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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2018, 06:28:15 PM »

Ugh, I’m sorry for you OH Dems. At least Sherrod Brown is still a US Senator. And apparently, Democrats picked up two seats on the state Supreme Court. That’s something at least.

What’s the prognosis for keeping the Medicaid expansion now? I’m also guessing Ohio goes right-to-work now too?

Right to work won’t happen here

Speaker Smith is already looking at making constitutional referenda harder to get on the ballot. Allegedly as a response to the failed Issue 1, but Right to Work, Stand Your Ground, and a heartbeat bill are all on the docket for the Ohio General Assembly during Lame Duck.

What would that entail?
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2018, 08:16:37 PM »

Ugh, I’m sorry for you OH Dems. At least Sherrod Brown is still a US Senator. And apparently, Democrats picked up two seats on the state Supreme Court. That’s something at least.

What’s the prognosis for keeping the Medicaid expansion now? I’m also guessing Ohio goes right-to-work now too?

Right to work won’t happen here

Speaker Smith is already looking at making constitutional referenda harder to get on the ballot. Allegedly as a response to the failed Issue 1, but Right to Work, Stand Your Ground, and a heartbeat bill are all on the docket for the Ohio General Assembly during Lame Duck.

I mean, it’s his funeral Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2018, 08:23:08 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2018, 11:59:02 AM by Virginiá »

Speaker Smith is already looking at making constitutional referenda harder to get on the ballot. Allegedly as a response to the failed Issue 1, but Right to Work, Stand Your Ground, and a heartbeat bill are all on the docket for the Ohio General Assembly during Lame Duck.

What would that entail?

I can't say what is on his mind or relevant to Ohio's system, but generally when they try to make referenda harder, they do:

1. Ban/limit out-of-state financing
2. Reduce the time allowed to collect signatures
3. Restrictions on petition gatherers (compensation, where the canvassers must live, certification, etc)
4. Mandate a certain % of signatures come from each county
5. Increase the % of the vote the initiative/amendment must get to pass, possibly even mandate a certain % in each county

^ Some of those may require amending the state constitution, which requires voter approval.
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2018, 11:46:22 AM »

Speaker Smith is already looking at making constitutional referenda harder to get on the ballot. Allegedly as a response to the failed Issue 1, but Right to Work, Stand Your Ground, and a heartbeat bill are all on the docket for the Ohio General Assembly during Lame Duck.

What would that entail?

I can't say what is on his mind or relevant to Ohio's system, but generally when they try to make referendra harder, they do:

1. Ban/limit out-of-state financing
2. Reduce the time allowed to collect signatures
3. Restrictions on petition gatherers (compensation, where the canvassers must live, certification, etc)
4. Mandate a certain % of signatures come from each county
5. Increase the % of the vote the initiative/amendment must get to pass, possibly even mandate a certain % in each county

^ Some of those may require amending the state constitution, which requires voter approval.

Right now we are details light, but some combination of these. We have 4 already, 1 and 3 seem like the most likely changes. Issue 1 was bankrolled by the Zuckerbergs, for example.
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2018, 03:24:44 PM »

At least Democrats will probably get a tossup/lean D district out of Hamilton county next redistricting.

Based on the fact that there will seem to be some redistricting restrictions in place when they redraw the maps next time, combined with the reality that the state is now clearly trending away from Democrats, hopefully Republicans will relax on the absolutely monstrous gerrymandering they've been doing. Best case scenario for a Democratic House delegation would be two safe Cleveland metro seats, one safe Columbus seat, one tossup/lean D Akron seat, one tossup/lean D Toledo seat, and one tossup/Lean D Cincinnati seat. Tim Ryan holds down the Mahoning Valley seat for awhile, but given how rapid the Democratic decline is happening there, there isn't much of a reason to try and vote sink it with Akron anymore.
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2018, 05:04:34 PM »



A candidate that was outspent 8000 to 1, couldn't even get the endorsement of state or local Dem parties, stopped campaigning months ago, and had a slew of scandals (bankruptcy, been subject to a lawsuit, and was involved in a fatal hit-and-run) was still able to pull off a victory against a state rep outside the recount margin because she was running in an Obama +10.6/Clinton +10.9 seat.

#CandidateQualityMatters though, am I right?
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2018, 05:08:18 PM »



A candidate that was outspent 8000 to 1, couldn't even get the endorsement of state or local Dem parties, stopped campaigning months ago, and had a slew of scandals (bankruptcy, been subject to a lawsuit, and was involved in a fatal hit-and-run) was still able to pull off a victory against a state rep outside the recount margin because she was running in an Obama +10.6/Clinton +10.9 seat.

#CandidateQualityMatters though, am I right?

Another part of it is this: How many voters are closely paying attention to a state legislative race? Hint: Their not exactly doing deep dives, lol.
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2018, 05:12:17 PM »



A candidate that was outspent 8000 to 1, couldn't even get the endorsement of state or local Dem parties, stopped campaigning months ago, and had a slew of scandals (bankruptcy, been subject to a lawsuit, and was involved in a fatal hit-and-run) was still able to pull off a victory against a state rep outside the recount margin because she was running in an Obama +10.6/Clinton +10.9 seat.

#CandidateQualityMatters though, am I right?

Why would Democrats ever give up on a district this Democratic?  Why didn't Democrats get her removed from the ballot and replaced with a better candidate?
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2018, 05:21:32 PM »
« Edited: November 27, 2018, 05:27:00 PM by THE BuckeyeNut »



A candidate that was outspent 8000 to 1, couldn't even get the endorsement of state or local Dem parties, stopped campaigning months ago, and had a slew of scandals (bankruptcy, been subject to a lawsuit, and was involved in a fatal hit-and-run) was still able to pull off a victory against a state rep outside the recount margin because she was running in an Obama +10.6/Clinton +10.9 seat.

#CandidateQualityMatters though, am I right?

Why would Democrats ever give up on a district this Democratic?  Why didn't Democrats get her removed from the ballot and replaced with a better candidate?

Long story, but the short answer(s).

1: Senate Democrats new they weren't going to break the supermajority and were concerned with races where the candidates wasn't so colorful. As such, they knew Tina would make the Senate Caucus -- AKA: clown car caucus -- even more of a laughingstock.

2: She couldn't be legally replaced unless she agreed to withdraw.

The thing to do now is to try to get her expelled once she's seated, as the Senate Caucus can choose whoever they want as a replacement.
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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2018, 05:37:02 PM »
« Edited: November 27, 2018, 05:40:36 PM by BBD »

Very, very glad that she won. Did a bit of background research, and came across this piece written by her, detailing her life and a lot of the issues that they ruthlessly savaged her on. Everyone should read it.

https://medium.com/@theTraumaQueen/when-the-world-gave-up-on-me-29fdf6d5bdd2?fbclid=IwAR1L2wgZk5FjSpIxn7pl4C_W2GPbkF80Y7bzM2W2apwuZh8ZDb3GBi_qkHc
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2018, 06:43:42 PM »



A candidate that was outspent 8000 to 1, couldn't even get the endorsement of state or local Dem parties, stopped campaigning months ago, and had a slew of scandals (bankruptcy, been subject to a lawsuit, and was involved in a fatal hit-and-run) was still able to pull off a victory against a state rep outside the recount margin because she was running in an Obama +10.6/Clinton +10.9 seat.

#CandidateQualityMatters though, am I right?

Why would Democrats ever give up on a district this Democratic?  Why didn't Democrats get her removed from the ballot and replaced with a better candidate?

Long story, but the short answer(s).

1: Senate Democrats new they weren't going to break the supermajority and were concerned with races where the candidates wasn't so colorful. As such, they knew Tina would make the Senate Caucus -- AKA: clown car caucus -- even more of a laughingstock.

2: She couldn't be legally replaced unless she agreed to withdraw.

The thing to do now is to try to get her expelled once she's seated, as the Senate Caucus can choose whoever they want as a replacement.

Agreed
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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2018, 06:50:57 PM »



A candidate that was outspent 8000 to 1, couldn't even get the endorsement of state or local Dem parties, stopped campaigning months ago, and had a slew of scandals (bankruptcy, been subject to a lawsuit, and was involved in a fatal hit-and-run) was still able to pull off a victory against a state rep outside the recount margin because she was running in an Obama +10.6/Clinton +10.9 seat.

#CandidateQualityMatters though, am I right?

Why would Democrats ever give up on a district this Democratic?  Why didn't Democrats get her removed from the ballot and replaced with a better candidate?

Long story, but the short answer(s).

1: Senate Democrats new they weren't going to break the supermajority and were concerned with races where the candidates wasn't so colorful. As such, they knew Tina would make the Senate Caucus -- AKA: clown car caucus -- even more of a laughingstock.

2: She couldn't be legally replaced unless she agreed to withdraw.

The thing to do now is to try to get her expelled once she's seated, as the Senate Caucus can choose whoever they want as a replacement.

Well they aren't gonna do that. They tweeted a congratulations to her.
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« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2018, 07:24:07 AM »



A candidate that was outspent 8000 to 1, couldn't even get the endorsement of state or local Dem parties, stopped campaigning months ago, and had a slew of scandals (bankruptcy, been subject to a lawsuit, and was involved in a fatal hit-and-run) was still able to pull off a victory against a state rep outside the recount margin because she was running in an Obama +10.6/Clinton +10.9 seat.

#CandidateQualityMatters though, am I right?

Why would Democrats ever give up on a district this Democratic?  Why didn't Democrats get her removed from the ballot and replaced with a better candidate?

Long story, but the short answer(s).

1: Senate Democrats new they weren't going to break the supermajority and were concerned with races where the candidates wasn't so colorful. As such, they knew Tina would make the Senate Caucus -- AKA: clown car caucus -- even more of a laughingstock.

2: She couldn't be legally replaced unless she agreed to withdraw.

The thing to do now is to try to get her expelled once she's seated, as the Senate Caucus can choose whoever they want as a replacement.

Well they aren't gonna do that. They tweeted a congratulations to her.

It’s possible. The caucus is happy to remain net neutral in membership, but no one wants Maharath.
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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2018, 10:15:55 AM »

One of the incumbent Portage County Commissioners who just won re-elect is planning to resign. Outgoing State Representative and former Secretary of State candidate Kathleen Clyde is likey to be appointed.
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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2018, 09:47:31 PM »

Former Congressional candidate Rick Neal (D-OH-15) is one if 15 finalists for two vacancies on Columbus City Council
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