WA legislator calls for Christian terrorism and White Sharia

[mvd10]

The disguise the GOP wears over their modern American Nazism gets more threadbare every day.

The Nazis carried well-educated and affluent German suburbs tho. Guess which areas are trending D right now? More proof that the Democrats are the real racists and Nazis.

Which Dems? The African-Americans? the homosexuals? the latinx community? the Jews? If you look at the Dems in Congress they aren't just straight white men any more.

But, yes, the affluent white suburbs absolutely have a tendency to support politicians with dangerous white nationalist views just as downscale voters do. In the 1970s and 1980s, for example, many working class white folks were allied with African-Americans and white liberals in opposing Reagan and his dangerous policies that affected minority communities--most dramatically--all of the gay men and people of color who died in the AIDs crisis. Reagan's support base was very much the middle class and affluent suburbs--places that now strongly support Democrats.

I was trolling lol. I'd hardly call Reagan as dangerous as Trump, but I guess that's a matter of preference. And the affluent suburbs that were strongly pro-Reagan generally still are rather Republican (but yeah, they're way more supportive of the Democrats than they were in the 1980s, that's obviously true.).

[pbrower2a]

Sounds like a lot of the born again evangelical christiandom wants, at least in private.

Usually the evangelical Christians downplay racism. But you are right about sexism, homophobia, and  biblical literalism (including young-earth creationism). 

[RI]

https://www.spokesman.com/documents/2018/oct/25/biblical-basis-war/

The actual document makes some sense from a Christian perspective within the context of a total war. If you're not trying to apply it to modern politics, I don't see a ton of issue with it. I reads like LARPing to me (which is popular in the NW).

Hasn't that area (eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana) become a focus for white nationalist groups in recent years?

Not just recent years. For quite a while.

Are you telling me you wouldn't be the slightest bit concerned if a Muslim elected official were circulating the Islamic equivalent of this?

I mean, the Quran covers a lot of the same material, concerning the proper method of conducting Islamic warfare. In principle, I have nothing against distributing something like this, the relevant portions of the Quran, or The Prince, or whatever. If someone starts saying that we need to make this happen, then I'd get concerned.

You very much ducked the answer. To the extent you sort of answered not really, I call BS. You'd be rounding up your Opus Dei Brothers to form a posse as we speak.

Believe what you'd like, but I am not nor have I ever been particularly anti-Islam. I'm pretty ecumenical, all things considered. I find the right's portrayal of Islam overly general and not very charitable. I hold to the Catechism's view on Muslims:

"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." (some conservative Catholics really hate this paragraph of the Catechism, I'll point out)

Shea is an odd duck, for sure, but not very representative of Eastern Washington. To begin with, the area is not overly religious (although it is more religious than Western Washington) and certainly not a hotbed of dominionism. Yes, there is a white nationalist presence in Northern Idaho which creeps into Spokane, but it is a small minority which I've never come into contact with. The closest would be when I attended a Christian concert at a megachurch in Post Falls, Idaho and a few big-bearded guys walked out when the singer started talking about the plight of refugees. Perhaps KingSweden has encountered it in Spokane, but I've never really seen it there.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

https://www.spokesman.com/documents/2018/oct/25/biblical-basis-war/

The actual document makes some sense from a Christian perspective within the context of a total war. If you're not trying to apply it to modern politics, I don't see a ton of issue with it. I reads like LARPing to me (which is popular in the NW).

Hasn't that area (eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana) become a focus for white nationalist groups in recent years?

Not just recent years. For quite a while.

Are you telling me you wouldn't be the slightest bit concerned if a Muslim elected official were circulating the Islamic equivalent of this?

I mean, the Quran covers a lot of the same material, concerning the proper method of conducting Islamic warfare. In principle, I have nothing against distributing something like this, the relevant portions of the Quran, or The Prince, or whatever. If someone starts saying that we need to make this happen, then I'd get concerned.

You very much ducked the answer. To the extent you sort of answered not really, I call BS. You'd be rounding up your Opus Dei Brothers to form a posse as we speak.

I'm sure a remark of a similar sort against any non-Christian religious member would constitute some sort of soft bigotry.

[KingSweden]

https://www.spokesman.com/documents/2018/oct/25/biblical-basis-war/

The actual document makes some sense from a Christian perspective within the context of a total war. If you're not trying to apply it to modern politics, I don't see a ton of issue with it. I reads like LARPing to me (which is popular in the NW).

Hasn't that area (eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana) become a focus for white nationalist groups in recent years?

Not just recent years. For quite a while.

Are you telling me you wouldn't be the slightest bit concerned if a Muslim elected official were circulating the Islamic equivalent of this?

I mean, the Quran covers a lot of the same material, concerning the proper method of conducting Islamic warfare. In principle, I have nothing against distributing something like this, the relevant portions of the Quran, or The Prince, or whatever. If someone starts saying that we need to make this happen, then I'd get concerned.

You very much ducked the answer. To the extent you sort of answered not really, I call BS. You'd be rounding up your Opus Dei Brothers to form a posse as we speak.

Believe what you'd like, but I am not nor have I ever been particularly anti-Islam. I'm pretty ecumenical, all things considered. I find the right's portrayal of Islam overly general and not very charitable. I hold to the Catechism's view on Muslims:

"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." (some conservative Catholics really hate this paragraph of the Catechism, I'll point out)

Shea is an odd duck, for sure, but not very representative of Eastern Washington. To begin with, the area is not overly religious (although it is more religious than Western Washington) and certainly not a hotbed of dominionism. Yes, there is a white nationalist presence in Northern Idaho which creeps into Spokane, but it is a small minority which I've never come into contact with. The closest would be when I attended a Christian concert at a megachurch in Post Falls, Idaho and a few big-bearded guys walked out when the singer started talking about the plight of refugees. Perhaps KingSweden has encountered it in Spokane, but I've never really seen it there.

No longer live in Spokane but while I met some odd ducks from the hinterlands (lot of gold/silver enthusiasts) none of them were white nationalists or militia types. Indeed in CDA area most people younmet were realllllly embarrassed about the old Hayden Lake/Ruby Ridge connotations and actively want to improve their city’s reputation

[Progressive Pessimist]

He sounds unhinged.

He sounds like an average Republican.

[Lourdes]

He sounds unhinged.

He sounds like an average Republican.

True.

[pbrower2a]

https://www.spokesman.com/documents/2018/oct/25/biblical-basis-war/

The actual document makes some sense from a Christian perspective within the context of a total war. If you're not trying to apply it to modern politics, I don't see a ton of issue with it. I reads like LARPing to me (which is popular in the NW).

Hasn't that area (eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana) become a focus for white nationalist groups in recent years?

Not just recent years. For quite a while.

Are you telling me you wouldn't be the slightest bit concerned if a Muslim elected official were circulating the Islamic equivalent of this?

I mean, the Quran covers a lot of the same material, concerning the proper method of conducting Islamic warfare. In principle, I have nothing against distributing something like this, the relevant portions of the Quran, or The Prince, or whatever. If someone starts saying that we need to make this happen, then I'd get concerned.

You very much ducked the answer. To the extent you sort of answered not really, I call BS. You'd be rounding up your Opus Dei Brothers to form a posse as we speak.

Believe what you'd like, but I am not nor have I ever been particularly anti-Islam. I'm pretty ecumenical, all things considered. I find the right's portrayal of Islam overly general and not very charitable. I hold to the Catechism's view on Muslims:

"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." (some conservative Catholics really hate this paragraph of the Catechism, I'll point out)

Shea is an odd duck, for sure, but not very representative of Eastern Washington. To begin with, the area is not overly religious (although it is more religious than Western Washington) and certainly not a hotbed of dominionism. Yes, there is a white nationalist presence in Northern Idaho which creeps into Spokane, but it is a small minority which I've never come into contact with. The closest would be when I attended a Christian concert at a megachurch in Post Falls, Idaho and a few big-bearded guys walked out when the singer started talking about the plight of refugees. Perhaps KingSweden has encountered it in Spokane, but I've never really seen it there.

It is obvious from example that there are many good Muslims, many who recognize America as a haven for exercising an Islamic conscience and living an unimpeded Islamic way of life. Muslims recognize that they have the right to proselytize in America -- and many do.

It is clear that if Islam is imperfect to the Catholic Church because it is not Catholicism, it is no bar to a great reward in the Next Life. God is powerful enough to forgive misunderstandings of him. Contrast Nazism, which is pure evil, and Satanism, an unqualified rejection of every Abrahamic religion. For what Nazis did to fervently-Catholic members of the Polish intelligentsia alone, I expect the Catholic Church to condemn Nazism.  Then there is the Holocaust, about which little else need be said.

Humanity is imperfect. The 'Noble Savage' is a myth. By any standard except perhaps Satanism (which considers good people schmucks who deserve the worst  for not enjoying life at its vilest and most selfish) we all fall short in word, deed, and thought. If God is real, then we need mercy.  Maybe we simply get separated to the extent of our vices, perverts among perverts, drunks among drunks, thieves among thieves, cheats among cheats, killers among killers... but that is my opinion of how things would make most sense. Heaven is more diverse because diversity offers richness.

I want to go where Lincoln is and Hitler isn't. 
 

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

He sounds unhinged.

He sounds like an average Republican.

He does NOT sound like an average Republican.

He also does not sound like a Biblical Christian, either.  There is no basis for this sort of thing in Scripture in the New Testament.  None.  

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Sounds like a lot of the born again evangelical christiandom wants, at least in private.

As someone who hangs out in very conservative Evangelical circles (fundamentalist by Atlas standards, though I reject that label), I can assure you that this is not true.

[KingSweden]

I think it’s worth adding to this discussion that Shea’s anger problems are well documented - the man is nuts even beyond his “Biblical war” nonsense.

[NewYorkExpress]

He sounds unhinged.

He sounds like an average Republican.

He does NOT sound like an average Republican.

He also does not sound like a Biblical Christian, either.  There is no basis for this sort of thing in Scripture in the New Testament.  None.  

Apparently Shea has been reading more Old Testament than New Testament. God's depiction there is pretty much what he appears to be talking about when he says he wants to kill all nonbeliever's. Either that, or he's trying to apply the Koran to his own religion, which insults the intelligence of every Muslim on the planet, whether or not they are an extremist, and is probably the fastest way to create an extremist Muslim, outside of invading Saudi Arabia, and leaving troops there.

[Person Man]

Yeah. I am worried about the threat of religious extremists destroying our society and subjugating us into their empire, but they are already here.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

WA Republicans have ousted Shea as caucus chair.

So, uh, this nutcase got reelected?

[UncleSam]

Religion does weird things to a person. Spokane isn’t even a deep red area either.

Hope he resigns and we never hear from him again.

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

WA Republicans have ousted Shea as caucus chair.

So, uh, this nutcase got reelected?

Well they also elected former pimp and current dead guy Hof in NV, so...

[Person Man]

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Seems like perfectly normal, well-adjusted behavior to me tbh

IKR, a real man keeps his sword on the left so he can draw with his right. What a beta cuck

Unless he favors the devil's hand.