Good guy FFs Antifa attack journalists and cops

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And if you seriously don't think the radical left played a role in the popularity of white nationalist groups in today's headlines, you need to get out from that rock you've been living under. For example, had they not gotten involved and escalated things like they did in Charlottesville, sh*t would not have hit the fan like it did, the many injured folks would not have been injured, and Heather Heyer would likely still be alive. This by no means excuses the scumbag Nazis, or the subhuman scum that killed the girl, they are obviously terrible and deserve to be recognized as terrible, but to condemn one side while making the people responsible for escalating the situation out to be good guys is truly what is stupid.  

Uh, what? The only explanation for this line is that you're having to warp reality to fit your preconceived dislike of Antia, since the alt-right has declined after Charlottesville: see the pathetic turnout for this second 'Unite the Right' rally. If there were no counterprotests, including one of them being murdered and the ensuing negative media coverage, then their rallies would have gotten larger. By any metric Antifa's tactics have worked. Richard Spencer has admitted as much.

The highlighted portion is, indeed, good news.

My question is why so many here want it both ways?  I can't begin to count all the times people post here that the alt-right is gaining, that they're increasing in numbers, that they're taking over the GOP at all levels, that they've become "mainstream" while we were sleeping, etc.  You know what I'm talking about.

So is the alt-right growing, or is it not?  If it's not growing, then let's at least stop blaming Trump for growing the alt-right.  That would be one step toward intellectual honesty.

[dead0man]

Aye, I'm pretty sure the American left was more disspointed by the low turnout than whatever stupidly named organization set up the march.  Kind of hard to make a "boogeyman" out of 20 fat guys.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

I'm also just saying a little bit of disciplining would go a long way to keep kids like you from thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable. There's a difference between disciplining a child and abusing one.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Id love to see how'd you react if those things thrown at you, Mr. Tough Guy.

You have a lot of nerve.
Sanchez admitted that he went to a trump rally (pre-election) and viciously abused the Press Corps table and gave the journalists middle fingers and/or bombs of curse words (right to their face).

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Id love to see how'd you react if those things thrown at you, Mr. Tough Guy.

You have a lot of nerve.
Sanchez admitted that he went to a trump rally (pre-election) and viciously abused the Press Corps table and gave the journalists middle fingers and/or bombs of curse words (right to their face).

Seriously? That’s hilarious

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Id love to see how'd you react if those things thrown at you, Mr. Tough Guy.

You have a lot of nerve.
Sanchez admitted that he went to a trump rally (pre-election) and viciously abused the Press Corps table and gave the journalists middle fingers and/or bombs of curse words (right to their face).

Seriously? That’s hilarious

lol flipping off the CNN crew = violence and intimidation. No wonder ProudModerate2 is afraid to go outside.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Id love to see how'd you react if those things thrown at you, Mr. Tough Guy.

You have a lot of nerve.
Sanchez admitted that he went to a trump rally (pre-election) and viciously abused the Press Corps table and gave the journalists middle fingers and/or bombs of curse words (right to their face).

Seriously? That’s hilarious

lol flipping off the CNN crew = violence and intimidation. No wonder ProudModerate2 is afraid to go outside.

These times are teaching me the difference between people who are "liberal" and people who are "leftist".

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Id love to see how'd you react if those things thrown at you, Mr. Tough Guy.

You have a lot of nerve.
Sanchez admitted that he went to a trump rally (pre-election) and viciously abused the Press Corps table and gave the journalists middle fingers and/or bombs of curse words (right to their face).

Seriously? That’s hilarious

Oh yeah there were like fifty of us. Some were holding their signs up high to block the cameras. The journalists sat behind the camera stage when off the air and seemed completely unphased, because obviously nobody was going to get hurt. Brian Stelter's just a big crybaby who can't handle criticism.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Id love to see how'd you react if those things thrown at you, Mr. Tough Guy.

You have a lot of nerve.
Sanchez admitted that he went to a trump rally (pre-election) and viciously abused the Press Corps table and gave the journalists middle fingers and/or bombs of curse words (right to their face).

Seriously? That’s hilarious

Oh yeah there were like fifty of us. Some were holding their signs up high to block the cameras. The journalists sat behind the camera stage when off the air and seemed completely unphased, because obviously nobody was going to get hurt. Brian Stelter's just a big crybaby who can't handle criticism.

When the person who throws an egg at me ends up in jail, he'll find out what a big deal it is.  When I show up at his trial to speak at sentencing, he'll get a refresher course on that point.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Id love to see how'd you react if those things thrown at you, Mr. Tough Guy.

I'm not a cop, but good try.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

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I'm not getting outraged about throwing eggs when white supremacists commit hate crimes all the goddamn time. They killed 18 people (to antifa's zero) in 2017. A few eggs targeted specifically at cops (and not necessarily from the majority of the antifa members, we don't exactly have a play by play of the incident) during a protest isn't worth outrage over considering what time period we're in.

Scarlet, I get that you're in a fragile phase of your life. I do. But try having an alcoholic (well, formerly) mother, a brother who you worry about daily due to heroin addiction, and another severely disabled brother who frankly needs help just to bathe. Now imagine that youngest brother being forcibly removed from his home by the state and put into a group home because he threw a tantrum at school and kicked his teacher so hard that she needed a neck brace.

That teacher, by the way, regularly calls my mom to check in about him. I can't mention her without noting how much of a saint she is.

Long story short, Scarlet, is that you're young - too young to be this afraid of the world. Life is hard. Life is difficult. People sometimes die young for no good reason. My advice to you is harsh but from a heart that, believe it or not, bears no malice against you: put on your big girl panties and join the rest of us in a world that, yes, can be cruel sometimes, but is still a thousand times better than what our forefathers had.

Being called "a little sh-t" is not abuse and doesn't hold a candle to, say, loosing a parent. What posters like Cathcon, or Jacobin, or Fuzzy or Scott have been through in their time is a lot worse than being called a no-no word. You (and Hillgoose for that matter) are simply too young to recognize this. You're gonna need to develop thicker skin and realize that "emotional violence" or whatever the hell they call it now is an engrained part of life. You, as a transperson, especially will have difficulties here and there along the way, but if you let them restrain your spirit, you only have yourself to blame.

You don't win by simply banning or tying down anything that offends you. You win by making your detractors powerless to stop you, by bouncing off whatever life throws at you instead of burying your head in the sand, or worse, by absorbing it.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Id love to see how'd you react if those things thrown at you, Mr. Tough Guy.

I'm not a cop, but good try.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

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I'm not getting outraged about throwing eggs when white supremacists commit hate crimes all the goddamn time. They killed 18 people (to antifa's zero) in 2017. A few eggs targeted specifically at cops (and not necessarily from the majority of the antifa members, we don't exactly have a play by play of the incident) during a protest isn't worth outrage over considering what time period we're in.

Scarlet, I get that you're in a fragile phase of your life. I do. But try having an alcoholic (well, formerly) mother, a brother who you worry about daily due to heroin addiction, and another severely disabled brother who frankly needs help just to bathe. Now imagine that youngest brother being forcibly removed from his home by the state and put into a group home because he threw a tantrum at school and kicked his teacher so hard that she needed a neck brace.

That teacher, by the way, regularly calls my mom to check in about him. I can't mention her without noting how much of a saint she is.

Long story short, Scarlet, is that you're young - too young to be this afraid of the world. Life is hard. Life is difficult. People sometimes die young for no good reason. My advice to you is harsh but from a heart that, believe it or not, bears no malice against you: put on your big girl panties and join the rest of us in a world that, yes, can be cruel sometimes, but is still a thousand times better than what our forefathers had.

Being called "a little sh-t" is not abuse and doesn't hold a candle to, say, loosing a parent. What posters like Cathcon, or Jacobin, or Fuzzy or Scott have been through in their time is a lot worse than being called a no-no word. You (and Hillgoose for that matter) are simply too young to recognize this. You're gonna need to develop thicker skin and realize that "emotional violence" or whatever the hell they call it now is an engrained part of life. You, as a transperson, especially will have difficulties here and there along the way, but if you let them restrain your spirit, you only have yourself to blame.

You don't win by simply banning or tying down anything that offends you. You win by making your detractors powerless to stop you, by bouncing off whatever life throws at you instead of burying your head in the sand, or worse, by absorbing it.

You don't know much of anything about my life, so please cool it with the armchair advice.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

I'm also just saying a little bit of disciplining would go a long way to keep kids like you from thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable. There's a difference between disciplining a child and abusing one.

And what is "discipline" pray tell?

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

I'm also just saying a little bit of disciplining would go a long way to keep kids like you from thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable. There's a difference between disciplining a child and abusing one.

And what is "discipline" pray tell?

Using your previously used terrible definitions, things like spanking and being called a "little sh*t" certainly ain't abuse, especially if the kid is doing something to deserve it.

I suggest looking at real cases of abused children, and the things they go through, before crying abuse over small things.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

I'm also just saying a little bit of disciplining would go a long way to keep kids like you from thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable. There's a difference between disciplining a child and abusing one.

And what is "discipline" pray tell?

Using your previously used terrible definitions, things like spanking and being called a "little sh*t" certainly ain't abuse, especially if the kid is doing something to deserve it.

I suggest looking at real cases of abused children, and the things they go through, before crying abuse over small things.

How about not using "real" abused children as a football to attack me? You don't know my life.

[Person Man]

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

I'm also just saying a little bit of disciplining would go a long way to keep kids like you from thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable. There's a difference between disciplining a child and abusing one.

And what is "discipline" pray tell?

Using your previously used terrible definitions, things like spanking and being called a "little sh*t" certainly ain't abuse, especially if the kid is doing something to deserve it.

I suggest looking at real cases of abused children, and the things they go through, before crying abuse over small things.

How about not using "real" abused children as a football to attack me? You don't know my life.

Who do you think would win a fist fight between these two. Would anyone be going to the ER afterwards?

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

I'm also just saying a little bit of disciplining would go a long way to keep kids like you from thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable. There's a difference between disciplining a child and abusing one.

And what is "discipline" pray tell?

Using your previously used terrible definitions, things like spanking and being called a "little sh*t" certainly ain't abuse, especially if the kid is doing something to deserve it.

I suggest looking at real cases of abused children, and the things they go through, before crying abuse over small things.

How about not using "real" abused children as a football to attack me? You don't know my life.

Dude go read the thread by LeftistNationalist and then tell me that you're "abused" too. I mean Jesus Christ, seriously.

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

I'm also just saying a little bit of disciplining would go a long way to keep kids like you from thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable. There's a difference between disciplining a child and abusing one.

And what is "discipline" pray tell?

Using your previously used terrible definitions, things like spanking and being called a "little sh*t" certainly ain't abuse, especially if the kid is doing something to deserve it.

I suggest looking at real cases of abused children, and the things they go through, before crying abuse over small things.

How about not using "real" abused children as a football to attack me? You don't know my life.

Dude go read the thread by LeftistNationalist and then tell me that you're "abused" too. I mean Jesus Christ, seriously.

You're totally right. People should be ashamed of having feelings!

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Batting away and covering cameras is not attacking journalists under any reasonable definition. Its honesyly a little disconserting that journalists seem to think that being stopped from filming people via a freaking hand on a camera is literally attacking the journalists themselves.

And throwing eggs and s**t isn't a big deal tbh.

Leave it to some poorly disciplined, bratty kid to think it "isn't a big deal tbh".

You honestly think I'd be better if I'd been beat up/more severely verbally abused by my parents? What a nice person.

I'm also just saying a little bit of disciplining would go a long way to keep kids like you from thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable. There's a difference between disciplining a child and abusing one.

And what is "discipline" pray tell?

Using your previously used terrible definitions, things like spanking and being called a "little sh*t" certainly ain't abuse, especially if the kid is doing something to deserve it.

I suggest looking at real cases of abused children, and the things they go through, before crying abuse over small things.

How about not using "real" abused children as a football to attack me? You don't know my life.

Dude go read the thread by LeftistNationalist and then tell me that you're "abused" too. I mean Jesus Christ, seriously.

You're totally right. People should be ashamed of having feelings!

People shouldn't be ashamed about their feelings, and shouldn't be unwilling to express them in a constructive manner.  But feelings aren't facts and emotional reasoning is one of the most destructive forces in life. 

I've been screwed over in life in ways that can't be made up for.  My life is that much less because of those disappointments, and some were truly unjust.  I've had to talk about that and vent my anger and frustration.  There is a point, however, where I've had to decide to deal with the fact that they won and I lost and consider the loss a gift of sorts.  A certain amount of my angst is being a slow learner on that score.