyone in the world will know that if you bring your children with you, it will allow you to circumvent the immigration process?

Or should the kids be sent back?
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2019, 01:01:07 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2019, 01:07:01 PM by Koharu »


Ding ding ding. These parents didn't want their children taken from them. It's not their fault that those taking the children didn't do due diligence in getting contact information. It is now on the US government, who kidnapped these children in the first place, to return them to their families, whatever the cost.

Here's the ACLU's statement on the issue.

There are still children whose parents have not been located, but the search must continue. The focus of American foster care is always at doing what is best, with reuniting the family being the goal unless it is absolutely unsafe for the children. These children are not even American citizens and thus must be returned to their families.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2019, 05:54:31 PM »

There is something seriously wrong with this.
Am I the only one shocked or what?
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2019, 06:29:56 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2019, 06:41:39 PM by Ghost of Ruin »

So what's the recommend policy from his critics?

Are they saying the parents should be allowed to come to the United States, protected from deportation, so that everyone in the world will know that if you bring your children with you, it will allow you to circumvent the immigration process?

Or should the kids be sent back?

Let's start with not kidnapping children and locking them in cages to die, whatever that takes.

Then, once we've made a little progress towards acting like decent, civilized human beings, we can take some of the tens of billions of dollars the GOP assures me it is committed to spending on fixing immigration issues at the border and really help these people in both the short and long term, whether that involves them eventually finding safe homes here or elsewhere.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2019, 06:31:56 PM »

You already caused "grave welfare" issues when you ripped these kids from their parents in the first place. Yes, moving them again will be tough, but the sooner you do it, the better. These kids have loving families who miss them. If this is truly about America first, get these kids back home and hook up these sponsor families with the foster system, because there already weren't enough foster parents, and the opioid epidemic has only made that worse.

The sponsors are not random volunteers. They are almost always relatives living in the United States. If the parents really want their children back, they could easily get them back by just telling their brothers/cousins to return them. They don't want them back though, they want them to remain in the USA as anchors.
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