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« on: September 28, 2005, 11:22:24 PM »

I know it sounds BRTDish, but I wonder how they would vote.  I mean the last several election cycles have been mainly attempts to win over suburbs mainly because the partys know the stereotypical county=GOP, city=Dems.  Would doing away with the suburban vote throw the country into electoral chaos or would it still be 50-50?
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2005, 02:01:18 AM »



My oh my...269-269.

(NE-2 might be a stretch - I'm not sure how urban Omaha votes, but it would be close.  That is, if NE-2 is what I think it is and I'm not dumb, which I probably am.)
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2005, 04:02:13 AM »

Define "suburb"
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2005, 07:07:41 AM »

The whole party system would be different. Grin
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2005, 10:05:33 PM »



My oh my...269-269.

(NE-2 might be a stretch - I'm not sure how urban Omaha votes, but it would be close.  That is, if NE-2 is what I think it is and I'm not dumb, which I probably am.)

Why do you think Washington would go Republican?

Eastern Washington, including the suburbs of Spokane and the Tri-Cities, went to Bush by a margin of about 118,000 votes. The City of Seattle alone went to Kerry by 200,000 votes, cancelling out all of Eastern Washington. That leaves Western Washington. So lets say Bellingham, Everett, Seattle, Tacoma, and Olympia are "cities," all of which voted about 60-70% Democrat.

The rest of non-suburban Western Washington is probably split pretty equally.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2005, 12:00:04 AM »



My oh my...269-269.

(NE-2 might be a stretch - I'm not sure how urban Omaha votes, but it would be close.  That is, if NE-2 is what I think it is and I'm not dumb, which I probably am.)

Why do you think Washington would go Republican?

Eastern Washington, including the suburbs of Spokane and the Tri-Cities, went to Bush by a margin of about 118,000 votes. The City of Seattle alone went to Kerry by 200,000 votes, cancelling out all of Eastern Washington. That leaves Western Washington. So lets say Bellingham, Everett, Seattle, Tacoma, and Olympia are "cities," all of which voted about 60-70% Democrat.

The rest of non-suburban Western Washington is probably split pretty equally.

It depends on your definition of "suburb."

Seattle especially, but all major cities in Washington, have suburbs within their incorporated bounds - and except for Spokane - they are generally Democratic.

I was doing it with a certain definition, but I guess it all depends on definitions.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2005, 12:25:23 AM »

well, I was vague in mentioning suburb.  It's a good map nonetheless Alcon.  Was wondering on an only city v. country level people would vote, since suburbs are the campaign hotspots and since a majority of people live in suburbs.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2005, 10:19:50 PM »

Yes good point MaC.  PA would be solid GOP without the suburbs.  You taking notes BRTD?
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2005, 10:11:46 PM »

I know it sounds BRTDish, but I wonder how they would vote.  I mean the last several election cycles have been mainly attempts to win over suburbs mainly because the partys know the stereotypical county=GOP, city=Dems.  Would doing away with the suburban vote throw the country into electoral chaos or would it still be 50-50?

I'm not certain of this, but I'm pretty sure the Democrats won the nonsuburban vote in every presidential election of my lifetime, with the exception of 1984.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2005, 08:17:37 PM »

I know it sounds BRTDish, but I wonder how they would vote.  I mean the last several election cycles have been mainly attempts to win over suburbs mainly because the partys know the stereotypical county=GOP, city=Dems.  Would doing away with the suburban vote throw the country into electoral chaos or would it still be 50-50?

I'm not certain of this, but I'm pretty sure the Democrats won the nonsuburban vote in every presidential election of my lifetime, with the exception of 1984.

Nonsuburban meaning urban or urban and rural?
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2005, 08:57:21 PM »

Nonsuburban meaning urban or urban and rural?

It means urban and rural together.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2005, 09:00:49 PM »

Nonsuburban meaning urban or urban and rural?

It means urban and rural together.

Does exurban count?
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2005, 09:44:55 PM »


Exurban counts as suburban, and barely even existed until the mid-'90s anyway.
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