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« on: May 05, 2018, 11:31:59 AM »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44013763

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Up to 57,000 people could be forced to leave the US by 5 January 2020, when their temporary protected status (TPS) will be revoked.

Honduras's government said it "profoundly regrets" the end of the programme. The country's ambassador to the US, Marlon Tabora, said the country could not handle repatriating tens of thousands of people, Reuters news agency reports.

The Trump administration previously announced plans to cancel TPS for immigrants from Haiti and El Salvador, which they had been given after natural disasters in those countries.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2018, 02:09:19 PM »

Yet another cruel anti-immigrant move by our Immigrant-Basher-in-Chief.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2018, 02:10:51 PM »

Another step on the road to fascism.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2018, 02:16:33 PM »

Guys, these folks were given temporary sanctuary here in 1999

Temporary has a definition and it isn’t 20 years
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2018, 02:42:36 PM »

Guys, these folks were given temporary sanctuary here in 1999

Temporary has a definition and it isn’t 20 years

I very much agree with the above principle. 

The problem is that two (2) separate Administrations (Bush 43 and Obama) gave these folks, permanent residency sub silentio.  Without expressly saying so.  They should have been repatriated long ago, but they weren't, and now, many have kids who are citizens, and many are folks brought here young that know nothing else but life in America.

We ought to allow these folks to stay.  We ought to actively work to assimilate them into American life, and provide them all (except the criminals and documented gang members) with pathways to citizenship.  If folks are angry at someone over this, let them trash Bush 43 and Obama, but 19 years in America legally become something that's "on us". 

And we ought to not do such a thing again.  Temporary needs to mean temporary.  If we're going to help folks, and it's in America's interest to do so, let's help them where they're at. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2018, 02:47:21 PM »

Guys, these folks were given temporary sanctuary here in 1999

Temporary has a definition and it isn’t 20 years

I very much agree with the above principle. 

The problem is that two (2) separate Administrations (Bush 43 and Obama) gave these folks, permanent residency sub silentio.  Without expressly saying so.  They should have been repatriated long ago, but they weren't, and now, many have kids who are citizens, and many are folks brought here young that know nothing else but life in America.

We ought to allow these folks to stay.  We ought to actively work to assimilate them into American life, and provide them all (except the criminals and documented gang members) with pathways to citizenship.  If folks are angry at someone over this, let them trash Bush 43 and Obama, but 19 years in America legally become something that's "on us". 

And we ought to not do such a thing again.  Temporary needs to mean temporary.  If we're going to help folks, and it's in America's interest to do so, let's help them where they're at. 

I feel like we shouldn't be giving people temporary sanctuary or visas in the first place. While many people who get these probably intend on going back, a lot of them start to get used to their life in America and don't always want to go back. It's pretty weird to make people have to leave after they've been here in the US for the past 20 year, and just goes to show how this "temporary" status doesn't work too well.

I don't really have any issues with these immigrants... I just think we should either be giving them permanent residence or no residence at all.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2018, 03:47:28 PM »

Why doesn't Honduras want to accept its best back?
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2018, 03:51:23 PM »

Does TPS preclude participants from ever receiving any kind of formal work or student visas, or even green cards? Sounds like a program in serious need of reform if it doesn’t.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2018, 03:59:29 PM »

Why doesn't Honduras want to accept its best back?

Because the source of repatriated income is a major Boon to their economy. Nice try though
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2018, 04:29:19 PM »

Guys, these folks were given temporary sanctuary here in 1999

Temporary has a definition and it isn’t 20 years
Because the gang violence, death squads, and other life-threatening conditions that led to the initial temporary Grant still exist even more strongly today. The grain of Asylum should be no less temporary than the problems underline said Grant.

If they have been here for 20 years without problems, and anyone engaged in criminal activity in the meantime would have lost this grant, when they are by all accounts short of a single piece of paper, Americans?

Oh yeah, beaners who vote Democrat. Got to get rid of those bastards quick. Especially before they breed and flip even more of the country blue. Nowadays. Racism and naked electoral politics
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2018, 06:40:14 PM »

Good. This is the sort of thing Trump voters wanted. Fulfilling electoral promises is important.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2018, 11:16:45 AM »

Why doesn't Honduras want to accept its best back?

Man Honduras is such a hell-hole, I wonder whose fault that is.

*Reads about CIA actions in Central America for the past 50 years*

Ooh. OOOOOOH...
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2018, 11:31:18 AM »

They should be allowed to stay, it's a bad move.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2018, 08:31:53 PM »

Good. This is the sort of thing Drumpf voters wanted. Fulfilling electoral promises is important.

So when is he going to drain the swamp? Where is the wall? When will Mexico pay for it? What happened to supporting term limits for Congress? Why isn't Hillary Clinton locked up? When will he start hiring "the best people?" Why isn't he protecting Medicare and Social Security? Where is his better alternative to to the ACA? He can blame whoever he wants for not having accomplished these things, but it is fantasy to think that he has fulfilled most of his campaign promises or even has the ability to do so. Of course, I don't think his devotees actually care either way.
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2018, 05:03:46 PM »

Guys, these folks were given temporary sanctuary here in 1999

Temporary has a definition and it isn’t 20 years
Because the gang violence, death squads, and other life-threatening conditions that led to the initial temporary Grant still exist even more strongly today. The grain of Asylum should be no less temporary than the problems underline said Grant.

The original grant of TPS was due to damage caused by a hurricane in 1998.
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