WV: 1952 State Auditor General Election Result

[LeRaposa]

New Election: 1952 West Virginia State Auditor General Election Results
   
   

[Antonio the Sixth]

Those sure were different times...

[DINGO Joe]

McDowell county cast almost twice as many votes as people it has today.  State as a whole cast about 200,000 more votes in 52 than 2016.

[IceSpear]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

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Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

Did the Willie Horton ad not air in WV?

[Intell]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

1988? 1984? 1968? 1964?. But sure ok. Are you just stupidly dense or what?

[IceSpear]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

1988? 1984? 1968? 1964?. But sure ok. Are you just stupidly dense or what?

I forgot part two: also before a black guy with a (D) next to his name was president.

[Intell]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

1988? 1984? 1968? 1964?. But sure ok. Are you just stupidly dense or what?

I forgot part two: also before a black guy with a (D) next to his name was president.

Douglas Wilder and Harold Ford Jr. It may not be WV but the places are exactly the same, and TN and SW VA swngs equally hard against Obama in 08'? Besides the poor and working class poor of WV voted for Obama, the first time around, so the rednecks voted for Obama, everyone else did not.

[ON Progressive]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

1988? 1984? 1968? 1964?. But sure ok. Are you just stupidly dense or what?

I forgot part two: also before a black guy with a (D) next to his name was president.

Douglas Wilder and Harold Ford Jr. It may not be WV but the places are exactly the same, and TN and SW VA swngs equally hard against Obama in 08'? Besides the poor and working class poor of WV voted for Obama, the first time around, so the rednecks voted for Obama, everyone else did not.

I’m sure all 20 people in WV that make 6 figures or better is why the state swung for the GOP compared to 2004 while the country as a whole swung 9 points towards the Democrats. Also, the biggest swings in the state against Obama absolutely weren’t in Southern WV, the poorest part of the state.

I’m also sure there is absolutely no reason why over 40% of the state voted for a felon in prison over Obama in the 2012 primary.

[IceSpear]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

1988? 1984? 1968? 1964?. But sure ok. Are you just stupidly dense or what?

I forgot part two: also before a black guy with a (D) next to his name was president.

Douglas Wilder and Harold Ford Jr. It may not be WV but the places are exactly the same, and TN and SW VA swngs equally hard against Obama in 08'? Besides the poor and working class poor of WV voted for Obama, the first time around, so the rednecks voted for Obama, everyone else did not.

I’m sure all 20 people in WV that make 6 figures or better is why the state swung for the GOP compared to 2004 while the country as a whole swung 9 points towards the Democrats. Also, the biggest swings in the state against Obama absolutely weren’t in Southern WV, the poorest part of the state.

I’m also sure there is absolutely no reason why over 40% of the state voted for a felon in prison over Obama in the 2012 primary.

I'm sure too!

[Politician]

Are people seriously ignoring that WV swung and trended Republican in 2000 and 2004? When Democrats nominated a white male? The state trended Republican because of Democrats' opposition to coal, not "racism".

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Are people seriously ignoring that WV swung and trended Republican in 2000 and 2004? When Democrats nominated a white male? The state trended Republican because of Democrats' opposition to coal, not "racism".

[Intell]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

1988? 1984? 1968? 1964?. But sure ok. Are you just stupidly dense or what?

I forgot part two: also before a black guy with a (D) next to his name was president.

Douglas Wilder and Harold Ford Jr. It may not be WV but the places are exactly the same, and TN and SW VA swngs equally hard against Obama in 08'? Besides the poor and working class poor of WV voted for Obama, the first time around, so the rednecks voted for Obama, everyone else did not.

I’m sure all 20 people in WV that make 6 figures or better is why the state swung for the GOP compared to 2004 while the country as a whole swung 9 points towards the Democrats. Also, the biggest swings in the state against Obama absolutely weren’t in Southern WV, the poorest part of the state.

I’m also sure there is absolutely no reason why over 40% of the state voted for a felon in prison over Obama in the 2012 primary.

I'm sure too!

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=236791.0

So the rednecks voted for Obama, got it ok.

Obama did badly in WV not because he was black, though racism played an aspect. When rascism played an aspect it was because he was considered "foreign" and "not American", not because he was black. WV swung hard against the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 as well, Obama further did worse because of what he represented.

 An emerging democratic coalition based on suburbanites, liberal professionals and black voters or a coalition based on working class people (Clinton). With working-class communities being ignored by Democrats since Clinton, the Obama victory for many WV democrats showed to them the party no longer cared for people like them.

Even with that, the poorest and working-class whites of the state still voted for Obama. The working class swung against Obama, but they still voted for him. The middle classes were so racist against Obama that they made WV a Republican state yes.  The rednecks and poorer whites have always voted more democratic than the more affluent whites (nationally and esp. statewide) in every election bar in 2016. A fact which you seem to ignore, even though you are a part of the WWC.

Also with 2012, the economy was ruined in coal country by 2012 and hence why you saw such strong swings away from him and against him in the primaries. Were the coal communities voting against Thatcher in the UK driven by sexism?

[IceSpear]

Are people seriously ignoring that WV swung and trended Republican in 2000 and 2004? When Democrats nominated a white male? The state trended Republican because of Democrats' opposition to coal, not "racism".

2000: Country has a big R swing, WV has a big R swing
2004: Country has a small R swing, WV has a moderate R swing
2008: Country has a massive D swing, WV has a small R swing, and the parts of the state most filled with Racist Hicks have a massive R swing

<insert thinking emoji here>

[MT Treasurer]

WV hates corporate/DLC-type/Third Way Democrats so much that they voted for people like Bill Clinton, Jay Rockefeller and Joe Manchin in landslides. Makes sense.

[ON Progressive]

Obama did badly in WV not because he was black, though racism played an aspect. When rascism played an aspect it was because he was considered "foreign" and "not American", not because he was black. WV swung hard against the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 as well, Obama further did worse because of what he represented.

I wonder why people would call a black man "foreign and un-American".

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No, they didn't. WV-03 voted more for McCain than the state as a whole, and that is the most poor and WWC part of the state.

[Intell]

Are people seriously ignoring that WV swung and trended Republican in 2000 and 2004? When Democrats nominated a white male? The state trended Republican because of Democrats' opposition to coal, not "racism".

2000: Country has a big R swing, WV has a big R swing
2004: Country has a small R swing, WV has a moderate R swing
2008: Country has a massive D swing, WV has a small R swing, and the parts of the state most filled with Racist Hicks have a massive R swing

<insert thinking emoji here>

2000:

WV:  21 points swing R,
Nation: 8% swing R

Trend: 13% R

2004

WV: 7% R
Nation: 3%R

Trend: +4% Swing R

Average Trend R (200&2004): 8.5% R

WV: 0.3%
Nation: -9.5%

Trend:  9.8%

So the trend was just 1% more than the average trends from the last two elections. Ok, WV's 1% more racist than other states?

The southern coalfields have the largest swings against Obama not because it is filled with racists hick but because a lot of those racists hicks happened to be democrats due to class politics than other parts of the state. See the southern coalfields had a much larger %vote for Obama than many of the solidly Republican counties that swung towards Obama

[Politician]

Are people seriously ignoring that WV swung and trended Republican in 2000 and 2004? When Democrats nominated a white male? The state trended Republican because of Democrats' opposition to coal, not "racism".

2000: Country has a big R swing, WV has a big R swing
2004: Country has a small R swing, WV has a moderate R swing
2008: Country has a massive D swing, WV has a small R swing, and the parts of the state most filled with Racist Hicks have a massive R swing

<insert thinking emoji here>

2000:

WV:  21 points swing R,
Nation: 8% swing R

Trend: 13% R

2004

WV: 7% R
Nation: 3%R

Trend: +4% Swing R

Average Trend R (200&2004): 8.5% R

WV: 0.3%
Nation: -9.5%

Trend:  9.8%

So the trend was just 1% more than the average trends from the last two elections. Ok, WV's 1% more racist than other states?

The southern coalfields have the largest swings against Obama not because it is filled with racists hick but because a lot of those racists hicks happened to be democrats due to class politics than other parts of the state. See the southern coalfields had a much larger %vote for Obama than many of the solidly Republican counties that swung towards Obama

Don't try to confuse him with facts.

[IceSpear]

WV hates corporate/DLC-type/Third Way Democrats so much that they voted for people like Bill Clinton, Jay Rockefeller and Joe Manchin in landslides. Makes sense.

Don't forget William Gaston Caperton III.

But yeah, they won't like Cory Booker because he's in bed with Big Pharma. That's the ONLY REASON! Let's just ignore that Joe Manchin's daughter is a literal Big Pharma CEO who massively hiked the prices of EpiPens.

[Intell]

Obama did badly in WV not because he was black, though racism played an aspect. When rascism played an aspect it was because he was considered "foreign" and "not American", not because he was black. WV swung hard against the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 as well, Obama further did worse because of what he represented.

I wonder why people would call a black man "foreign and un-American".

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No, they didn't. WV-03 voted more for McCain than the state as a whole, and that is the most poor and WWC part of the state.

Because of rascism, I never denied that but it wasn't just rascism it was rascism tied into xenophobia.

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[IceSpear]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

1988? 1984? 1968? 1964?. But sure ok. Are you just stupidly dense or what?

I forgot part two: also before a black guy with a (D) next to his name was president.

Douglas Wilder and Harold Ford Jr. It may not be WV but the places are exactly the same, and TN and SW VA swngs equally hard against Obama in 08'? Besides the poor and working class poor of WV voted for Obama, the first time around, so the rednecks voted for Obama, everyone else did not.

I’m sure all 20 people in WV that make 6 figures or better is why the state swung for the GOP compared to 2004 while the country as a whole swung 9 points towards the Democrats. Also, the biggest swings in the state against Obama absolutely weren’t in Southern WV, the poorest part of the state.

I’m also sure there is absolutely no reason why over 40% of the state voted for a felon in prison over Obama in the 2012 primary.

I'm sure too!

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=236791.0

So the rednecks voted for Obama, got it ok.

Obama did badly in WV not because he was black, though racism played an aspect. When rascism played an aspect it was because he was considered "foreign" and "not American", not because he was black. WV swung hard against the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 as well, Obama further did worse because of what he represented.

 An emerging democratic coalition based on suburbanites, liberal professionals and black voters or a coalition based on working class people (Clinton). With working-class communities being ignored by Democrats since Clinton, the Obama victory for many WV democrats showed to them the party no longer cared for people like them.

Even with that, the poorest and working-class whites of the state still voted for Obama. The working class swung against Obama, but they still voted for him. The middle classes were so racist against Obama that they made WV a Republican state yes.  The rednecks and poorer whites have always voted more democratic than the more affluent whites (nationally and esp. statewide) in every election bar in 2016. A fact which you seem to ignore, even though you are a part of the WWC.

Also with 2012, the economy was ruined in coal country by 2012 and hence why you saw such strong swings away from him and against him in the primaries. Were the coal communities voting against Thatcher in the UK driven by sexism?

They went from being heavily Democratic to split, as shua said in that thread. They became split because a black guy being the Democratic candidate caused a lot of them to flake off, and this problem continued to exacerbate the longer said black guy sat in the White House.

If you were voting Republican before 2008, there's plausible deniability that you weren't motivated by racism. If you only became a convert once the black guy was at the top of the Democratic ticket in what was otherwise a perfect storm for that party, the reasoning why is pretty obvious. Obama and Kerry were virtually identical on the issues as well as their candidate style (with the one difference being that Obama was a better orator and more "inspirational", which made him superior to Kerry.) They were both "out of touch coastal elitist far leftist environmentalists who hate coal." Yet there were legions of Kerry/McCain voters in the Southern part of the state. Go figure...

Two primary sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODaxZSz3Awg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wroj0FLvzs

[Intell]

Before Racist WV Hicks saw the Democratic Party as an anti-white hate group (also, coincidentally I'm sure, before the Civil Rights Act.) Ah, the memories.

1988? 1984? 1968? 1964?. But sure ok. Are you just stupidly dense or what?

I forgot part two: also before a black guy with a (D) next to his name was president.

Douglas Wilder and Harold Ford Jr. It may not be WV but the places are exactly the same, and TN and SW VA swngs equally hard against Obama in 08'? Besides the poor and working class poor of WV voted for Obama, the first time around, so the rednecks voted for Obama, everyone else did not.

I’m sure all 20 people in WV that make 6 figures or better is why the state swung for the GOP compared to 2004 while the country as a whole swung 9 points towards the Democrats. Also, the biggest swings in the state against Obama absolutely weren’t in Southern WV, the poorest part of the state.

I’m also sure there is absolutely no reason why over 40% of the state voted for a felon in prison over Obama in the 2012 primary.

I'm sure too!

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=236791.0

So the rednecks voted for Obama, got it ok.

Obama did badly in WV not because he was black, though racism played an aspect. When rascism played an aspect it was because he was considered "foreign" and "not American", not because he was black. WV swung hard against the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 as well, Obama further did worse because of what he represented.

 An emerging democratic coalition based on suburbanites, liberal professionals and black voters or a coalition based on working class people (Clinton). With working-class communities being ignored by Democrats since Clinton, the Obama victory for many WV democrats showed to them the party no longer cared for people like them.

Even with that, the poorest and working-class whites of the state still voted for Obama. The working class swung against Obama, but they still voted for him. The middle classes were so racist against Obama that they made WV a Republican state yes.  The rednecks and poorer whites have always voted more democratic than the more affluent whites (nationally and esp. statewide) in every election bar in 2016. A fact which you seem to ignore, even though you are a part of the WWC.

Also with 2012, the economy was ruined in coal country by 2012 and hence why you saw such strong swings away from him and against him in the primaries. Were the coal communities voting against Thatcher in the UK driven by sexism?

They went from being heavily Democratic to split, as shua said in that thread. They became split because a black guy being the Democratic candidate caused a lot of them to flake off, and this problem continued to exacerbate the longer said black guy sat in the White House.

If you were voting Republican before 2008, there's plausible deniability that you weren't motivated by racism. If you only became a convert once the black guy was at the top of the Democratic ticket in what was otherwise a perfect storm for that party, the reasoning why is pretty obvious. Obama and Kerry were virtually identical on the issues as well as their candidate style (with the one difference being that Obama was a better orator and more "inspirational", which made him superior to Kerry.) They were both "out of touch coastal elitist far leftist environmentalists who hate coal." Yet there were legions of Kerry/McCain voters in the Southern part of the state. Go figure...

Two primary sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODaxZSz3Awg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wroj0FLvzs

All parts are WV are equally racist, as are all classes. The reason that the southern parts swung more to Republicans was that there were more racists democrats, not because that part of the state is more racist.

Also people that swung against Obama after voting for him in 08' are not driven by racism, the economy was in utter ruin after 2009 in southern WV that's your reason for the large swings. I'm not saying you can't be a racist Obama voter. There are many racist Obama -> Trump voters, but the racial sentiment would not be the reason you swing against Obama in 2012. This can be seen from the fact that non-coal counties that swung hard against Obama in 08' did not in 12' and then swung against the Democrats in 16'.

I'm not saying there are not WWC racist voters, I'm just saying there are equal amounts of racist voters of all classes, and it turns out, even if you have a black guy on the ticket, the WWC are more likely to vote for the democrat than the *enlightened* middle class. They are also more likely to vote for the anti-racist party than whites that are more affluent even if they may be equally as rascist.

Those in WV making 50K or above have long voted Republican on the presidential level, haven't they?

The difference is that low income voters moved from solid D to split, especially in a shift in the Coal region of the South. This shift which began before Obama, but accelerated in 2012.

Also, as can be determined from the exit poll, lower income voters do not vote at nearly as high a rate as mid-high income voters in WV.  A few decades ago, voting from this demographic was much more common.

I agree with this quote. What I stated do not contradict my statements. Low-Income white voters, however, did vote for Obama once (2008). I did not state that the swings against Obama, part of the reason was race. I just stated that there are other factors other than race to consider.

All I wanted to refute was the absurd claim t that somehow the poors are more racist that the "enlightened" and contradict the claim that the "enlightened" are more likely to vote for the "enlightened" party.

[Intell]

WV hates corporate/DLC-type/Third Way Democrats so much that they voted for people like Bill Clinton, Jay Rockefeller and Joe Manchin in landslides. Makes sense.

Don't forget William Gaston Caperton III.

But yeah, they won't like Cory Booker because he's in bed with Big Pharma. That's the ONLY REASON! Let's just ignore that Joe Manchin's daughter is a literal Big Pharma CEO who massively hiked the prices of EpiPens.

People totally vote on policy and not platitudes and who says nice things about people like them: . Those conservative Democrats won for various reasons. Bill Clinton and Caperton won when the democratic party remain dominant. Caperton actually faced a challenge in the primaries (Pritt) for being third way, and was unpopular in unionised households.

Rockefeller was not even third way and Manchin has a persona of "I'm for the little guy while screwing the little guy over". I mean voters only remember about policies of the presidency, and Clinton's actions (welfare reform, NAFTA, not supporting miners etc) as president, did lead to an alienation against democrats within working class communities. Hence the depressed turnout from 96' onwards and harsh swings against Gore in many working-class communities. Third-way politics not just in the US but across the world destroyed many left-wing parties and resulted in the rise of right-wing populism/far-right wing movements.