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« Reply #100 on: October 08, 2018, 11:07:16 AM »

People (male gamers) just wanted to play some damn games where male fantasies were explored of blowing crap up, being a gangster, hitting up attractive women, etc etc...all without hurting anyone in real life or endangering themselves.

It's stress relief from a mundane world of a daily grind in the warehouse or shop.  Then some uppity pink-haired people decided somehow the far-right Christians were right and this outlet was bad, and attacking the people playing these games was a sure way to get some morality points.

I was on Shacknews a lot on before #gamergate and many people left the site including myself because they kowtowed to SJWs.   That's when I could really define myself as no longer having much left to identify with this new political left. 

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« Reply #101 on: October 08, 2018, 11:15:44 AM »

People (male gamers) just wanted to play some damn games where male fantasies were explored of blowing crap up, being a gangster, hitting up attractive women, etc etc...all without hurting anyone in real life or endangering themselves.

It's stress relief from a mundane world of a daily grind in the warehouse or shop.  Then some uppity pink-haired people decided somehow the far-right Christians were right and this outlet was bad, and attacking the people playing these games was a sure way to get some morality points.

I was on Shacknews a lot on before #gamergate and many people left the site including myself because they kowtowed to SJWs.   That's when I could really define myself as no longer having much left to identify with this new political left. 



They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a sh**tty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
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« Reply #102 on: October 08, 2018, 11:19:44 AM »

I don't think anyone would deny the role of alt-right folks in both GamerGate and the election of Trump.

However, the issue I take with your argument is that you blame "SJWs" for the creation of GamerGate and thus the alt-right. Those people already existed. That kind of behavior was going on long before GamerGate. GamerGate was just one of the times that it actually gained notable attention in the media at large.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-16-fan-harassed-writer-jennifer-hepler-leaves-bioware

That's just one example. There's tons of others but since there are so many, it's hard for me to think of specific examples prior to GamerGate. Jerks getting together in large enough groups to harass those that they disagree with is nothing new. Twitter makes it particularly easy because of its nature, but it happened on forums and the like before Twitter existed.

"SJWs" are not to blame for the creation of the alt-right. People who would love the alt-right have always existed, and thanks to the internet, it is easy for them to find each other and for the more politically active folks to encourage those who think similarly to get involved, as is the case with any close-knit community. The alt-right, completely, totally, for sure had a role in electing Trump, but it wasn't because they were "triggered," it was because they were "turned on" to voting by other folks in places where they were congregating. It bleeds over from that into radicalization in some circumstances.

That's what people were giving you crap about, as far as I can tell, not that GamerGaters became part of the alt-right and that the alt-right was important to Trump's election.
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